BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Just Sayin wrote:
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It has everything to do with anything that has been changed on the document.
Sorry, loser.

That is the date that Hawaii started using the then new Certification of Live Birth form. Do you think everyone who received a BC in the last ten years has an altered BC?

UR nuts.

Pathetic.

BTW, it has the same data, born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961, as does the correspondence from USCIS in the 1960s. So what was altered in your altered universe?

[QUOTE who"Justus Liebig"]
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Did JS just hurt his head when he fell off the turnip truck?
The "revised date" has nothing to do with the date of birth registration.
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You seem to know a lot about the subject for not living it. But then I suppose you only pay attention to what will help Obama's case.
Aren't you concerned that he is turning this country into a third world dictatorship? Are you an American citizen who is accustomed to the freedoms this country has enjoyed?
This is why foreigners come to this country. They have heard about it's freedoms and the American Dream.
Here Poppo. Just an example of what is happening in America.
FBI unit to spy on all communications, including skype onversations
Steve Watson
Infowars.com
May 24, 2012
As if the government were not engaging in enough surveillance of law abiding Americans already, two major developments just ensured that the snooping will increase exponentially.
Firstly, the FBI is about to launch a huge new surveillance unit that will have the ability to monitor all internet and wireless communications, including internet Skype conversations.
http://www.infowars.com/mass-government-surve...
Obama is not turning this country into a third world anything. It’s all a birfoon delusion. Obama has done a fine job given the hand he was dealt and I will have no problem voting for him again. Many in this country may have short memories of whose policies that got us into to this mess, but I am not one of them. Further, if you’re so worried about government surveillance you should have bitched when Bush introduced the patriot act. Of course you can still get rid of your computer, smart phone and home phone.

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Show us your intelligence Poopoo stain.
1. Why doesn't Obama's long form birth certificate contain that all important embossed raised visible seal that makes it an authentic Hawaii DOH issued document?
2. Why don't you explain why the registrar's signature stamp can be moved on a document that was allegedly only scanned, and why the document has at least 9 layers of information instead of 1?
You possess the intelligence to answer these questions, right?
Nah, I think you will continue your run.
I don’t need to explain anything; it’s you who says the BC does not have a seal. Prove it!

Until then you make me laugh long time GB.
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Obama is not turning this country into a third world anything. It’s all a birfoon delusion. Obama has done a fine job given the hand he was dealt and I will have no problem voting for him again. Many in this country may have short memories of whose policies that got us into to this mess, but I am not one of them. Further, if you’re so worried about government surveillance you should have bitched when Bush introduced the patriot act. Of course you can still get rid of your computer, smart phone and home phone.
Yes I know Bush introduced the Patriot Act and I didn't like him either but one of the promises of Obama was to get rid of the Patriot Act and I am still waiting.

Whenever a federal government starts mandating that main street give their money to Wall Street (Obamacare) it is time to stop the music.

His bailouts of Wall Street and Auto Companies with taxpayer money is not helping the people who are now homeless due to the housing bubble which was caused by the very same people he bailed out.

GM is now laying off those people that were hired to build the Volt because people aren't buying them because they don't have money to buy them.

Our soldiers are still fighting and getting killed, but Obama gave them the impression he would end the wars.

Where is your head at Poppo?

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Trump Plans Anti-Obama Super PAC
Thursday, May 24, 2012

Sick and tired of the United States looking like a “third world country” and outsiders coming here to “suck the blood out of this country,” quirky developer and TV personality Donald Trump is eyeing a new super PAC to help defeat President Obama.

Presumably, the super PAC would also act to help Mitt Romney, who Trump has endorsed. Money shouldnÂ’t be an issue for the wealthy casino, golf course, resort and real estate developer. And neither should public relations, since Trump is a one-man publicity hound who even toyed with a presidential bid last year.

In an interview with Newsmax TV, Trump voiced anger at OPEC for seeking more than they deserve for oil, and Obama for letting infrastructure fade. But he also expressed high hopes that the nation could turn around, based on tapping home-grown energy sources.
Trump ? Obama made him look STUPID last year . Trump is not in the same league ad Obama ! I hope Trump helps Romney , it would add voters to Obama's campaign ! Can you imagine , Dee Schneider , Meatloaf , Gary Busey , Trump campaigning.! Ha Ha Ha !
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"The Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate,"
The Hawaii Revised Statutes certainly do.
§338-13 Certified copies.(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol0...
State law NEVER changed despite Hawaii DOH's LIE about policy changes being made.
I was quoting one of Poppo's sources in that post. He is constantly trying to give me misinformation from one of his Obotabot sources.

This is what the law suit is about over the dead twin who was born on Aug 4, 1961. The dead twins brother is suing the Hawaii DOH for his twins birth certificate and they won't give it to him.

I wonder why.

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<quoted text>Newspapers announce all births reported to them by Hawaii DOH regardless of whether they are hospital births or home births reported to Hawaii DOH.

Newspaper announcements in no way prove a Hawaiian birth alone.

Of course, a Hawaiian birth is not bolstered by a fraudulent birth certificate that is unstamped with an official State seal of authenticity, and has a registrar's stamp contained in one of the numerous layers that can be moved around on the document when the document was supposedly only scanned.
That document was a built document and is a fraudulent document.
I AGREE ! OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII !
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wojar wrote:
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Sorry, loser.
That is the date that Hawaii started using the then new Certification of Live Birth form. Do you think everyone who received a BC in the last ten years has an altered BC?
UR nuts.
Pathetic.
BTW, it has the same data, born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961, as does the correspondence from USCIS in the 1960s. So what was altered in your altered universe?
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Explain this. And watch closely. I know it takes you a while for things to sink in. Keep your mouse on the stop button for difficult areas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Grand Birther wrote:
<quoted text>Newspapers announce all births reported to them by Hawaii DOH regardless of whether they are hospital births or home births reported to Hawaii DOH.

Newspaper announcements in no way prove a Hawaiian birth alone.

Of course, a Hawaiian birth is not bolstered by a fraudulent birth certificate that is unstamped with an official State seal of authenticity, and has a registrar's stamp contained in one of the numerous layers that can be moved around on the document when the document was supposedly only scanned.
That document was a built document and is a fraudulent document.
I AGREE . OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII !

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Pants on fire!!!!
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof,
and to certify to the correctness of such copies.
Sorry Birffon, the relevant governing regulation pursuant to statute:

Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy (1) A certified copy may be issued to any person authorized to receive a standard certified copy.

That means, BirfoonBoy, that DOH is perfectly entitled to issue a computer generated certified BC rather than a photocopy of the original.

Sorreeeeeeeeeeee!

Duncan Sunahara was given exactly what he was entitled to receive, birfoon moaning and wailing notwithstanding.
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Birthers get SMACKED once again......
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I don’t need to explain anything; it’s you who says the BC does not have a seal. Prove it!
Until then you make me laugh long time GB.
The first BC Obama released did not have a seal on it then all of a sudden they came out with a different BC with a seal.

They make me laugh long time.

Give it up Poppo. You are too nice of a person to go along with this charade.

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Grand Birther wrote:
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"The Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate,"
The Hawaii Revised Statutes certainly do.
§338-13 Certified copies.(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol0...
State law NEVER changed despite Hawaii DOH's LIE about policy changes being made.
Sorry Birfoon, read the regs.

"Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy (1) A certified copy may be issued to any person authorized to receive a standard certified copy."

That means, BirfoonBoy, that DOH is perfectly entitled to issue a computer generated certified BC rather than a photocopy of the original.

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<quoted text>You would because you are an Obama ButtLickin Obot!
I am not surprised that you are that STUPID!
I Agree ! Romney is STUPID !
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Sorry Birffon, the relevant governing regulation pursuant to statute:
Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy (1) A certified copy may be issued to any person authorized to receive a standard certified copy.
That means, BirfoonBoy, that DOH is perfectly entitled to issue a computer generated certified BC rather than a photocopy of the original.
Sorreeeeeeeeeeee!
Duncan Sunahara was given exactly what he was entitled to receive, birfoon moaning and wailing notwithstanding.
Then why is he suing the Hawaii DOH?

All he wants is a certified long form copy of his dead twins birth certificate who was born on Aug. 4, 1961. Whats so hard about that?

This reference is on all the Hawaii BC I have seen so far.

§338-13 Certified copies.(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.

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Explain this. And watch closely. I know it takes you a while for things to sink in. Keep your mouse on the stop button for difficult areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Sorry Birfoon, if you cannot compose a succinct and coherent reply in your own words, you're wasting my time.
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Sorry, loser.
That is the date that Hawaii started using the then new Certification of Live Birth form. Do you think everyone who received a BC in the last ten years has an altered BC?
UR nuts.
Pathetic.
BTW, it has the same data, born in Honolulu, HI on August 4, 1961, as does the correspondence from USCIS in the 1960s. So what was altered in your altered universe?
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wojar wrote:
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Sorry Birfoon, if you cannot compose a succinct and coherent reply in your own words, you're wasting my time.
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Good then don't post to me anymore because you have been wasting my time for months with your childish remarks.
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Grand Birther wrote:
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"The Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate,"
The Hawaii Revised Statutes certainly do.
§338-13 Certified copies.(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol0...
State law NEVER changed despite Hawaii DOH's LIE about policy changes being made.
Here is how they got away with changing the information on Obama's BC.
§338-17.7
(5) Upon request of a law enforcement agency certifying that a new birth certificate showing different information would provide for the safety of the birth registrant; provided that the new birth certificate shall contain information requested by the law enforcement agency, shall be assigned a new number and filed accordingly, and shall not substitute for the birth registrant's original birth certificate, which shall remain in place.

(b) When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record.[L 1973, c 39,§1; am L 1975, c 66,§2(3); am L 1979, c 130,§1 and c 203,§1; am L 1982, c 4,§1; am L 1983, c 65,§1; am L 1984, c 167,§1; am L 1993, c 131,§2]

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Just Sayin wrote:
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Then why is he suing the Hawaii DOH?
All he wants is a certified long form copy of his dead twins birth certificate who was born on Aug. 4, 1961. Whats so hard about that?
This reference is on all the Hawaii BC I have seen so far.
§338-13 Certified copies.(a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
Sorry, BirfoonBoy, he was given a birth certificate.

Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy (1) A certified copy may be issued to any person authorized to receive a standard certified copy.

That means, BirfoonBoy, that DOH is perfectly entitled to issue a computer generated certified BC rather than a photocopy of the original.

That's what it says and that's what it means.

BirfoonBoy: "This reference is on all the Hawaii BC I have seen so far."

So that means "Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy" doesn't exist? Because BirfoonBoy is unaware of the regulation it doesn't exist?

That's Rouge logic.

BirfoonBoy: "Then why is he suing the Hawaii DOH?"

Answer, because he's a disgruntled childish birfoon who has misread the law and thinks that moaning, whining, and jumping up and down will get him what he wants.
wojar wrote:
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Sorry Birffon, the relevant governing regulation pursuant to statute:
Section 2.5.B.1 Abbreviated copy (1) A certified copy may be issued to any person authorized to receive a standard certified copy.
That means, BirfoonBoy, that DOH is perfectly entitled to issue a computer generated certified BC rather than a photocopy of the original.
Sorreeeeeeeeeeee!
Duncan Sunahara was given exactly what he was entitled to receive, birfoon moaning and wailing notwithstanding.

“Facts trump speculation”

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Just Sayin wrote:
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Here is how they got away with changing the information on Obama's BC.
§338-17.7
(5) Upon request of a law enforcement agency certifying that a new birth certificate showing different information would provide for the safety of the birth registrant; provided that the new birth certificate shall contain information requested by the law enforcement agency, shall be assigned a new number and filed accordingly, and shall not substitute for the birth registrant's original birth certificate, which shall remain in place.
(b) When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. Such sealed document shall be opened only by an order of a court of record.[L 1973, c 39,§1; am L 1975, c 66,§2(3); am L 1979, c 130,§1 and c 203,§1; am L 1982, c 4,§1; am L 1983, c 65,§1; am L 1984, c 167,§1; am L 1993, c 131,§2]

Hee hee hee. Does BirfoonBoy understand what "a person born in this State" means?

BirfoonBoy forgot to read the entire subsection "anew certificate of birth for a person born in this State who already has a birth certificate filed with the department and who is referred to below as the “birth registrant.”"

Get a clue, child. Even if your witness protection fantasy were true, Obama would still be born in Hawaii and a natural born citizen.

Furthermore, the State of Hawaii has officially verified that Barack Obama was born at Kapiolani according to the ORIGINAL VITAL RECORD.

Your house of cards fell long ago BirfoonChild.

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