'The War Is Not Over'

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courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281342 Jul 5, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the investigation, Agents never saw, touched, funded, or purchased the guns found at the Terry murder scene. Not only that but Arizona’s lax gun laws (it’s like buying a sandwich) also made it impossible to prosecute the 31 men identified by ATF agents as suspected straw purchasers for the Sinaloa drug cartel.
Darrell Issa represents gun manufacturing. When agent Terry got killed he knew there would be a call to stop all guns from crossing the border into Mexico. But the Mexican cartels are the largest purchaser of US made guns. So Issa deliberately concocted and set up the gun scandal. And look how effectively the scam worked. Guns are still flowing freely and legally into Mexico. There is no call for gun control. He embarrassed the president, diminished Holder’s ability to investigate his leaks and GOP election fraud, made a name for himself, and walked away a richer man. That guy is master criminal.
buying a sandwich??? b bu but what about federal gun laws??

nics for example
courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281343 Jul 5, 2012
Every American owes a debt of thanks to our forefathers who had the courage to secure liberty through the force of arms and then saw fit to enshrine the right to arms in our Constitution, thus securing liberty by forcing government to look over its shoulder at an armed populace.

Guns were definitely part of the celebration in the Founders’ time. Since it’s unwise to fire into the air, as they did on the first news of the Declaration, we encourage taking the celebration to the nearest range or safe shooting area. We also encourage shooters to take the opportunity to introduce friends, family and coworkers to the fun and excitement of safe and responsible target shooting.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#281344 Jul 5, 2012
French Resistance wrote:
Check it out, the Nazis are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
German Neo-Nazi National Socialist Underground Case Brings Spy Agency Shake-Up
--http://www.huffingtonpost.co m/2012/07/04/german-neo-nazi-n ational-socialist-underground_ n_1649667.html
And just think how many posters to this forum scoff at the notion that Nazis still lurk around the world.
In Germany, no less, operated the National Socialist (NAZI) Underground, which assassinated many people and robbed banks to fund its nefarious aims. Those Germans just can't let that right-wing militarism go, now, can they? Sound like a bunch of American Republicans, now, don't they?
ABs, I bet you are all busted up over your Nazi friends getting busted over in Germany.
Just think, they killed dark-skinned Turks. Those Nazis, even the Republican ones in America, just hate dark-skinned people, now, don't they, ABs?
Hell, the Nazis and the American Republicans seem to hate lots and lots of folks.
Currently, in the United States, the "groups to hate" according to conservative, Republican ideology are women, immigrants (particularly Hispanic ones from Mexico and Central America), and as always, African-Americans. Naturally, gays and lesbians are always hated by conservatives, along with the poor.
Note how American Republicans currently are engaging in a "hate-fest" against the American poor who have no health insurance?
I wish the Republican Party of America would go ahead and put a swastika on that elephant. Then, change the name of the party to the Nazi Republican Party of America. Perhaps the GOP could even re-institute the Nazi "sieg heil" Roman salute, which they could use at the upcoming Nazi Republican national convention in Tampa Bay, Florida. I, for one, would also like to see the Nazi Republicans goose-step march into the convention center, while intermittently raising their right arms in the Roman salute.
In a way, the Nazi Republicans are adorable, aren't they? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
For every person claiming the Republicans are Nazis there is another claiming Democrats are socialist. As bad as the Nazis were, the communist were worse, killing more people than all the Fascist, all the Democracies and all the religious nut jobs combined.
Republicans don’t hate anybody. They love their country but don’t trust their government—not because they think their government is evil, but because they know it (and all governments) are at best incompetent. We know the government doesn’t make money and everything it has was confiscated from someone else. We have over 313 million legal citizens and maybe 20 million more illegal. People can either be free or they can be equal, they can’t be both. We want to be free.
Governing 330+million people is a daunting task, providing every one of them with what they feel they need is an impossible task even for a government 10 times the size of the one we have. When the government begins to use the peoples assets to buy the peoples votes eventually it will run out of assets to seize and collapse. Republicans don’t want that to happen and apparently Democrats don’t care if it does.
frank

Oakland, CA

#281345 Jul 5, 2012
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text>buying a sandwich??? b bu but what about federal gun laws??
nics for example
Darrell Issa has accused the Obama administration as “the most corrupt” in history! This coming from a known felon and habitual liar – Issa has been arrested twice, ones for grand theft auto of a Maserati and ones for illegal possession of a fire arm while driving down a one-way street. He also lied about his military unit providing security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series, and that he received the highest approval ratings during his service. However, a 1998 investigation by the SF Examiner found these claims were not true, since Nixon had not attended any of that year's World Series games. The investigation also discovered that Issa was actually transferred to a supply depot after he received an unsatisfactory evaluation.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#281346 Jul 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What's the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain? Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years?... on and on, round and round it goes, for decades. Every once in a while someone opposed to immigration will make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants.
But the counter-argument to the last is almost never mentioned: Yes, the United States does have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping situations in their homelands made hopeless by American interventions and policy. In Guatemala and Nicaragua Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty. In El Salvador the US played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government, and to a lesser extent played such a role in Honduras. And in Mexico, although Washington has not intervened militarily in Mexico since 1919, over the years the US has been providing training, arms, and surveillance technology to Mexico's police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people's aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the impoverished to the United States. Moreover, Washington's North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized US agricultural products into Mexico and driven many Mexican farmers off the land.
The end result of all these policies has been an army of migrants heading north in search of a better life. It's not that these people prefer to live in the United States. They'd much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and right-wingers.
Counterpunch
Several readers have asked me why Counterpunch, one of the most important progressive websites, no longer runs this report. It's been going on for about six months. Awhile ago I wrote to the two gentlemen who run the site, asking what happened. Neither one answered. It's a big mystery, particularly since I seemed to be on very friendly terms with them. Any reader who shares my concern can feel free to contact the editors; perhaps you'll have more luck than I did. counterpunch@counterpunch.org
There is and always has been political instability throughout the Latin world. Not only in the Americas, but in Spain and Italy as well. You would need to be a card carrying “Blame America First” member to fault the US for the many revolutions, the corruption, the poverty, the political instability and extremisms of Latin politics. If the US never existed, it would make little difference to the lives of the millions living below the Rio Grande. The fact that the US does exist and has been used as an illegal dumping ground for much of Latin America’s poor has reduced the pressure on many of those countries to fix their social ills.
We have fought two wars with Canada yet we now share the longest demilitarized border in the world. We have worked as closely with Canada as any country in the world, yet they don’t have the same problems as Mexico or the rest of Latin America. Maybe the US isn’t at fault.
frank

Oakland, CA

#281347 Jul 5, 2012
courteous europhobe wrote:
Every American owes a debt of thanks to our forefathers who had the courage to secure liberty through the force of arms and then saw fit to enshrine the right to arms in our Constitution, thus securing liberty by forcing government to look over its shoulder at an armed populace.
Guns were definitely part of the celebration in the Founders’ time. Since it’s unwise to fire into the air, as they did on the first news of the Declaration, we encourage taking the celebration to the nearest range or safe shooting area. We also encourage shooters to take the opportunity to introduce friends, family and coworkers to the fun and excitement of safe and responsible target shooting.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Is a call for an armed militia ready to defend against an aggressor (the Britts) at a moments notice (i.e. "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State") and hardly against its own Gov’t. That right-wingnuz notion of putting firearms into the hands of the public so they could take them up against its own Gov’t is not only laughable but mildly insane and certainly absurd! Of course the modern, and highly questionable interpretations, holds that the 2nd Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that weapon for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Moreover, this right applies not just to the federal government, but to states and municipalities as well – nothing is ever mentioned that the meaning of its purpose is to bear arms against our own Gov’t! That crazed notion strictly belongs to the rabid right-wing-fringe lunatics!
ABs

Oxford, AL

#281348 Jul 5, 2012
Roberts American Hero wrote:
<quoted text>
Romney is for certain a Wall Streeter, what with a Harvard MBA and having worked as CEO of Bain Capital.
ABs, just who do you suggest voting for for US president? If Obama and Romney are both Wall Street hacks, who is left to vote for?
Which one is the incumbent?

My dear barkedale, have you forgotten my mantra so soon?
It ends with "regardless of party affiliation"
ABs

Oxford, AL

#281349 Jul 5, 2012
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
For every person claiming the Republicans are Nazis there is another claiming Democrats are socialist. As bad as the Nazis were, the communist were worse, killing more people than all the Fascist, all the Democracies and all the religious nut jobs combined.
Republicans don’t hate anybody. They love their country but don’t trust their government—not because they think their government is evil, but because they know it (and all governments) are at best incompetent. We know the government doesn’t make money and everything it has was confiscated from someone else. We have over 313 million legal citizens and maybe 20 million more illegal. People can either be free or they can be equal, they can’t be both. We want to be free.
Governing 330+million people is a daunting task, providing every one of them with what they feel they need is an impossible task even for a government 10 times the size of the one we have. When the government begins to use the peoples assets to buy the peoples votes eventually it will run out of assets to seize and collapse. Republicans don’t want that to happen and apparently Democrats don’t care if it does.
Nice to hear from you Dave, hope your health and family are well as always...
ABs

Oxford, AL

#281350 Jul 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What is happy 4th?
A happy 4th in the ABs household is a fifth of glenlivet 80% full...
ABs

Oxford, AL

#281351 Jul 5, 2012
French Resistance wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ, you are a medical doctor, aren't you?
You are a Pakistani Muslim medical doctor, practicing medicine in
Saudi Arabia, correct?

Your command of English is impeccable. I have a lot of experience with persons from Pakistan with various advanced degrees. As a matter of fact, I have never met a person from Pakistan who was not at least a Ph. D. candidate, or who did not hold a J.D. or M.D.
...
India, Pakistan...whats the difference eh barkedale?...what a twit...he is from India, they hate Pakistan...why don't you just kick him in the ballz, less painful than your hapless attempt at sucking up...

I bet you do have a ton of experience with people of Pakistan...being the humble religious and conservative person you are...

You are right about one thing, almost all people (women excluded of course) in Pakistan are MD's...if MD stands for Mad Dogs...
ISLAMABAD (AP)- Thousands of people dragged a Pakistani man accused of desecrating Islam's holy book from a police station in central Pakistan, beat him to death and then set his body on fire, a police official said Wednesday.

The incident highlighted the highly charged nature of Pakistan's blasphemy laws, under which anyone found guilty of insulting Islam's Prophet or the Quran can be sentenced to death.

Sometimes, however, people take the matter into their own hands.

A senior police officer, Mohammed Azhar Gujar, said in the incident Tuesday in Bahawalpur, a city in a deeply conservative part of central Pakistan, attackers stormed a police station where the man was being interrogated.

Gujar said the victim seemed to be mentally unstable. He was arrested after residents said he threw pages of the Quran into the street.

While the man was being questioned, some people started making announcements over mosque loudspeakers, urging residents to go to the police station and punish him.

Within hours, thousands gathered outside and demanded the man be handed over to them. Gujar said police tried to protect him, but the mob turned violent.

They burned several police vehicles and wounded seven officers before grabbing the man and dragging him into the street, where he was beaten to death and his body set on fire.

Gujar said the mob also attacked the house of an area police chief and burned his furniture and possessions.

Is that the shining future you wish for us Barkedale...free from republican oppression...
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#281354 Jul 6, 2012
French Resistance wrote:
<quoted text>
MUQ, you are a medical doctor, aren't you?
You are a Pakistani Muslim medical doctor, practicing medicine in
Saudi Arabia, correct?
Your command of English is impeccable. I have a lot of experience with persons from Pakistan with various advanced degrees. As a matter of fact, I have never met a person from Pakistan who was not at least a Ph. D. candidate, or who did not hold a J.D. or M.D.
I am impressed with your intelligence and acumen, and wish you the very best in your endeavors. I am proud that you choose to make The War Is Not Over your Topix home, because intelligent discourse is desired here on this forum, and you deliver.
Thanks, Dr. MUQ.
Thanks for your compliments.

I am in fact and Indian Engineer working in Saudi Arabia for many years.

So both your guesses were wrong!!

But that does not mean that I do not honor your sincerity and appreciation!!

There are two divergent views about by "command on English".... there is a Big group which says that I write very poor English and it is not understood by most of "White people".

Then there is a small group which say that I am just average in English and they can barely understand me.

And there is a very very small group which includes persons like you, who say that I have good command on English language.

Now in these days of Democracy whom should I believe? If it comes to votes, the big group shall win and I would be banned from posting any thing in English on these threads unless I improve my English language!!

But I want to thank you and be with the very very small group....because speakers of truth have been a small group thru out human history!!

On that happy note, let me say that I am touched by your compliments.
courteous Europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281355 Jul 6, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Is a call for an armed militia ready to defend against an aggressor (the Britts) at a moments notice (i.e. "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State") and hardly against its own Gov’t. That right-wingnuz notion of putting firearms into the hands of the public so they could take them up against its own Gov’t is not only laughable but mildly insane and certainly absurd! Of course the modern, and highly questionable interpretations, holds that the 2nd Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that weapon for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Moreover, this right applies not just to the federal government, but to states and municipalities as well – nothing is ever mentioned that the meaning of its purpose is to bear arms against our own Gov’t! That crazed notion strictly belongs to the rabid right-wing-fringe lunatics!
I knew you'd love that post...

Why do you suppose the words chosen as ratified by the states and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson were the words

",the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”?

The right of the >PEOPLE< instead of

>>> the right of the well regulated militia <<<

to keep and bear arms?

Anyway why didn't the blessed federal gun laws solve the problem?
courteous Europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281356 Jul 6, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your compliments.
I am in fact and Indian Engineer working in Saudi Arabia for many years.
So both your guesses were wrong!!
But that does not mean that I do not honor your sincerity and appreciation!!
There are two divergent views about by "command on English".... there is a Big group which says that I write very poor English and it is not understood by most of "White people".
Then there is a small group which say that I am just average in English and they can barely understand me.
And there is a very very small group which includes persons like you, who say that I have good command on English language.
Now in these days of Democracy whom should I believe? If it comes to votes, the big group shall win and I would be banned from posting any thing in English on these threads unless I improve my English language!!
But I want to thank you and be with the very very small group....because speakers of truth have been a small group thru out human history!!
On that happy note, let me say that I am touched by your compliments.
Good Morning(here anyway)MUQ.

News you will see on

Al Arabiya

----------

Libya’s outgoing National Transitional Council said on Thursday that Sharia (Islamic law) should be the “main” source of legislation and that this should not be subject to a referendum.

“The Libyan people are attached to Islam, as a religion and legislation,” NTC spokesman Saleh Darhoub said, reading from a statement.

“As such the National Transitional Council recommends that the (next) congress make sharia the main source of legislation.”

“And this should not be subject to a referendum,” he added, speaking to journalists in Tripoli, according to AFP.

He later explained that the decision was made to reassure elements of society fearful of being saddled with a constitution that does not take into account Islamic law, or Sharia.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/07...

Hope you had, or will have... an excellent 4th
courteous Europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281357 Jul 6, 2012
on Iranian democracy

Minister warns conspirators against any plot

Tehran, July 6, IRNA – Minister of Information, Hojjatoleslam Heidar Moslehi, says the conspirators and anti-revolutionaries would not be allowed to repeat the 2009 plot.


Delivering pre-sermon lecture in this week Friday prayers congregation at Tehran University campus, Hojjatoleslam Moslehi said his ministry has a close watch on all the trends and wings, ready to confront them.

He said his personnel have gained many success both inside and outside the country.

“In cyber space we have been successful to the extent that (the US President) Barack Obama acknowledged three times in his claims that they (Americans) have been defeated and gained no result in the cyber space.”

http://www.irna.ir/News/Politic/Minister-warn...
courteous Europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281358 Jul 6, 2012
told you those euros were scary

Iran blames France, Germany intelligence for killing nuclear scientist

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_ea...
frank

Oakland, CA

#281359 Jul 6, 2012
courteous Europhobe wrote:
<quoted text> I knew you'd love that post...
Why do you suppose the words chosen as ratified by the states and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson were the words
",the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”?
The right of the >PEOPLE< instead of
>>> the right of the well regulated militia <<<
to keep and bear arms?
Anyway why didn't the blessed federal gun laws solve the problem?
Why do you suppose you refuse to answer the 'content' of my post?
allah-original terrorist

Chicago, IL

#281360 Jul 6, 2012
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
What You Need to Succeed is Sincerity, And If You Can Fake Sincerity You've Got It Made.(Old Hollywood axiom)
By William Blum (Contd.)
The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What's the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain? Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years?... on and on, round and round it goes, for decades. Every once in a while someone opposed to immigration will make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants.
But the counter-argument to the last is almost never mentioned: Yes, the United States does have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping situations in their homelands made hopeless by American interventions and policy. In Guatemala and Nicaragua Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty. In El Salvador the US played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government, and to a lesser extent played such a role in Honduras. And in Mexico, although Washington has not intervened militarily in Mexico since 1919, over the years the US has been providing training, arms, and surveillance technology to Mexico's police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people's aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the impoverished to the United States. Moreover, Washington's North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized US agricultural products into Mexico and driven many Mexican farmers off the land.
The end result of all these policies has been an army of migrants heading north in search of a better life. It's not that these people prefer to live in the United States. They'd much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and right-wingers.
Counterpunch
Several readers have asked me why Counterpunch, one of the most important progressive websites, no longer runs this report. It's been going on for about six months. Awhile ago I wrote to the two gentlemen who run the site, asking what happened. Neither one answered. It's a big mystery, particularly since I seemed to be on very friendly terms with them. Any reader who shares my concern can feel free to contact the editors; perhaps you'll have more luck than I did. counterpunch@counterpunch.org
Notes
1. Washington Post, March 5, 1987
2. Associated Press, December 12, 2006
3. President Ahmadinejad Delivers Remarks at Columbia University, Transcript, Washington Post, September 24, 2007
4. Remarks by the President at AIPAC Policy Conference, White House Office of the Press Secretary, March 4, 2012
5. Washington Post, March 3, 2008
6. The Pentagon v. Peak Oil, TomDispatch.com , June 14, 2007
7. Los Angeles Times, June 18, 1990

William Blum is the author of:
Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War 2
Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
West-Bloc Dissident: A Cold War Memoir
Freeing the World to Death: Essays on the American Empire
Portions of the books can be read, and signed copies purchased, at www.killinghope.org
every single muslim inferior deserves every American or European bullet and or bomb .
frank

Oakland, CA

#281362 Jul 6, 2012
courteous Europhobe wrote:
<quoted text> I knew you'd love that post...
Why do you suppose the words chosen as ratified by the states and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson were the words
",the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”?
The right of the >PEOPLE< instead of
>>> the right of the well regulated militia <<<
to keep and bear arms?
Anyway why didn't the blessed federal gun laws solve the problem?
Oh there is more, Obama not only approved the ultra-leftist-radical-backdoor plot, he personally purchased the guns in Arizona and had his wife and his children deliver them to a Mexican drug cartel complete with photographs of every border patrol agent! And the ultra-leftist-radical-backdoor plot lame-stream Media knows it and is helping him cover it up! He can’t fool us, we are on the his ultra-leftist-radical-backdoor plot and we will seek and resort to 2nd amendment remedies!
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#281363 Jul 6, 2012
CE wrote:
Hi Muq

The 4th

is independence day.

Here in the peaceful US...invaded only a few times in the last century and a half.

1941 and 2001

Now what was this vow you mentioned, was it with Japan?
Ans.

I could decode that happy 4th means July 4th the Independence day for USA.

What I did not like was your "belief" that happy 4th in "Universally recognized" as Independent day of USA.

You said "peaceful" USA? USA has been in war since the day it was formed and even before it was formed!!

It has fought more wars than any other nation on the face of earth, with such a short history!!

I would post the list of wars in which USA was involved in its short history.

In USA war is a business and there are strong people who control this business and no business man likes that he go out of business, so they always keep US involved in one war or the other.

They make War for Peace!!
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#281364 Jul 6, 2012
Dave wrote:
There is and always has been political instability throughout the Latin world. Not only in the Americas, but in Spain and Italy as well. You would need to be a card carrying “Blame America First” member to fault the US for the many revolutions, the corruption, the poverty, the political instability and extremisms of Latin politics.

If the US never existed, it would make little difference to the lives of the millions living below the Rio Grande. The fact that the US does exist and has been used as an illegal dumping ground for much of Latin America’s poor has reduced the pressure on many of those countries to fix their social ills.

We have fought two wars with Canada yet we now share the longest demilitarized border in the world. We have worked as closely with Canada as any country in the world, yet they don’t have the same problems as Mexico or the rest of Latin America. Maybe the US isn’t at fault.
Ans.

USA might be or might not be responsible for problems of every nation in the world.

But the way they get themselves involved in EVERY problem of the world and force their opinions on others, shows as if they own the whole world.

They place themselves and their opinions above the opinions of all others and try to get it implemented one way or the other.

US and Canada have good relations lo long as Canada "toe the line of USA"…. The moment they try to act independent of USA, they would soon find that they have a strong enemy on their northern borders.

That is why Canada and USA is like Mary and her little lamb, where Mary Goes the Lamb will follow.

So is the ties between USA and Canada, where USA goes, Canada will follow and not the other way round!!

USA will not change its policies because of Canada, it is Canada which should come in line with USA or else……?

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