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#83
May 10, 2008
 
I will never, ever vote Republican again - I don't care what a war hero McCain is - I CAN NOT AFFORD another Republican administration - Bush ruined this country in less than 8 years.
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#84
May 11, 2008
 
kathy wrote:
Wexler wants to introduce Obama to Jews? OK. Preface that intro with Obama's friendship list of terrorists, crooks, radicals, racists, including Rev Wright. Let the Jewish folks see the shared Wright values Obama cherished for over 20 years, despite his now convenient political denials. That should go over really well. The more we find out about Obama, the less there is to like -- unless you are black, of course, and the black vote hovers at 91% Obama vote in NC & 91% for his last win before NC. Seems the dark faces just want another dark face, no matter how little he accomplished or whom he associates with or who he really is.
Well, that's consistent with what you are saying. It's all about convenience and achieving a goal regardless of the means. You will see more and more of Lieberman sucking up to McCain, as well. When society stops long enough to realize that it's not politician who run this country, then real change will happen. It's lobbyists and the individuals/institutions who control access to capital (money) that are the driving force behind the decision-making process, not Democrats or Republicans. Politicians are little more than hood ornaments on the front of an automobile these days.
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#85
May 12, 2008
 
The delegates must have the right to determine the nominee. Obama has been against Florida's delegates being counted. He promised now they will be counted, which means Hillary must be at the convention to have a fair vote. The delegates needed are 2,209, when Florida and Michigan are counted.

Obama's publicity has had Hillary losing since Iowa. He and his surrogates kept telling everyone false information and false statistics to make them think it was over. People should recognize hype when they see and hear it. The real world isn't Hollywood.

It should go to the convention. Maybe we'll have a compromise candidate. Who knows?
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#86
May 12, 2008
 
The delegates should remain 2,209 as it was in the beginning. That number will be determined at the convention.
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May 12, 2008
 
DKR wrote:
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Yeah, sure do and it isn't pretty. In 2000 and 2004, the vote was all but taken away by questionable voting practices...hey, it took months to settle the 2000 election and it took the Supreme Court to finally call the question.
Your reference to "whining" is rather offensive and it showcases your opinion about the matter. You're obviously a Republican...no harm no foul..but can you REALLY say that you....and this country...are better off now than we were 7 years ago? The answer is a resounding "NO!"
A lot has changed on the world stage having nothing to do with Republicans, or Americans for that matter. Democrats would have been much worse for this country. In fact, it was Al Gore that divided this country by putting the idea that the election was stolen into people with simple little minds.

My suggestion is to look at what is happening in your own party right now, and realize that it is a microcosm of what is to come, completely caused by Democrats.

A party of lawyers will do nothing good for this country.
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#88
May 12, 2008
 
Eileen wrote:
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I don't the Democrats ever "whining" about the election being stolen in 2000. It was a fact that should have been pursued until properly resolved. That has been the gravest mistake our country has made in a long time.
If you were aware of the methods used by the Rove machine to influence the Mexican election (power outages), you would understand why the power outages in Ohio on election day were suspicious, to say the least.
Lastly, the Republican government in Florida made the decision to move the primaries (shocking), regardless of the impact on the Florida Democratic voters. Hmmmm...I wonder why the Democrats are a bit suspicious of everything that comes out of a Republicans mouth. How do ya tell they're lying - they're mouths are moving.
Help yourself to the Kool Aid. Evidently it's flowing freely on the left...
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May 12, 2008
 
GetOurOwnOil wrote:
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Excellent Post my friend!
U see not too many of the Dems realized that they were "shot in the head", so to speak, by their own!
Oh and let's not forget that the vote on this bill introduced by Rep. King was voted unanimously by every Fl Democrat. Two person voted against it - they were REPUBLICANS!
Republicans had the foresight not to completely disenfranchise a pivotol state like FL because they know in the General Elections, Florida is key! Dems are incapable to look that far ahead and always want to change the rules mid-stream when they see their short-sighted decisions come back to bite them in the rear!
Good job pointing that out Temple Raiders!
The history will be rewritten by the Democrats to somehow blame the Republicans for it. Count on it.

You are dealing with a group of people that yammered on and on about how one party shouldn't be in complete control, yet now they are trying to elect a Democrat to have complete control.

Not the brightest bunch...
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#90
May 12, 2008
 
Now that it doesn't matter, Obama wants our delegates to count. All the while he has been blocking the counting of our delegates and also blocking a re-vote. Now, he is on his way to Florida - to fundraise, no doubt. Let's make this perfectly clear. If Florida's and Michigan's votes had been counted when they should have been, the nominee would be Hillary Clinton.
By disenfranchising Florida and Michigan voters, the Democratic Party manipulated the Primary process to stuff in their own candidate - Obama. He lost the primary to HIllary Clinton and cried about it. He refused to allow our votes to be counted (since he lost the first time) and he also blocked a re-vote. His supporters among our Congressional delegation also blocked a re-vote and did nothing to see that our primary votes counted.
Obama is the nominee because Florida's and Michigan's voters were disenfranchised. No Florida voter should vote for Obama. He allowed (encouraged) the Democratic process to be subverted in a Democracy. Vote for John McCain or sit home if you have to.
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#91
May 12, 2008
 
If we the people don't vote Hillary we are going to be living in hell for the next 4 years.
We are going to be living like a 3rd world country,

Obama and McCain don't have a clue how to run this Country.
If you are not poor yet, you will be with Obama or McCain, think about it

VOTE HILLARY
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#92
May 14, 2008
 
No matter how you feel about Barak H. Obama, he is NOT a Muslim, he is a Christian.
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May 14, 2008
 
lab-rat wrote:
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A lot has changed on the world stage having nothing to do with Republicans, or Americans for that matter. Democrats would have been much worse for this country. In fact, it was Al Gore that divided this country by putting the idea that the election was stolen into people with simple little minds.
My suggestion is to look at what is happening in your own party right now, and realize that it is a microcosm of what is to come, completely caused by Democrats.
A party of lawyers will do nothing good for this country.
It is true that much that has happened in the world stage happened no matter what our input might have been. But I disagree with your point that a Dem would have made our position worse off than what it is right now. For starters, it's not likely we would have participated in this immoral war in Iraq, which continues to cost billions. Your great-grandchildren will be carrying that debt load. How do you feel about having that monkey on your kids' back?

Al Gore was accurate...the election WAS taken away from him. This has nothing to do with your characterization of "simple little minds".(A variation on the ususal theme of your characterizations of those who think more liberally than you, I've noticed) Had we been able to count all the votes, the result would have been different.

We have no way of knowing if we would have fared worse or even how differently things would have played out if Gore were placed in the White House instead of Dumbya. Consequently, your statement about how worse off we weould be is pure speculation and opinion, NOT fact.

I am personally disappointed with how things have played out in the Democratic run-up to the nomination. My vote was not counted, nor did the candidate for which I voted make the cut. I would vote for McCain because of his experience but he IS quite old, perhaps too old for the rigors of the Presidency. His temper is legendary and we have no way of knowing how the stresses of the job will affect his long-term mental stability, given what he went through as a POW. Furthermore, I cannot stomach the Republican social agenda and its pandering to the christian right. I am less-than enthralled with any of my choices, but come November I will vote for the candidate that best espouses MY vision of how America should become. It will take more than one additional administration (which is likely to prove to be a very unpopular one), to clean up the mess that the past administrations' decisions have gotten us into.
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#94
May 14, 2008
 
"M-O-N-K-E-Y" was asterisked in my previous post. Go figure.
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#95
May 15, 2008
 
Some people say if Hillary does not make it.
They will vote for McCain or stay home.
If Obama is not president yet, look at the mess he is makeing already of this State.
Now it's Obama and Edwards or shall I say dumb and dumber.
Two Rookies running the State, this is a joke.
And no one is laughing.
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#96
May 15, 2008
 
WON or ONE wrote:
Hillary or Obama...CHANGE comes with either of them. We need change. We need to recover from the past eight years. Vote for McCain and we will have four more years of what we have now.
Now is the time for ALL votes to be counted. Please put race and religion on the sidelines and hope for what is best for all of us. We deserve the best and unfortunately we do not have that now. But we could!
Change??? I thought thats we we got in 2006 with the first 100 hours??? What a JOKE!!!! What have the Democratic controlled Congress done??? NOTHING!!!! Have they done anything about gas prices??? NOPE! WHAT HAVE THEY DONE PLEASE TELL ME???? We need to keep our country safe!! They are people who wont ti kill Americans!! Thats you and me!! Thats all they care about to kill us.
Remember its got to go threw Congress before it goes to the President and becomes Law..
WHAT HAS THE CONGRESS DONE TO HELP US?????
Thats the question???
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May 15, 2008
 
DKR wrote:
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It is true that much that has happened in the world stage happened no matter what our input might have been. But I disagree with your point that a Dem would have made our position worse off than what it is right now. For starters, it's not likely we would have participated in this immoral war in Iraq, which continues to cost billions. Your great-grandchildren will be carrying that debt load. How do you feel about having that monkey on your kids' back?
Al Gore was accurate...the election WAS taken away from him. This has nothing to do with your characterization of "simple little minds".(A variation on the ususal theme of your characterizations of those who think more liberally than you, I've noticed) Had we been able to count all the votes, the result would have been different.
We have no way of knowing if we would have fared worse or even how differently things would have played out if Gore were placed in the White House instead of Dumbya. Consequently, your statement about how worse off we weould be is pure speculation and opinion, NOT fact.
I am personally disappointed with how things have played out in the Democratic run-up to the nomination. My vote was not counted, nor did the candidate for which I voted make the cut. I would vote for McCain because of his experience but he IS quite old, perhaps too old for the rigors of the Presidency. His temper is legendary and we have no way of knowing how the stresses of the job will affect his long-term mental stability, given what he went through as a POW. Furthermore, I cannot stomach the Republican social agenda and its pandering to the christian right. I am less-than enthralled with any of my choices, but come November I will vote for the candidate that best espouses MY vision of how America should become. It will take more than one additional administration (which is likely to prove to be a very unpopular one), to clean up the mess that the past administrations' decisions have gotten us into.
Things has gotten bad since the 2006 Congress took over!!!!!!!!!! Thats the Dems thats got us in such a mess !! By not doing NOTHING!!!!!
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#98
May 15, 2008
 
Pastor Wright wrote:
Some people say if Hillary does not make it.
They will vote for McCain or stay home.
If Obama is not president yet, look at the mess he is makeing already of this State.
Now it's Obama and Edwards or shall I say dumb and dumber.
Two Rookies running the State, this is a joke.
And no one is laughing.

So true REV.. Why cant people see that???

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May 15, 2008
 
The Jewish Community need to know the truth about "Hillary Backers!" ~ My Jewish's Friends in Dallas, TX Support Senator Obama.~~~
African Americans (BACK DOOR SUPPORTERS) of Hillary and Bill Clinton.
Rev. Al Sharpton ~ Rev. Wright ~ NAACP President J Bonds ~ Louise Farrakhan~ Travis Smiley ~ Mr.(Bet) Johnson
and their are many more......

J. C. Watts a Black Republican speaks ~ Colleague and Friend of Drevelyn Minor ~ The statement below was written by: J. C. Watts a Black Republican and I bet you he has solid information on what he has chosen to share with the public.~~~~
J.C. Watts is a rare breed, a black Republican, the first elected from a southern state in over 120 years. Instead of joining the Congressional Black Caucus (obviously primarily Democratic in nature), he was chosen chair of the House Republican Conference (1998). Since retiring from Congress he has headed J.C. Watts Companies, a consultant in business strategies, and is active on several corporate boards.~~~~~~~~~
I must add this; the Republican Party Members (White Men) clearly demonstrated their racist acts toward this young Black Man. He was too young to retire on his on….~~~~~~
Mr. Watts Wrote:~~Ed Rendell, the state's Democrat governor and the very effective spokesman for Clinton's campaign there, generously praised Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam 11 years ago. This is an issue because for so many people, Farrakhan is poisonous. It is safe to say his tone makes many voters nervous. Rendell, who was then the mayor of Philadelphia, praised Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam's Philadelphia leadership at a rally in 1997. He expressed his "respect for the nation of Islam" and praised local Islam leader Rodney Mohammed for "the intensity of his beliefs, for the decency of his soul, and for the strength of his courage." ~~ Through her relationship with Rendell, Clinton and her team have as close -- or closer -- a tie to Farrakhan as does Obama.~~However, it was Obama who got tied to the Farrakhan wagon, and not Clinton. She got a pass. I found it interesting that Rendell was not asked to distance himself from Farrakhan or the Nation of Islam in order to support Clinton.~~ Nor should he have been asked to. Clinton was not asked to distance herself from Rendell for his praising of Farrakhan, and the notion was never raised by the media or anyone else.~~ We often read columns, watch the news and listen to debates with our own biased political filter. Republicans and Democrats alike are guilty of this. We usually don't like the comments made by an analyst unless they lean toward our point of view. As is said in politics, there are three sides to every story.~~ Your side, my side, and the truth.~~~ In the case of the tangled web between Obama, Clinton and Farrakhan, we didn't get Obama's side or the truth. We got Clinton's side.~~~~~ The bottom line is this: Neither Louis Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright should determine this election, no more than certain endorsements of John McCain should determine the general election.~~~~~I am more concerned about who can keep America safe from terrorists, who can create opportunity for all, who has the best plan for educating our kids (1.2 million kids drop out of school every year), and who best understands that real change doesn't require just talk, but real, genuine change.~~~~~~
Hillary Clinton and Farrakhan Positive Relationship ~ it appears in the African American Communities that Louis Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright are “BACK DOOR SUPPORTERS” of Hillary Clinton.~~~~~~~
White Americans I pray you will "WAKE UP" and see the games the Clintons are playing with you ~ it's shameful!~~~~~~~ It’s all about money and control..~~~~~~~
Note: Hillary and Billy Clinton wishes to get back in office "By Any Means Necessary."
That makes me nervous!~~~~~~
Drevelyn “D” Minor is voting for Senator Obama!~~

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May 15, 2008
 
Coral Springs wrote:
I will never, ever vote Republican again - I don't care what a war hero McCain is - I CAN NOT AFFORD another Republican administration - Bush ruined this country in less than 8 years.
"Coral Springs" You said, "I CAN NOT AFFORD another Republican administration - Bush ruined this country in less than 8 years." ~~~~~~

Please do not give up!~ you and I and many more American Citizens that wishes for change in our government must never give up. There are many American Citizens who are not able to speak for themselves and you and I and others must press on.~~~~~

I can tell you care about your country ~~~~

We have to keep trying to place someone in office thats clearly represents the people some unselfish candidate that is not about making deals, having power, winning elections by FRAUDULENT VOTERS!~~~~~~~~

The question is:~~ what has the present Bush and past Clinton Administration done for the country?~~~~

I pray that you keep focus for these reasons, you can not give up:~~~~~~~

1. War is going on ~~
2. The economy is busted ~~
3. We cannot afford gas ~~
4. Jobs going, going, gone ~~
5. We have had 8 years of a so called Christian who has bombed the Middle East.~~
6. Turned a blind eye on POVERTY and HUNGER in the United States.~~
7. Cares absolutely not about the environment ~~
8. Misused our tax dollars in Iraq.~~
9. Will not allow the deceased soldiers to arrive in Washington draped in the flag for all to see.~~
10. Betrayed the citizens of New Orleans.~~
11. Cut veteran benefits, etc.~~
12. Our debt is a disgrace.~~
13. And out children, grandchildren, etc., will be the ones who inherit this mess.~~~~~~

I am fed up with politics as usual in this country.~~~

May God Be With You Always~~~~

Obama for President!
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#101
May 15, 2008
 
Yep wrote:
Here's what the Jews don't want you to know...
Here is the link for those that do not know theyre being screwed
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Here is a link that expresses concern about the kosher tax
http://www.samliquidation.com/baal_tax.htm
You are so right about the dangers Jews pose to America. But when Obama wins their power will too.
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May 16, 2008
 
Coral Springs wrote:
I will never, ever vote Republican again - I don't care what a war hero McCain is - I CAN NOT AFFORD another Republican administration - Bush ruined this country in less than 8 years.
2005 we was ok 2006 when the Dems took control of the House and Senate is when it got ruined!!
Tell me what has the Dems done to fix anything?????????? ANYTHING.... ONE THING...???...
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