'The War Is Not Over'

WASHINGTON - President Bush led the nation on Monday in marking the fifth anniversary of the Sept. Full Story
Reinhard Gehlen

Ishpeming, MI

#281327 Jul 4, 2012
After 8 years Al Jazeera asks what killed Arafat !?
"And amazingly Al Jazeera international made us forget for couple of hours our internal issues in Egypt and made us ask on twitter What killed Arafat after nearly 8 years of his death. "
John_PA

New York, NY

#281328 Jul 4, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
What is happy 4th?
As the Channel 10 news guy would say" don't drink a fifth on the forth so you come forth on the fifth
musta

San Jose, CA

#281329 Jul 4, 2012
hi all
allah-original terrorist

Chicago, IL

#281330 Jul 4, 2012
as long as subhuman muslims are killing each other it's really ...OK
frank

Oakland, CA

#281331 Jul 4, 2012
Darrell Issa has accused the Obama administration as “the most corrupt” in history! This coming from a known felon and habitual liar – Issa has been arrested twice, ones for grand theft auto of a Maserati and ones for illegal possession of a fire arm while driving down a one-way street. He also lied about his military unit providing security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series, and that he received the highest approval ratings during his service. However, a 1998 investigation by the SF Examiner found these claims were not true, since Nixon had not attended any of that year's World Series games. The investigation also discovered that Issa was actually transferred to a supply depot after he received an unsatisfactory evaluation.
frank

Oakland, CA

#281332 Jul 4, 2012
What is Ol’ Mitten hiding from again? Romney is a smart guy to be sure and most likely would make a damn good President but what is it with his half-truth and constant flip-lops? Based in Bermuda, Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors Ltd. was not listed on any of Romney's state or federal financial reports. The company is among several Romney holdings that have not been fully disclosed, including one that recently posted $2 million in earnings — suggesting he could be wealthier than the nearly $250 million estimated by his campaign. Sankaty Assets Ltd. was transferred to a trust owned by Romney's wife, Ann,‘one’ day before he was sworn in as Massachusetts governor in 2003. The offshore company was used in Bain's $1 billion takeover of Domino's Pizza and other multimillion-dollar investment deals more than a decade ago.
ABs

Albertville, AL

#281333 Jul 4, 2012
frank wrote:
What is Ol’ Mitten hiding from again? Romney is a smart guy to be sure and most likely would make a damn good President but what is it with his half-truth and constant flip-lops? Based in Bermuda, Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors Ltd. was not listed on any of Romney's state or federal financial reports. The company is among several Romney holdings that have not been fully disclosed, including one that recently posted $2 million in earnings — suggesting he could be wealthier than the nearly $250 million estimated by his campaign. Sankaty Assets Ltd. was transferred to a trust owned by Romney's wife, Ann,‘one’ day before he was sworn in as Massachusetts governor in 2003. The offshore company was used in Bain's $1 billion takeover of Domino's Pizza and other multimillion-dollar investment deals more than a decade ago.
Touching story my dear friend francis...

One day a woman's husband died, and on that clear, cold morning, in the warmth of their bedroom, the wife was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't "anymore".

No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more phone calls just to chat, no more "just one minute."

Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes away, never to return before we can say good-bye, say "I love you."

So while we have it, it's best we love it, care for it, fix it when it's broken and heal it when it's sick.

This is true for marriage.....And old cars... And children with bad report cards, and dogs with bad hips, and aging parents and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.

Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a sister-in-law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no matter what.

Life is important, like people we know who are special, like my dear friends here on TWINO, even you francis... And so, we keep them close!

Suppose one morning you never wake up, do all your friends know you love them?

Important thing is to let every one of your friends know you love them, even if you think they don't love you back.

And just in case I'm gone tomorrow...

Remember this my friend...

Please vote against Obama and all the other wall street owned incumbents...
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#281334 Jul 4, 2012
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...

What You Need to Succeed is Sincerity, And If You Can Fake Sincerity You've Got It Made.(Old Hollywood axiom)

By William Blum (Contd.)

The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What's the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain? Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years?... on and on, round and round it goes, for decades. Every once in a while someone opposed to immigration will make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants.

But the counter-argument to the last is almost never mentioned: Yes, the United States does have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping situations in their homelands made hopeless by American interventions and policy. In Guatemala and Nicaragua Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty. In El Salvador the US played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government, and to a lesser extent played such a role in Honduras. And in Mexico, although Washington has not intervened militarily in Mexico since 1919, over the years the US has been providing training, arms, and surveillance technology to Mexico's police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people's aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the impoverished to the United States. Moreover, Washington's North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized US agricultural products into Mexico and driven many Mexican farmers off the land.

The end result of all these policies has been an army of migrants heading north in search of a better life. It's not that these people prefer to live in the United States. They'd much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and right-wingers.
Counterpunch

Several readers have asked me why Counterpunch, one of the most important progressive websites, no longer runs this report. It's been going on for about six months. Awhile ago I wrote to the two gentlemen who run the site, asking what happened. Neither one answered. It's a big mystery, particularly since I seemed to be on very friendly terms with them. Any reader who shares my concern can feel free to contact the editors; perhaps you'll have more luck than I did. counterpunch@counterpunch.org
Notes
1. Washington Post, March 5, 1987
2. Associated Press, December 12, 2006
3. President Ahmadinejad Delivers Remarks at Columbia University, Transcript, Washington Post, September 24, 2007
4. Remarks by the President at AIPAC Policy Conference, White House Office of the Press Secretary, March 4, 2012
5. Washington Post, March 3, 2008
6. The Pentagon v. Peak Oil, TomDispatch.com , June 14, 2007
7. Los Angeles Times, June 18, 1990


William Blum is the author of:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War 2

Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
West-Bloc Dissident: A Cold War Memoir
Freeing the World to Death: Essays on the American Empire

Portions of the books can be read, and signed copies purchased, at www.killinghope.org
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#281335 Jul 4, 2012
John_PA wrote:
<quoted text>As the Channel 10 news guy would say" don't drink a fifth on the forth so you come forth on the fifth
You people consider your country as the center of the Universe so to say and are under false pretense that even your slang s are universally recognizable.

It is not so my dear sir, it is not the way things are.
Roberts American Hero

France

#281336 Jul 4, 2012
So is Chief Justice John Roberts an American Hero?

In the face of the ultra-polarized American polity, Chief Justice Roberts humbly reached across the aisle, giving more than he got, in an effort to begin a process of healing in American politics.

Yet the American conservative right reacted predictably, with hate and vitriol. From those who called for his impeachment, to those who called Roberts a traitor, most conservatives were appalled Roberts did not "go along" and gut the Affordable Care Act, also known as "Obamacare."

But Roberts crossed over to "the other side," and stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the liberal contingent on the Supreme Court. Proudly, Roberts upheld the Affordable Care Act which promises probably 30 million Americans health insurance who do not already have it.

Yes, Chief Justice John Roberts is an American Hero. Standing tall for the good of the poor and downtrodden Americans lacking in the human dignity of guaranteed medical care, this brave American risked his reputation and honor among his fellow right-wing haters for the good of the masses.

Probably, he knew that guaranteed health care for millions was the "right thing to do," rather than deny millions guaranteed health insurance. What sort of hateful, monstrous human being would purposely want millions of poor Americans to lack basic health insurance? Apparently, perhaps nearly half of the American voting public, those who vote Republican, seek to deny others this basic human dignity.

Chief Justice Roberts may return to his former place as a right-wing cudgel, next term of court. But for today, for this week, this month, this season, Chief Justice John Roberts of the United States Supreme Court stands as a genuine American Hero, a courageous fighter for those on the bottom of American society, those without health insurance or guaranteed health care. Hooray, John Roberts, American Hero!
Roberts American Hero

France

#281337 Jul 4, 2012
ABs wrote:
<quoted text>
Touching story my dear friend francis...
One day a woman's husband died, and on that clear, cold morning, in the warmth of their bedroom, the wife was struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't "anymore".
No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more phone calls just to chat, no more "just one minute."
Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes away, never to return before we can say good-bye, say "I love you."
So while we have it, it's best we love it, care for it, fix it when it's broken and heal it when it's sick.
This is true for marriage.....And old cars... And children with bad report cards, and dogs with bad hips, and aging parents and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it.
Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a sister-in-law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no matter what.
Life is important, like people we know who are special, like my dear friends here on TWINO, even you francis... And so, we keep them close!
Suppose one morning you never wake up, do all your friends know you love them?
Important thing is to let every one of your friends know you love them, even if you think they don't love you back.
And just in case I'm gone tomorrow...
Remember this my friend...
Please vote against Obama and all the other wall street owned incumbents...
Romney is for certain a Wall Streeter, what with a Harvard MBA and having worked as CEO of Bain Capital.

ABs, just who do you suggest voting for for US president? If Obama and Romney are both Wall Street hacks, who is left to vote for?
French Resistance

France

#281338 Jul 5, 2012
Check it out, the Nazis are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!

German Neo-Nazi National Socialist Underground Case Brings Spy Agency Shake-Up
--http://www.huffingtonpost.co m/2012/07/04/german-neo-nazi-n ational-socialist-underground_ n_1649667.html

And just think how many posters to this forum scoff at the notion that Nazis still lurk around the world.

In Germany, no less, operated the National Socialist (NAZI) Underground, which assassinated many people and robbed banks to fund its nefarious aims. Those Germans just can't let that right-wing militarism go, now, can they? Sound like a bunch of American Republicans, now, don't they?

ABs, I bet you are all busted up over your Nazi friends getting busted over in Germany.

Just think, they killed dark-skinned Turks. Those Nazis, even the Republican ones in America, just hate dark-skinned people, now, don't they, ABs?

Hell, the Nazis and the American Republicans seem to hate lots and lots of folks.

Currently, in the United States, the "groups to hate" according to conservative, Republican ideology are women, immigrants (particularly Hispanic ones from Mexico and Central America), and as always, African-Americans. Naturally, gays and lesbians are always hated by conservatives, along with the poor.

Note how American Republicans currently are engaging in a "hate-fest" against the American poor who have no health insurance?

I wish the Republican Party of America would go ahead and put a swastika on that elephant. Then, change the name of the party to the Nazi Republican Party of America. Perhaps the GOP could even re-institute the Nazi "sieg heil" Roman salute, which they could use at the upcoming Nazi Republican national convention in Tampa Bay, Florida. I, for one, would also like to see the Nazi Republicans goose-step march into the convention center, while intermittently raising their right arms in the Roman salute.

In a way, the Nazi Republicans are adorable, aren't they? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
French Resistance

France

#281339 Jul 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You people consider your country as the center of the Universe so to say and are under false pretense that even your slang s are universally recognizable.
It is not so my dear sir, it is not the way things are.
MUQ, you are a medical doctor, aren't you?

You are a Pakistani Muslim medical doctor, practicing medicine in
Saudi Arabia, correct?

Your command of English is impeccable. I have a lot of experience with persons from Pakistan with various advanced degrees. As a matter of fact, I have never met a person from Pakistan who was not at least a Ph. D. candidate, or who did not hold a J.D. or M.D.

I am impressed with your intelligence and acumen, and wish you the very best in your endeavors. I am proud that you choose to make The War Is Not Over your Topix home, because intelligent discourse is desired here on this forum, and you deliver.

Thanks, Dr. MUQ.
courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281340 Jul 5, 2012
Reinhard Gehlen wrote:
<quoted text>What country do you think has been rileing Europe and other nations feathers over the last century? The God-damned USofA!
Yes we did help rile Adolphs feathers a bit,,,you would have preferred not,, I suppose..
Marshall plan funds certainly feathered some euro nests.
What do you suppose the US did to make the euros proclaim multiculturalism a failure?
courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281341 Jul 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
You people consider your country as the center of the Universe so to say and are under false pretense that even your slang s are universally recognizable.
It is not so my dear sir, it is not the way things are.
Hi Muq

The 4th

is independence day.

Here in the peaceful US...invaded only a few times in the last century and a half.

1941 and 2001

Now what was this vow you mentioned, was it with Japan?
courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281342 Jul 5, 2012
frank wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the investigation, Agents never saw, touched, funded, or purchased the guns found at the Terry murder scene. Not only that but Arizona’s lax gun laws (it’s like buying a sandwich) also made it impossible to prosecute the 31 men identified by ATF agents as suspected straw purchasers for the Sinaloa drug cartel.
Darrell Issa represents gun manufacturing. When agent Terry got killed he knew there would be a call to stop all guns from crossing the border into Mexico. But the Mexican cartels are the largest purchaser of US made guns. So Issa deliberately concocted and set up the gun scandal. And look how effectively the scam worked. Guns are still flowing freely and legally into Mexico. There is no call for gun control. He embarrassed the president, diminished Holder’s ability to investigate his leaks and GOP election fraud, made a name for himself, and walked away a richer man. That guy is master criminal.
buying a sandwich??? b bu but what about federal gun laws??

nics for example
courteous europhobe

Bangor, ME

#281343 Jul 5, 2012
Every American owes a debt of thanks to our forefathers who had the courage to secure liberty through the force of arms and then saw fit to enshrine the right to arms in our Constitution, thus securing liberty by forcing government to look over its shoulder at an armed populace.

Guns were definitely part of the celebration in the Founders’ time. Since it’s unwise to fire into the air, as they did on the first news of the Declaration, we encourage taking the celebration to the nearest range or safe shooting area. We also encourage shooters to take the opportunity to introduce friends, family and coworkers to the fun and excitement of safe and responsible target shooting.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#281344 Jul 5, 2012
French Resistance wrote:
Check it out, the Nazis are baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!
German Neo-Nazi National Socialist Underground Case Brings Spy Agency Shake-Up
--http://www.huffingtonpost.co m/2012/07/04/german-neo-nazi-n ational-socialist-underground_ n_1649667.html
And just think how many posters to this forum scoff at the notion that Nazis still lurk around the world.
In Germany, no less, operated the National Socialist (NAZI) Underground, which assassinated many people and robbed banks to fund its nefarious aims. Those Germans just can't let that right-wing militarism go, now, can they? Sound like a bunch of American Republicans, now, don't they?
ABs, I bet you are all busted up over your Nazi friends getting busted over in Germany.
Just think, they killed dark-skinned Turks. Those Nazis, even the Republican ones in America, just hate dark-skinned people, now, don't they, ABs?
Hell, the Nazis and the American Republicans seem to hate lots and lots of folks.
Currently, in the United States, the "groups to hate" according to conservative, Republican ideology are women, immigrants (particularly Hispanic ones from Mexico and Central America), and as always, African-Americans. Naturally, gays and lesbians are always hated by conservatives, along with the poor.
Note how American Republicans currently are engaging in a "hate-fest" against the American poor who have no health insurance?
I wish the Republican Party of America would go ahead and put a swastika on that elephant. Then, change the name of the party to the Nazi Republican Party of America. Perhaps the GOP could even re-institute the Nazi "sieg heil" Roman salute, which they could use at the upcoming Nazi Republican national convention in Tampa Bay, Florida. I, for one, would also like to see the Nazi Republicans goose-step march into the convention center, while intermittently raising their right arms in the Roman salute.
In a way, the Nazi Republicans are adorable, aren't they? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
For every person claiming the Republicans are Nazis there is another claiming Democrats are socialist. As bad as the Nazis were, the communist were worse, killing more people than all the Fascist, all the Democracies and all the religious nut jobs combined.
Republicans don’t hate anybody. They love their country but don’t trust their government—not because they think their government is evil, but because they know it (and all governments) are at best incompetent. We know the government doesn’t make money and everything it has was confiscated from someone else. We have over 313 million legal citizens and maybe 20 million more illegal. People can either be free or they can be equal, they can’t be both. We want to be free.
Governing 330+million people is a daunting task, providing every one of them with what they feel they need is an impossible task even for a government 10 times the size of the one we have. When the government begins to use the peoples assets to buy the peoples votes eventually it will run out of assets to seize and collapse. Republicans don’t want that to happen and apparently Democrats don’t care if it does.
frank

Oakland, CA

#281345 Jul 5, 2012
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text>buying a sandwich??? b bu but what about federal gun laws??
nics for example
Darrell Issa has accused the Obama administration as “the most corrupt” in history! This coming from a known felon and habitual liar – Issa has been arrested twice, ones for grand theft auto of a Maserati and ones for illegal possession of a fire arm while driving down a one-way street. He also lied about his military unit providing security for President Richard Nixon, sweeping stadiums for bombs prior to games in the 1971 World Series, and that he received the highest approval ratings during his service. However, a 1998 investigation by the SF Examiner found these claims were not true, since Nixon had not attended any of that year's World Series games. The investigation also discovered that Issa was actually transferred to a supply depot after he received an unsatisfactory evaluation.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#281346 Jul 5, 2012
MUQ wrote:
News you will not see or hear on CNN and FOX News
The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What's the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain? Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years?... on and on, round and round it goes, for decades. Every once in a while someone opposed to immigration will make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants.
But the counter-argument to the last is almost never mentioned: Yes, the United States does have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping situations in their homelands made hopeless by American interventions and policy. In Guatemala and Nicaragua Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty. In El Salvador the US played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government, and to a lesser extent played such a role in Honduras. And in Mexico, although Washington has not intervened militarily in Mexico since 1919, over the years the US has been providing training, arms, and surveillance technology to Mexico's police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people's aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the impoverished to the United States. Moreover, Washington's North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized US agricultural products into Mexico and driven many Mexican farmers off the land.
The end result of all these policies has been an army of migrants heading north in search of a better life. It's not that these people prefer to live in the United States. They'd much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and right-wingers.
Counterpunch
Several readers have asked me why Counterpunch, one of the most important progressive websites, no longer runs this report. It's been going on for about six months. Awhile ago I wrote to the two gentlemen who run the site, asking what happened. Neither one answered. It's a big mystery, particularly since I seemed to be on very friendly terms with them. Any reader who shares my concern can feel free to contact the editors; perhaps you'll have more luck than I did. counterpunch@counterpunch.org
There is and always has been political instability throughout the Latin world. Not only in the Americas, but in Spain and Italy as well. You would need to be a card carrying “Blame America First” member to fault the US for the many revolutions, the corruption, the poverty, the political instability and extremisms of Latin politics. If the US never existed, it would make little difference to the lives of the millions living below the Rio Grande. The fact that the US does exist and has been used as an illegal dumping ground for much of Latin America’s poor has reduced the pressure on many of those countries to fix their social ills.
We have fought two wars with Canada yet we now share the longest demilitarized border in the world. We have worked as closely with Canada as any country in the world, yet they don’t have the same problems as Mexico or the rest of Latin America. Maybe the US isn’t at fault.

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