BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

Did you figure out why the the Depression of 1929 turned into the Great Depression? Because FDR promoted his Progressive Agenda instead of fixing the economy and that exactly what O'Bummer has done. Turned a normal Recession into the Great Recession.

Thank you for once again stating your opinion even though you cannot name even one text on Econommics that you have found useful.
FOR YOUR NEXT ACT please cite ANY ECONOMIST who agrees with your opinion.
Or is this a matter of a single uneducated military welfare person versus the entire body of academic scholarship on this point?

Johannes wrote:

You are part of the problem....you are now trying to cover up the truth.
The truth is that the RCC has engaged in child molestation. The truth is that the RCC has covered up child molestation. The truth is that the RCC has failed to report instances of child molestation to the civil authorities.
Now deny that.

Abuse of children cannot be tolerated at all.
The percentage of homosexual priests is probably only slightly higher than the percentage of homosexuals in the general population.
You are correct that the grave sin of the Roman Catholic hierarchy has been to cover up this serious problem. It is well known that several Bishops are practicing homosexuals. This is why the stonewalled the officially authorized investigation headed by (former Gov.) Frank Keating and now Illinois Supreme Court Justice Anne Burke, both of whom resigned in disgust.

Old Goat wrote:

<quoted text>she was subject to her mother and father wasn't she, she was born a Subject of the Crown. You can't divide a child from it's father's country.
So we as a country could prevent that child from leaving our shores to return to her parents country.
Looks like we do not have jurisdiction over children born here of alien fathers.

BirfoonBoy: "So we as a country could prevent that child from leaving our shores to return to her parents country."

Sorry, BirfoonBoy, your question is inane and uninformed:

"[T]he right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people, indispensable to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Act of July 27, 1868, ch. 249, 15 Stat. 223, 223 (1868).

BirfoonBoy: "You can't divide a child from it's father's country."

Sorry, BirfoonBoy:

"[I]t is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine
for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship."

US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 668 18 S.Ct. 456,464 (1898).

wojar wrote:

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Sorry birfoon. Lynch was born in the US and not subject to any foreign power. She was born a US citizen, and would have been a born a citizen even if born after the 14th Amendment.
C.f., US v. Wong Kin Ark.
Sorry, loser.

Just Sayin wrote:

And if you were from USA you would know that the Muslim President did not acknowledge Nation Prayer Day last year.

The fact is that most Muslims are FAR MORE DEVOUT than the average Christian. Muslims pray for extended time periods several times each day.

Terri Tanna wrote:

Terri Tanna wrote:
"Ha Ha Ha --'Mr. Constitution' doesn't even know where to find the list of impeachable offenses!!!!!
"Our resident Supreme Court justice has pronounced there is 114+ years of BOGUS Law. OK - prove that it is by citing the appellate court that has overruled it."
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Thank you for acknowledging that I have answered.

I must have missed your answer, could you repeat!!!
I see you can't read ether, 114+ years of BOGUS law to correct. Now how does one correct BOGUS Law!

Just Sayin wrote:

IMPLICATIVE DISCOVERY: A government document found buried in the online reference section of a Boston Public Library archive bolsters a growing mountain of evidentiary data against Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be president. The document indicates that a consular officer issued a single certificate of statutory citizenship, within the time frame including August 4, 1961, to a child born to a U.S. citizen between July 1st and December 31st, 1961 in the Kenyan region of Africa. The record also reveals that the certificate was the only one issued for this specific type of arrival in the U.S. over a span of more than 18 months, among thousands from other parts of the world.
The document not only aligns with the alleged date of Obama’s birth on August 4, 1961, but also with evidence indicating that Ann Dunham departed from Hawaii beginning in February, 1961

IMPLICATIVE DISCOVERY: Birfoons are idiots.

If the mystical Kenyan nativity myth were true, the little tyke would not have been eligible to receive a certificate of citizenship. Birfoons are once again, barking up the wrong tree.

Terri Tanna wrote:
"THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU SO INTELLECUALLY INTIMIDATED THAT YOU CANNOT STATE WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHAT I POSTED? Is it your lack of knowledge of natural law, your lack of knowledge about the Constitution, or your lack of education?"
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As an Opus Dei Roman Catholic I do know the Catechism quite well. I doubt seriously my last para.(printed above) is in the Catechism. Can you point to the citation?

Old Goat wrote:

Liar!

I printed the last para. from my post above. Obviously you failed miserably to find it in the Catechism, so you have to resort to name calling. Sadly, it is uneducated children such as you that may cause us to lose the election to Obama. You destroy all intellectual respect anyone might have for the conservative position.

Obama thinks they work for him, because he is a person of no morals , as US marine could not speak his will .

Obama and the leftists are not doing any good by taking advantage of ( hard work building the goodies from pioneers and the US people ), by mis-using the position to feel that he is in power, with no ethics to outcome a lot of abuses, to be against free will and free thinking of the freedom people in the United States, from getting Marine fired, and acting on anti-free-speech, and by using wrongly-acting position ,to even inflate the word of ’slut’, spoken by freedom journalist and radio people like Rush Limbaugh.

Obama is afraid the people to scold bickering him, having fear of being criticized, as a weak-character person

Obama does not like freedom, as oriented to socialistic Communistic way, by operating against the freedom doctrine and principle--as that is not the value of US freedom people and Usa however .

It is a waste for all good work of former pioneers and general public building the goodies, of which are so much taken advantage of, by Obama as an unworthy cheap person by knowing to do abuses and is not worthwhile for any people to go with.

This shows Obama is not worthy of anything In his misconduct.

Poppo wrote:

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Through the Twilight Zone to the Birfoon Straits would be the easiest and cheapest route. One can obviously go anywhere from there by simply clicking their heels.

But they can't go anywhere without their tin foil hats.

Jacques Ottawa wrote:

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Mombassa to Honolulu, eh? How?

Obama thinks they work for him, because he is a person of no morals , as US marine could not speak his will .

Obama and the leftists are not doing any good by taking advantage of ( hard work building the goodies from pioneers and the US people ), by mis-using the position to feel that he is in power, with no ethics to outcome a lot of abuses, to be against free will and free thinking of the freedom people in the United States, from getting Marine fired, and acting on anti-free-speech, and by using wrongly-acting position ,to even inflate the word of ’slut’, spoken by freedom journalist and radio people like Rush Limbaugh.

Obama is afraid that people scold bickering him, having fear of being criticized, as a weak-character person

Obama does not like freedom, as oriented to socialistic Communistic way, by operating against the freedom doctrine and principle--as that is not the value of US freedom people and Usa however .

It is a waste for all good work of former pioneers and general public building the goodies, of which are so much taken advantage of, by Obama as an unworthy cheap person by knowing to do abuses and is not worthwhile for any people to go with.

This shows Obama is not worthy of anything In his misconduct.

Obama is not able to stand on his own, by being irresponsible all the time and always passing the buck.

, sam

Terri Tanna wrote:

Terri Tanna wrote:
"[T]he 14th Amend. and Art 2, Sect 1, p5, of the US Constitution and all of the innuendo was duly considered in the constitutional process by which it was determined that Barack Hussein Obama Jr. was indeed fully eligible to become the President of the United States of America.
"The fact that your whimpering voice was NOT heard reflects more on your INEFFECTIVENESS AS A HUMAN BEING and less on our sacred Constitution.
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"The constitutional determination of Obama's natural-born citizenship that was made with LEGAL FINALITY was made by the persons who were chosen specifically for that purpose by our sacred United States Constitution.
"Your uneducated and unsupported frothing flies in the face of the "Will of 'WE THE PEOPLE.'"
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"Once again, the child demonstrates the s/he cannot deal with hard facts that require an understanding of the Constitution as it has been implemented for the past 224 years."
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Not surprisingly that is all s/he can say in the face of the overwhelming facts of the examination of the president's eligibility by following the strict dictates laid down in our sacred Constitution more than 224 yrs. ago. PATHETIC.

what else can one say of your postings? After all they are getting monotonous, same old BS by the same old bitch.

Poppo wrote:

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NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim May 5, 2011, as a National Day of Prayer. I invite all citizens of our Nation, as their own faith or conscience directs them, to join me in giving thanks for the many blessings we enjoy, and I ask all people of faith to join me in asking God for guidance, mercy, and protection for our Nation.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-ninth day of April, in the year of our Lord two thousand eleven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fifth.
BARACK OBAMA
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/20...

Oh sure all you cowardly, sleazy Obot chicken livers. You wait until I say I'm signing off for the day then you come out in force and attack me. I logged off at 11:30pm Sunday. Where were you all day long? On your knees in an anti American Mosque with your face on the floor and you rear-end up in the air "mooning" your God I suppose. Just what Allah wants to see. A bunch of azzholes bubbling nonesense.

Your source is dated April 29, 2011 which is not the date of the National Day of Prayer which just shows that you are a typical anti-American Obot.

Here is what our FINE President had on his Agenda on the date of the National Day of Prayer

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

May 4, 2011

DAILY GUIDANCE AND PRESS SCHEDULE FOR

THURSDAY, MAY 5, 2011

First he went to ground zero to celebrate the destruction of the WTC with all the other anti-American Muslims in New York This was televised and I'll bet the anti-American Muslims all over the world were cheering.

Then he had a "closed press" meeting with the 911 victims families and first responders.
(I guess he didn't want to seem biased or offend anyone)

In the evening, the President and the First Lady hosted a Cinco de Mayo reception in the East Room.

Cinco de Mayo?????????

I am sure his announcement in your post concerning May 5th was pure coincidental.

This clown needs to be shipped to one of his favorite countries because he certainly isn't at home here

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

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Okay, out of the 63,527 cases in 2010, how many are associated with the Roman Catholic Church? According to this reference, 230 out of 1,000 citizens are Roman Catholics.
http://www.demographia.com/db-religusa2002.ht...
The next largest is LDS with 19.4 per 1,000. That means the Catholic Church is about twelve times larger and 23% of all church goers.
Soooo, now back to the question, what percent of the 63,527 cases in 2010 are associated with the Catholic Church? If it is less than 23%, then the Catholic Church is BELOW average, RIGHT!!!
And then, how many children are sexually abused by NON-church goers?
We all know you hate Christians in general and Catholics in particular but Christians in general do much more good than harm. Again, the sexual exploitation of any child is a travesty. But you twisted allegations are more based your bigotry of Christians than it does facts!

I'm sorry Rouge, your 23% figure based on percent of church goers is immaterial. What percentage of clergy in the US are Roman Catholic priests? If you don't even know the right questions to ask, how can you possibly find the solution?

Terri Tanna wrote:

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The fact is that most Muslims are FAR MORE DEVOUT than the average Christian. Muslims pray for extended time periods several times each day.

And just how do you know what Christians do? I know some Christians who thank their God for every positive thing that happens to them all day long. No they do not make a big show of it like Tebow does but mentally they do thank him.

wojar wrote:

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BirfoonBoy: "So we as a country could prevent that child from leaving our shores to return to her parents country."
Sorry, BirfoonBoy, your question is inane and uninformed:
"[T]he right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people, indispensable to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Act of July 27, 1868, ch. 249, 15 Stat. 223, 223 (1868).
BirfoonBoy: "You can't divide a child from it's father's country."
Sorry, BirfoonBoy:
"[I]t is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine
for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship."
US v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 668 18 S.Ct. 456,464 (1898).
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that is right, it is the inherent right of every nation, so don't be hijacking children of other nations.
The US is nothing more than the place of birth to children of aliens, they retain their fathers country and citizenship, just as we do in a foreign land.

Terri Tanna wrote:

Terri Tanna wrote:
"THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU SO INTELLECUALLY INTIMIDATED THAT YOU CANNOT STATE WHETHER YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHAT I POSTED? Is it your lack of knowledge of natural law, your lack of knowledge about the Constitution, or your lack of education?"
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As an Opus Dei Roman Catholic I do know the Catechism quite well. I doubt seriously my last para.(printed above) is in the Catechism. Can you point to the citation?

this was your discussion!
AGREE or DISAGREE:
Society can be neither well-ordered nor prosperous unless it has some people invested with legitimate authority to preserve its institutions and to devote themselves as far as is necessary to work and care for the good of all.
"Authority" is those persons or institutions that make laws and give orders to mankind and expect obedience from them. In the United States of America this is the Congress and the President.
Every human community needs “Authority” to govern it. Authority’s role is to assure as far as possible the common good of the society.
The duty of citizenship requires each to give due honor to Authority and to treat those who are charged to exercise it with respect and with gratitude and good-will.
The choice of the structure of the political regime and the appointment of rulers must be left to the free decision of the citizens.
The diversity of political regimes is acceptable under natural law, provided each serves the legitimate good of the communities that adopt them. Regimes whose nature is contrary to natural law, to the public order, and to the fundamental rights of persons cannot achieve the common good of the nations on which they have been imposed.
Authority derives its moral legitimacy from natural law. It must not behave in a despotic manner, but must act for the common good.
Statutory law has the character of law to the extent that it accords with right reason. Insofar as it falls short of right reason it is said to be an unjust law.
Authority is exercised legitimately only when it seeks the common good of the citizens concerned and if it employs morally licit means to attain it.
The “Rule of Law,” in which the law is sovereign and not the arbitrary will of men, prefers that each power be balanced by other powers and by other spheres of responsibility which keep it within proper bounds.
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Catechism!

LIAR!

A child who enters the U.S. who was not named on a passport prior to the use of that passport to depart the U.S. must undergo another form of identification process upon returning. A child who did not exist when the parent departed the U.S., in the absence of a passport, must be classified as one of three definitions, a non-resident alien, a derived citizen by parentage or marriage, or a child with acquired citizenship by birth or legal adoption by a U.S. citizen.

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Remember Terri Tunna said that there were many other blacks to hold the position of President/ Editor of the HLR!

Sorry, Rouge, she never said that. RU hallucinating again?

Just Sayin wrote:
IMPLICATIVE DISCOVERY: A government document found buried in the online reference section of a Boston Public Library archive bolsters a growing mountain of evidentiary data against Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be president. The document indicates that a consular officer issued a single certificate of statutory citizenship, within the time frame including August 4, 1961, to a child born to a U.S. citizen between July 1st and December 31st, 1961 in the Kenyan region of Africa. The record also reveals that the certificate was the only one issued for this specific type of arrival in the U.S. over a span of more than 18 months, among thousands from other parts of the world.
The document not only aligns with the alleged date of Obama’s birth on August 4, 1961, but also with evidence indicating that Ann Dunham departed from Hawaii beginning in February, 1961
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Jacques Ottawa reply
More plagiarism without attribution. How low can you go?

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Just Sayin

I gave you the source for this smart guy. Since you Obotaloons seem to get a kick out of degrading sources you can hunt this up yourself.

Not an Obot wrote:

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the WND research indicates that she first flew back to the US before going to Hawaii.
They have compiled a ton of data, but I have just started looking at it.

Research findings without evidence. What a novel birfoon concept.

How could she return when she never left?

Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:

Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Mombassa to Honolulu, eh? How?
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You could go from Kenya to Honolulu either by going West or going East. But you can not fly there directly even today. you have make connecting flights.
Back in 1961 it probably would take you maybe 48 hours to make that trip but today you can do it under 18 hours.
Remember, Bill Clinton did not need FIVE months to get from Oxford to Yale in 1969.