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The Dude

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Jul 19, 2012
 
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Give me a link where that actually happened by natural means.
Formation of new chromosomes as a virulence mechanism in yeast Candida glabrata.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19204294

You still have some options:

1 - Admit you were wrong and you only reject evolution because you are incredulous and hold irrelevant theological objections to it.

2 - Address this in an objective rational scientific manner and debunk it.

3 - Provide evidence that the phenomena required intervention by an intelligence, including the mechanisms it used and the predictions it makes in this context. Unfortunately this only means that you actually accept evolution as long as Goddidit.

4 - Lie, cheat, evade, deny, ignore, generally be dishonest. So far every evolution-denier has taken this route.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I seriously doubt that warp drive is even possible and your link is full of could haves and no definte proof that it actually did.
Oh. You mean like the definite proof that every word in the bible is true? That kind of definite proof?

As I just mentioned, it was an example of how it occurs in modern times proving that it is more than possible. It is real.

Sorry if it went over your head. Listen for the swooshing sound next time.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
MikeF wrote:
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WTF is the Holy Sprite? A new soft drink? They replaced holy water? Who knew?
Are you saying I blaspheme because I quoted history when your god stood by and allowed millions of his chosen people die?
Piss off.
Actually the blasphemer is KJV.

7-Up beats the HECK outta Sprite.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
KJV wrote:
"...religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstein
Good advice. You should listen to him.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
Chimney1 wrote:
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Not even a big deal. There are other organisms alive with varying numbers of chromosomes.
Imagine two lines of 100 pairs of people, each facing his "opposite" in the other line. In each of the two lines, each pair has its number - 1, or 32, or 78. Now I cut the lines at random. Maybe I split them at 50, or maybe at 75. There are still two facing lines each with a 1 to 1 pairing. The correspondence of person to person is intact.
The point is, its the genes that count, not the lines they are in. Chromosomes are variable sized packets of genes. If two chromosomes fuse, they can still mesh with the two separate chromosomes from the "opposite parent" just fine, with the genes still lining up one to one in the same order.
In other words, not a big deal, and not a barrier to reproduction.
I was trying to locate some reference material on that. Got one?
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Jul 19, 2012
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Yep, same answer every time.
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I can read the written word. If it is god's words, then no man should be able to change them. I also would guess that a god who would damn me to Hell for not following his word, would make his word easily understood. Don't you agree? Maybe you believe that god made it difficult so that Hell would have enough souls to keep the fires going?
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Again, so god made his wishes so complicated, that only a person with a doctorate of divinity could understand it?
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Yes, you are saying that your god could not or would not write his instruction manual, for eternal life in heaven, so that the everyday man could read and understand; thus damning those who did not have such an educated person to explain it to them, to Hell. Is that about it?
How are those Marine Technical Manuals written? If you never seen an M18 claymore mine, could you read the Tech Manual, and safely set one up? What you are saying is, your god was not as smart, or caring as the people who wrote Marine Tech Manuals.
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That is Bullshit! That verse clearly states that you can murder your slave, because it is your property. Just make sure that the slave suffers for a day or two.
"a day or two"? What kind of instruction is that?!?
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Bullshit! You only say that, because you have not read the bible.
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Bullshit! That is clearly not what the bible says.
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
What is so hard to understand? God sent his Son into the world so that who so ever will believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life. It is better for someone to never have heard, than for someone who has heard and rejects him. Jesus is the judge.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
The Dude wrote:
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Actually the blasphemer is KJV.
7-Up beats the HECK outta Sprite.
What?

You are insane!

Every sip of Sprite is like tiny orgasms going off!

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Jul 19, 2012
 
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>What is so hard to understand? God sent his Son into the world so that who so ever will believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life. It is better for someone to never have heard, than for someone who has heard and rejects him. Jesus is the judge.
Hey tell me this.

The 'Son' of god.

Who did god hump to have a son?

Does god have a willy?
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#34524
Jul 19, 2012
 
From the heart the mouth speaks. I believe we will be looked at in the judgement as what is in the center of our being or our heart. Jesus changes us from within, if we allow him into our hearts and minds. Jesus has loved each and every one of us so much that he was willing to lay down his life for us. Jesus knows us, and he is a true and righteous judge. If we reject so great of an offer of salvation there will be weeping when it is too late at the judgement.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
Double Fine wrote:
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Hey tell me this.
The 'Son' of god.
Who did god hump to have a son?
Does god have a willy?
You apparently know nothing about the miracle birth of Jesus. God is a spirit, and he moved upon Mary and a virgin brought forth the only begotten Son of the father.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
I am not here to be made fun of or ridiculed. I am here to tell you about someone who loves you. Yes you, even the ones who have been hateful despisers. It is totally your choice to believe Jesus or to doubt him and loose your soul. The evil of this world is out to destroy you, and there is nothing in this world worth being told to depart from our lord and saviour at the judgement.
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Jul 19, 2012
 
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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They probably did.
Just like some of South Park is true is some of it isn't.
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None that I know of.
Pontius Pilate's records show three people who got killed for making divine claims and none of them were named Jesus.
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I need more evidence.
If the Jews are God's chosen people, then why did a god climb out of Lake Titicaca and appear to the Inca people?
If the Jews are God's chosen people, then how could the Japanese Emperor be the son of the Sun god?
If the Jews are God's chosen people, then how did the grandson of the King of Heaven become the first king of Korea?
If the Jews are God's chosen people, then why do the Greek gods live on Mount Olympus?
Are the Incas, the Japanese, the Koreans, and the Greeks liars while the Jews are telling the truth?
How do you know which one to believe?
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What's the major premise of your argument, that a tradition which is kept long enough can't be based on an empty myth?
I don't follow.
That story isn't collaborated anywhere else, so it is probably not true.
Isaac Asimov points out that it supposedly took the Jews 40 years to travel 200 miles.
Even a snail can move faster than 5 miles a year.
To say Moses was never in Egypt and yet the passover has been kept for more than 3,500 yrs its a fact he was there yet ahteists refuse to accept the true.One of the two knew Jesus was nailed for a crime he didnt commit why are you acting like the other one? Are you saying satan never plays a role to ruin the truth about the Incas? Man who worship the sun aleast know how to pray and bow?Korea is also proof that lanuages were given by God not Teachers or educators.The Greek and Korea and the others are like the Arabs who are relate to the Jews and also refuse to say so.Why are the Jews return to there home land and leaving America and so many other Nations just like god said?The Jews who celebrate the passover has more to do with God sending a man to deliver them from bondage just like I was sent to deliver the Evolutionists and atheists from their hopeless Bones to the truth that is in Christ!

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>You apparently know nothing about the miracle birth of Jesus. God is a spirit, and he moved upon Mary and a virgin brought forth the only begotten Son of the father.
So before Jesus was born from Mary, he didn't exist?

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
I am not here to be made fun of or ridiculed. I am here to tell you about someone who loves you. Yes you, even the ones who have been hateful despisers. It is totally your choice to believe Jesus or to doubt him and loose your soul. The evil of this world is out to destroy you, and there is nothing in this world worth being told to depart from our lord and saviour at the judgement.
Hey man, don't sweat it.

Just want to say that I found Jesus

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forreal wrote:
<quoted text>To say Moses was never in Egypt and yet the passover has been kept for more than 3,500 yrs its a fact he was there yet ahteists refuse to accept the true.One of the two knew Jesus was nailed for a crime he didnt commit why are you acting like the other one? Are you saying satan never plays a role to ruin the truth about the Incas? Man who worship the sun aleast know how to pray and bow?Korea is also proof that lanuages were given by God not Teachers or educators.The Greek and Korea and the others are like the Arabs who are relate to the Jews and also refuse to say so.Why are the Jews return to there home land and leaving America and so many other Nations just like god said?The Jews who celebrate the passover has more to do with God sending a man to deliver them from bondage just like I was sent to deliver the Evolutionists and atheists from their hopeless Bones to the truth that is in Christ!
Holy crap! What the hell are you smoking and where can I get some?
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Korea is also proof that lanuages were given by God not Teachers or educators.
Korea? WTF does that even mean?

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Jul 19, 2012
 
MikeF wrote:
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Holy crap! What the hell are you smoking and where can I get some?
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Korea? WTF does that even mean?
forreal seems to be in his own orbit, it seems.

How's tricks?

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Jul 19, 2012
 
Double Fine wrote:
forreal seems to be in his own orbit, it seems.
Indeed.
Double Fine wrote:
How's tricks?
Soggy. Been raining tons in central FL. But we're getting free sandbags! How you doing?

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Jul 19, 2012
 
Re: "Smoke on the Water" - You know Jon Lord passed away Monday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/arts/music/...

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Jul 19, 2012
 
MikeF wrote:
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I was trying to locate some reference material on that. Got one?
Mike, check this out:

http://genetics.thetech.org/original_news/new...

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Jul 19, 2012
 
Also this from the same site:

http://genetics.thetech.org/ask/ask229

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