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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Patrick wrote: <quoted text>Carey, so Tithing doesn't bother you.. Yes they are voluntary but when you don't pay what does the LDS do to you? They make you feel guilty to the point you have to pay. The way they make it sound is that if you don't pay you won't make it to your own planet and in church terms that's like jail for you but in reality it's all bullshit..
Now, you talk about squander money. For starters taxes are away of life.. I take it that you don't have the concept knowledge of the fact and it is a fact and not propaganda like your church has taught you that word but your religion has extorted 40 million dollars to take away rights from American's due to the fact that they disagree with a person lifestyle. Tell you the truth, it's none of the LDS's business how I live my life and I don't need your fucked up bullshit religion telling me who I can marry. This is America and I have a free right to live my life and I don't appicate making me live my life by their bullshit beliefs.. You really need to take the time and educate yourself and you can start by watching the movie 8 The Mormon Proposition
Now, let's talk about shelters .. That link you posted didn't even mention helping the gay homeless. When you ignorant parents like yourself throws your flesh and blood on the street just for the person they are (Gay) SHAME ON YOU. Your fucked up religion tells gay's that they are not worthly and they need to change before they are loved is bullshit.. Those kids and I do means kids take that literally to the point that no one loves them and the only way out is to committed suicide. You all need to learn the true definition of the word "LOVE" because all I see is a bullshit religion and adults and I do mean adults that are to stupid to see the real meaning in life.. So Carey, when NoMo tells you that this is happening once a week, do you know what she means or are you just to ignorant to realize the truth.. What I need to educate you on is that Utah has one a week attempts of a gay attempting suicide due to your bullshit religion and Thomas Monson and the other top leaders of the LDS needs to face punishment of their sins for every gay LDS member that has died and I mean they need to face prison time.. Seems to me that you have a lot to learn about your own religion. No, tithing does not bother me in the least. But if you do not believe that civil government engages in propaganda, you are truly blind to reality. And again you go on about "rights" that never existed in the first place. This is America and we overwhelmingly believe in traditional marriage, between a man and a woman. I have no issue with civil unions in order to achieve legal parity, but marriage is what it is: A Biblical principle ordained of God. YOU are the one who needs to take the time educate himself. What makes you think that a homeless shelter must advertise it is available to gays? What makes the gay lifestyle so special that it must receive special status? Who cares if you are gay or not if you are homeless? The links that I provided do not mention anywhere that gays must stay away. Again, you inadvertently advertise your agenda, which is NOT simply equal rights, but rights over and above the rest of us. Sorry, but I will never support that. Get over it. If you are wondering if I somehow care about gay suicide over and above suicide as a whole? Sorry, but I do not. Suicide is suicide, and NOTHING warrants taking one's own life, period. I believe that suicide is entirely the result of INTERNAL psychological struggles, not outside influences. You don't have to like it, and you don't have to agree with me, but that doesn't change what I believe. Once again, you want special circumstances for gays over and above what the rest of us should expect, and I will never support that.
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“Too much LDS in the 60's”
Since: Sep 10
Merced, CA
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>
I suppose you will teach them to "love" and "accept" everyone by having them read your posts here?
I suppose you are going to teach them your foul mouth as well?
Believe me, you are not doing them a service.
By reading your words, it is apparent that members of the most any church are taught more love and respect in a month than you apparently have learned in an entire lifetime. You wouldn't know this, because your per-conceived bigotry, intolerance, and outright hatred have clouded your view. I'm willing to bet the LDS church earned the intolerance and outright hatred here. Of course you'll be in denial about it. Your church isn't as wonderful as you wish it was.
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livinginthelando fcrazy
Branson, MO
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Patrick wrote: <quoted text>Like what, you really need to ask me that... The LDS is bullshit and it's sad that you can't see that. I would never have my kids learn to hate for starters. I would never send my kids to be judged by a but of idiots that don't know shit and what sad is that you can't comprehend that the LDS is a business to take your money.. My kids are going to be taught to love and except everyone for who they are and not try to change them for some fucked up religion.. Tell me, are you proud to know that your life is a lie and based on bullshit. My life is so full filled with love and care from family and friends and it's true. The the bullshit we love all from the LDS. Yeah they love you if you walk in their foot steps.. It's not to late to educate your but what are feel bad is that your allowing these idiots to fuck up your children like they have fucked up you.. Why don't you educate yourself and learn the difference between "to" and "too," and "accept" and "except"? "but of idiots"??? Really??? Go back to school and pay attention this time.
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“Too much LDS in the 60's”
Since: Sep 10
Merced, CA
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>
I suppose you are going to teach them your foul mouth as well?
Believe me, you are not doing them a service. A foul religious faith is far worst than any foul mouth. Raising kids in the LDS church isn't doing them any service either.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Furthermore, folks who are constantly looking to blame everyone and everything for their own personal circumstances will not receive any sympathy from me in that regard. Gays have no more reason to kill themselves, if they believe they are correct in their lifestyle, than anyone else. Every person, as an individual, has the right to live the way they want to live, but they'd better come to terms with the consequences and be able to overcome the reality of their actions. You keep focusing on just Utah..but what about gay suicide in other states? Or other nations? It exists just the same, and you don't have your cut and dried scapegoats laid out for you there. Or is it that only suicides in Utah matter to you?
I contend that it is not any outside influence, but the gay lifestyle itself, that is contributing to gay suicide everywhere. If gays were able to find love and acceptance among each other, instead of kicking EACH OTHER to the curb, perhaps the high suicide rate within the gay community worldwide would be reduced.
I contend that ANY gay person considering suicide, who is willing to discuss their personal troubles honestly and openly with members of clergy, without approaching the issue with your arrogance, preconceived religious bigotry, and outright hatred, WILL, more times than not, find the receptive ear of someone who is willing to help them save their own life.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
I'm willing to bet the LDS church earned the intolerance and outright hatred here. Of course you'll be in denial about it. Your church isn't as wonderful as you wish it was. You would be wrong, of course. The Church of Jesus Christ IS indeed wonderful. That you do not accept that is your problem, not the church's.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
A foul religious faith is far worst than any foul mouth. Raising kids in the LDS church isn't doing them any service either. Supporting people who despise the teachings of Jesus Christ, regardless of denomination, in such foul and hate filled terms, while professing to be Christian him or herself, is foul indeed! Raising kids with the divine teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is doing them the best service possible.
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Bonus hunter
United States
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Curb stomp hater....... Dana is a bigot
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“Too much LDS in the 60's”
Since: Sep 10
Merced, CA
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>
Supporting people who despise the teachings of Jesus Christ, regardless of denomination, in such foul and hate filled terms, while professing to be Christian him or herself, is foul indeed!
Raising kids with the divine teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is doing them the best service possible. Only if you want a child living in fear of a bigoted hateful God who has nothing to do with the God of Bible. If you want children with low self esteem and self worth, the LDS church is the perfect place to take them.
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“Too much LDS in the 60's”
Since: Sep 10
Merced, CA
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>
You would be wrong, of course.
The Church of Jesus Christ IS indeed wonderful. That you do not accept that is your problem, not the church's. Having been a member longer then you have, I would be right. If it is so wonderful and true, why did you marry outside of the church? Don't you believe in following the prophet? O ye of little faith.
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“Too much LDS in the 60's”
Since: Sep 10
Merced, CA
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Cary L Nickel wrote: Furthermore, folks who are constantly looking to blame everyone and everything for their own personal circumstances will not receive any sympathy from me in that regard. That is at least honest. You don't care about anything or anybody but yourself. Just as long as you can pretend the church is true, all is well. Pathetic.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
Only if you want a child living in fear of a bigoted hateful God who has nothing to do with the God of Bible. If you want children with low self esteem and self worth, the LDS church is the perfect place to take them. You are quite incorrect yet again. LDS children, by and large, are far more secure, have high self-esteem and self-worth, considerably more than children of other faiths, or those who are raised with no biblical foundation at all. Projecting how you, personally, feel about yourself upon and entire worldwide church is a cop out. If you are to be believed, your personal feelings of low self worth are the result of your father, not the church as a whole.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
Having been a member longer then you have, I would be right. If it is so wonderful and true, why did you marry outside of the church? Don't you believe in following the prophet? O ye of little faith. You are not one to judge how one follows the Prophet, being that you proudly express your hatred and bigotry towards the Church of Jesus Christ. You see, your issues are entirely personal in nature, and have nothing at all to do with the Church as a whole. Until you address them in your own life, you will only be able to find some semblance of satisfaction in expressing your bitterness towards others. You've been urged to seek help, but you've clearly stated your refusal. Thus, your problems remain entirely your own.
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Since: May 10
Farmington, New Mexico
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
That is at least honest. You don't care about anything or anybody but yourself. Just as long as you can pretend the church is true, all is well. Pathetic. No. I simply do not care to invest my time and energy into people who do not care enough about themselves to take action on their own behalf. The Church is indeed true, I know that to be fact. What is pathetic is that you have chosen to trade your personal salvation for supporting people who have no regard for YOUR faith, if your faith is indeed based upon any semblance of God and the Bible. The same people who feel they must attack the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints today will turn on you as well in the end, unless they can fully convince you to forgo what little faith you have remaining. So again, you problem is not with me. It is entirely with yourself, and your inability to discern what is staring you right in the face.
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Haw Haw
Chicago, IL
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>
The Church is indeed true, I know that to be fact. Then put your money where your mouth is and PROVE IT. No feelings, just logic and evidence. For example, you could start by addressing any of the following: * PROVE that the ancients were worshiping just as you do today in Joseph Smith's church - PROVE that there was a big apostasy. There surely should be some EVIDENCE of this huge falling away out there for you to share. * PROVE that your "prophets seers and revelators" have the special discerning power that enables them to recognize and root out evil as they claim. Let us know what happened in the case of Mark Hofmann and in the case of the temple excursion mentioned by Richard Packham here: http://packham.n4m.org/templex.htm * PROVE that the book of Abraham was translated correctly from the papyrus that Smith obtained from Chandler. * PROVE that Joseph Smith's First Vision was exactly as the official version is now, and that there were no earlier versions.
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“Good day to you!”
Since: Oct 08
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TheTruth wrote: Mormons do brainwash their kids to believe the cult that hold so dear. Here is the facts.
All of the 18 month – 3 year old nursery children repeat:
“Heavenly Father and Jesus Love Me”
“I Have a Body Like Heavenly Father’s”
“I Will Take Care of My Body”
“I Love My Family”
“I Can Pray With My Family”
“The Book of Mormon Teaches Me about Jesus Christ”
“I Love the Scriptures”
“I Will Follow the Prophet”
“I Will be Baptized and Confirmed”
“Jesus Christ was Resurrected”
On top of that, lesson 13 is entitled “My Family Can Be Together Forever”. That’s all fine and dandy, but wait, there’s more. There is an activity using finger puppets to portray members of a family…how fun! Then there is an activity where the teacher places them all under a blanket and discretely takes one away. When the blanket is removed, the teacher asks which member is missing. Then they put ths missing finger puppet back and explain that Heavenly Father wants families to be together “with no one missing”. It then goes on to say that the game is “especially appropriate for older children”…uh, yeah…Because they can understand (at 3 years old) how scary life would be without some of their family. Plus they understand disappointment and know their family would be disappointed if they were apart. How sad!
This is some crazy, scary, sugar-coated shit! Glad I got my kids outta there while they are still young and the damage is reversable! Hey, why quit while your ahead? Don't forget those active LDS mom and dads also brain wash their kids to do the unthinkable. You know, setting the unthinkable example to be honest, to help others like in volunteering without rewards, like not drinking alcohol, not doing drugs, not smoking cigarettes, being responsible for your decisions, teaching them the ethics of working and financial responsibility, involving themselves in their community, visiting the sick and elderly, treating others as you'd like others to treat you. Yeah, such damage their inflicting on their kids...such a tragedy in the making isn't it. Those kids are just going to grow up and be such worthless homeless gimme, gimme, gimme generations stuck on welfare and other handouts. Terrible people those LDS are :)
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“Good day to you!”
Since: Oct 08
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>
Again, it doesn't matter who believed what, Jesus said that no one was going to be married after the resurrection.
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It was an answer in response to a question about a woman who was married already 4 times to who she will really be married to after the resurrection. He clearly said none. So yes, he did say such a thing.
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No I don't. All I have to point out is that you have never read of a married angel. No, no, no, no. Back up and take a not so literal reading of the verse. You're doing your own injustice for reading the sentence so literally. If we apply your literal translation there, where should we stop using it? Jesus once said... Matthew 18:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. That would LITERALLY mean ANYTHING done which would be called an OFFENSE(see definition)to a child, that parent or person should straight a way commit suicide by drowning themselves, no questions asked, no stopping them. That is what Jesus stated. Jesus also said he brought his message ONLY for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Should we take that literally like you do the verse of marriage and exclude anything else Jesus said of that matter? You apply a scripture by bending it to your meaning. Even if that means taking a verse asininely literal to make such a weak point you'll do it again and again. Next, you need to get a grip on the difference between spirits that are angels and spirits like us that will become "LIKE" ANGELS. IT DOESN'T SAY WE SHALL BECOME ANGELS AFTER DEATH. God used that word "like" in the story of the garden of Eden. Do you remember how he used it? He used it to state that Adam/Eve would become "LIKE" HIM, he didn't say they'd become him. Learn the difference. You plat with word meaning way to much to your own disadvantage.
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livinginthelando fcrazy
West Plains, MO
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Cary L Nickel wrote: <quoted text>Supporting people who despise the teachings of Jesus Christ, regardless of denomination, in such foul and hate filled terms, while professing to be Christian him or herself, is foul indeed!
Raising kids with the divine teachings of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is doing them the best service possible. I would add that it is up to us to conform to our Father in Heaven, not Him to our standards.
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livinginthelando fcrazy
West Plains, MO
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text>Only if you want a child living in fear of a bigoted hateful God who has nothing to do with the God of Bible. If you want children with low self esteem and self worth, the LDS church is the perfect place to take them. I disagree. My children certainly do not suffer from a low self esteem and/or self worth. Quite the opposite. They are very respectful, well adjusted, intelligent, happy, and good kids. You can't, and shouldn't, paint with such broad strokes. It just doesn't work.
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“Good day to you!”
Since: Oct 08
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Dana Robertson wrote: <quoted text> Are you saying you don't believe even your own church's teachings? Do you go to church much? "Paradise is that part of the spirit world in which the righteous spirits who have departed from this life await the resurrection of the body. It is a condition of happiness and peace." http://www.lds.org/study/topics/paradise... <quoted text> If I die and wake up with Jesus, assume I'm going to be very happy. Now what is Paradise again? "Paradise is that part of the spirit world in which the righteous spirits who have departed from this life await the resurrection of the body. It is a condition of happiness and peace." Sound like a good thing to me. <quoted text> I believe Jesus, why don't you? <quoted text> So what is your point? The thief is in a place for the righteous waiting to be resurrected in heaven. Going to a church has nothing to do with what I know of what that church teaches. Studying the doctrines of that religion gives me knowledge of it's doctrines. I'm guessing this explains why you know so little of Mormonism. The following is taken from Alma...“Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body,… are taken home to that God who gave them life." Even the Bible states we return to the God that created us after death. I call that place paradise/home. But that place as I explained comprises two parts. A part for the righteous called paradise and a part for those less righteous called spirit prison. But it doesn't matter what we call any of it. It's a place of containment where all spirits from this life are bound till the judgement day. My point is you believe the thief earned salvation from Jesus the day he died for sticking up for Jesus being innocent. I believe Jesus was just reassuring him that he would be in spiritual paradise which had nothing to do with being saved at death. Apparently the man had did well enough in life prior to his death, for Jesus to tell him which part of the spiritual prison he would spend his time in till the Judgement day. That was my point. See, mainstream Christianity has no answer for what happens to all those that lived and never heard the gospel. They just like to say they'll be in hell. It's an easy statement to make for a question they can't actually answer.
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