Religion And Birth Control: Not Just a Gop Fight

barefoot2626 wrote:

Don't cha love it when so called "Christian conservatives" try to say God is on their team because they thump the bible?
Women aren't going to be denied access to birth control, Shug. We aren't going back to the 60's.

barefoot2626 wrote:

All people have the right to birth control and contraceptive health coverage, even people who have vaginas.
Go figure...

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cjrian wrote:

As Abe Lincoln once said, "Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side"

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cjrian wrote:

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No one is trying to control access to BC

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cjrian wrote:

But Obama is trying to make it a "right" to have third parties

barefoot2626 wrote:

Yes they were, Darling: precisely what this fight was about

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cjrian wrote:

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BULL!!!!!
This is about who PAYS
For what is essentially recreational activity

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cjrian wrote:

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BULL!!!!!
This is about who PAYS
For what is essentially recreational activity

barefoot2626 wrote:

Really?
Most people would consider procreation an essential activity for species survival...
I guess we could all pray for miraculously conception

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>The Republicans are the only ones interested in what you do in your bedroom. Now it is coming out that the Republican Radical Religious Right consider birth control pills to be a type of abortion and want to outlaw them. Republicans want government out of the boardroom and into the bedroom which is the extreme opposite of what this Country needs.

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>The Republicans are the only ones interested in what you do in your bedroom. Now it is coming out that the Republican Radical Religious Right consider birth control pills to be a type of abortion and want to outlaw them. Republicans want government out of the boardroom and into the bedroom which is the extreme opposite of what this Country needs.

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>A true Christian is a person who believes in the teaching of Jesus, not the doctrines of a church. Jesus never made claims of a trinity. He did say he was the son of God. But he also said we are all Gods children. All of us Gods sons and daughters. He never made claims of “being a God” It was the early Catholic Church that elevated him to a deity in order to sell they religion to the pagans.

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swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>"I am" was a term used by the Jews for God.(I am that I am, you may call me I am) "To be one with" means you totally believe in. To one with the President does not means you are the President. While we are at it the term "forty days and forty nights" was a slang expression meaning for a long but unknown amount of time. Moses was on the mountain for forty days and forty nights. Noah drifted for forty days and forty nights. Jesus fasted for forty day and forty nights. It would be like today saying he was gone for a coons age. It does not mean he was gone for the average life span of a coon. Forty days and forty night was not meant to be an exact number of days and night. The Pharisees attacked Jesus because he questioned their authority. The Pharisees had set themselves up to be the sole interpreters of Gods law and therefore above the masses. They had become corrupted with their power and Jesus often showed contempt for them. Jesus was preaching equality (we are all equal in the eyes of the lord) which was a threat to their authority. Most of the charges they brought against Jesus were pure spin of the type that Fox News engages in today. Simply reading the Bible is not enough. You must also understand the politics and customs of the time to have a clearer understand of what Jesus was preaching.

cjrian wrote:

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Last I heard, BC wasn't exactly conducive to procreation, is it?

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swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>The lies and spin from the Right are unending. That is why it is impossible to have any real discourse with them because all you do is spand all your time debunking their lies.

McGruff wrote:

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I change my mind about you. You are a fool.

barefoot2626 wrote:

Last I heard, there has been only one virginal birth in the history of mankind and that is disputed, and most heterosexuals understand the birth control pill is about controlling the *time* persons *choose* to procreate.
It's in all the papers...

barefoot2626 wrote:

PS: 98 percent of adult American women have used BC at some point but they still manage to give birth... usually, when they choose to

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>Exodus 3:14 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.