Gore sets energy goal for next president to heed

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mememine69 wrote:

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Oh,sorry. I just thought that on this forum called global warming, one would be a believer or an denier. Are you walking the fence or are you denier such as almost everyone here at Topix?
I have faith in future of progress to make oil more efficient. But, since we are running out of oil very soon as the GWrs say, won't that be a mess if it's next year or the year after.
Back in 1900 they wondered what to do with all of the horses needed by the year 2000.

democratic socialist wrote:

<quoted text>The climate change issue is obviously not going to be settled in this forum. A lot of people have a lot of dollars and emotion invested in denying that global climate change is happening. I thought maybe if we could all agree that fossil fuels are a finite resource, we might have a more productive discussion. I see I was wrong--the same dollars and emotions are invested in believing that we can drill our way out of any problem. Just like the addict, we only need one more hit, and then maybe we'll think about going straight.

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WTF wrote:

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And the Dems will keep raising the percentage. You are either very naive or ignorant. Maybe both.

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mememine69 wrote:

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Fence walker.

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democratic socialist wrote:

<quoted text>If you weren't able to figure out from that where I stand, then you really haven't been keeping up.

Daniel wrote:

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You complain about the dems raising taxes. yet the field is still not even.......
average worker forks over 1/3 of their paycheck
rich fork over 1/7 of their paycheck.
Notice I put it in fractions so the kiddies can learn.

democratic socialist wrote:

Now what? We all agree we need new resources, but we don't have enough of the old resources left to maintain our current lifestyle AND build wind and solar farms. What do we do then?

Koz wrote:

<quoted text>There are no such little pockets, and it is unlikely that an such pockets are even possible.

upwithbiofuels wrote:

Its very clear that all republicans have been brainwashed by BIG OIL'S propaganda. It should be simple enough for a 10 year old to understand. FOSSIL FUELS are NOT limitless, the supply of FOSSIL FUELS will ever so slowly dwindle. As this happens the price will continue on its path to the stars!!!! The world and this country needs its own source of renewable fuel. The technology exists now to produce ethanol from cellulose. Did you hear that. Let me repeat it. The technology exists now to produce ethanol from cellulose. The production will start next year in Georgia. This will be a fuel made in America by Americans. We NEED many more of these plants

Cthulhu wrote:

I see too many people saying they *know* manmade global warming is crap and often when when I ask them why I discover that their position is based on a rag tag collection of bad anecdotes, urban myths and personal hunches. Hardly the kind of stuff to make a reasonable person dismiss an issue like this so lightly.

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Algernon Sidney wrote:

<quoted text>You seem to have forgotten about hydroelectric, nuclear, coal and geothermal energy.

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mememine69 wrote:

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You said:
"The climate change issue is obviously not going to be settled in this forum. A lot of people have a lot of dollars and emotion invested in denying that global climate change is happening."
It's important that to get people on board for what ever enviromental conern you have, to renounce the global warming theory. It's been 25 freakin years.
Only then can we do what's right with being frightened into it.

upwithbiofuels wrote:

The earth itself is finite. Of course FOSSIL FUELS are finite but thanks to the good lord or mother nature we have this phenomenon called photosynthesis that continues to produce energy from sunlight and CO2. After producing sugars from photosynthesis plants convert them to many other molecules. Energy can be extracted from just about all of these molecules. Since photosynthesis occurs every day then the energy extracted is renewable and does not add new CO2 to the atmosphere.
Henry Ford wanted his first cars to run on biofuels. Henry Ford was a genius. This country can and should design cars that use hybrid technology and burn biofuels.
A fellow in Kansas has taken the engine out of a 1959 Lincoln and replaced it with a hybrid engine that burns biodiesel. With an average size tank this monstrosity of a car can go from the east to west coasts of the United States on 2 tanks.
This country has the ingenuity and the resources needed to break our FOSSIL FUELS from the middle east habit.
Will somebody please give me an amen?

Fun Facts wrote:

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I do not think that the government is the best spender of our money. so I believe that each of us regardless of income should pay less.
In my perfect world. We would not pay any federal income taxes. Each state would tax their residents and provide any services not specifically detailed in the constitution. the federal would tax the state for membership in the federation. And the government would be responsible only for those services specifically detailed in the constitution.
If we had continued on the path created by the founders of this nation, that is how we would look. Your elected federal representatives would lose a whole lot of power they were never intended to have. They were never intended to get a salary for serving, insurance and a pension. They were to be citizen legislators who whould do the country's business and then return to their own homes and their own jobs.
NEWS AS OF THIS AM. BILL IN CONGRESS TO IMPOSE AN ADDITIONAL 10 CENT TAX PER GALLON OF GASOLINE.
Why, congress makes more money off gasoline and oil than the oil companies do. When consumption goes down so does the congressional disposable income. Gasoline taxes go to the highway fund, the place where most earmarks come from. 18 billion earmarks last year.
This system is broke and broken.

John Galt wrote:

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Interesting that you would move the discussion in this direction since you haven't answered my (first) question. However, I will answer yours.
Starting yesteryear, we should be pursuing every possible source of energy. As our research matures, so will we be able to make a reasoned and logical decision on which energy sources (solar, wind, tide, nuclear, etc., etc.) will be the most viable on a national and worldwide scale. My bet is that several energy sources will be necessary, just as they are today (oil, coal, nuclear, hydroelectric, NG, etc.). So, as we "run out" of oil, if indeed that happens, we will have the alternative energy sources available.
Now, please answer my question. What can, at this moment, replace oil?

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real old money wrote:

<quoted text>I believe we, the 1% richest, should pay for all the government programs. If I pay for it then I get to say where the money goes not you. And I would sharply curtail all spending tomorrow. After all its my money.