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Oct 14, 2008

Obama to Plumber: My Plan Will 'Spread the Wealth Around'

"Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed "more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

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The African Free Press exposes Obama:

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Oct 15, 2008
 
Obama is going to help me get paid?

I knew one day I would be succesfull without even working for it? lol

if you are broke why would you not vote for Obama? I mean he is going to take the money from all those rich folks and give it to me, so I can go catch waves all day long while they work? LOL
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WE DID WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE ECONOMY!
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OBAMA-BIDEN 08
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JOHN MCCAIN WILL GIVE MONEY TO WARS, AND TO REBUILD IRAQ.
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An older white southern woman looks at Obama.
As an older white Southern woman, casting the most important vote of my lifetime, I look at Barack Obama and I see:
A young black man growing up with a single white mom and hard-working Kansas grandparents, overcoming obvious odds, committing his life to the “one nation indivisible” for which we Americans still strive.
A college graduate driving a beat-up car into neighborhoods of poor and jobless whites, blacks, and Latinos— listening to them, taking action, recruiting local churches to help in his mission of public service.
A public servant whose striking leadership qualities move to Washington, supporting the needed change of direction there, developing fresh ideas to fix a failing economy and health care and energy plans.
A leader who grasps the big picture in the many crises we face, just as he did in opposing the Iraq war from the beginning. A leader respected by our allies and other world leaders. A smart, tough guy who is willing to listen to and work with them before plunging headlong into another morally wrong and disastrous war.
I see him as the candidate most ready to follow Jesus' command to love one another.
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Oct 15, 2008
 
Obama will finish off this economy with his extortionist redistribution of wealth theology. Obama is just playing the same old tired class ware games the Democrats have always played. Hate those who have actually worked hard for their money.
He will destroy the largest source of employment, the small businesses. Why should a business owner work his butt off, only to see Obama steal the fruits of his labor to go to a bunch of lazy Democrat "I want everything handed to me" losers.

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Goodbye America wrote:
Obama will finish off this economy with his extortionist redistribution of wealth theology. Obama is just playing the same old tired class ware games the Democrats have always played. Hate those who have actually worked hard for their money.
He will destroy the largest source of employment, the small businesses. Why should a business owner work his butt off, only to see Obama steal the fruits of his labor to go to a bunch of lazy Democrat "I want everything handed to me" losers.
dude chill out, you are going to screw up everything for me
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Oct 15, 2008
 
You poor redneck hicks are so stupid it is hilarious. Your jobs are shipped overseas, wages going lower and lower and you fools still suck on the pecker of the rich that profit off of your labors. What dumb shit thinks the only people who work hard are the rich. An idiot that gets thrown a crumb and thinks they might get theirs one day. You fools don't realize the playing field is not level and most of you don't have a chance in hell of ever getting to the level of income that would have their taxes increased. The rich laugh their ass off at you while they send the money you helped them make off shore or buy yachts and steaks while you struggle to pay bills and send your kids to college. What a joke to insinuate that working class people just don't work hard enough to get a bigger piece of the profits. The super low corporate tax actually leads to lower wages because the damn owners or management would shift more into wages to avoid a higer tax. They sure as hell won't share anymore out of the goodness of their greedy selfish heart. This bullshit about what wages the market will support is just that bullshit, just take a look how the wealth in this country has shifted more and more to the top 1% as tax rates for the wealthy have been lowered and how wages for the working stiff don't even keep up with inflation. I bet everyone of you idiots are all bible thumping fools to think the way you do. Control comes in many forms and by gawd you ditto heads are true zombies.
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Oct 15, 2008
 
Marxist!

“Wheres my man Rev Wright?”

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MIDDLE AMERICA wrote:
You poor redneck hicks are so stupid it is hilarious. Your jobs are shipped overseas, wages going lower and lower and you fools still suck on the pecker of the rich that profit off of your labors. What dumb shit thinks the only people who work hard are the rich. An idiot that gets thrown a crumb and thinks they might get theirs one day. You fools don't realize the playing field is not level and most of you don't have a chance in hell of ever getting to the level of income that would have their taxes increased. The rich laugh their ass off at you while they send the money you helped them make off shore or buy yachts and steaks while you struggle to pay bills and send your kids to college. What a joke to insinuate that working class people just don't work hard enough to get a bigger piece of the profits. The super low corporate tax actually leads to lower wages because the damn owners or management would shift more into wages to avoid a higer tax. They sure as hell won't share anymore out of the goodness of their greedy selfish heart. This bullshit about what wages the market will support is just that bullshit, just take a look how the wealth in this country has shifted more and more to the top 1% as tax rates for the wealthy have been lowered and how wages for the working stiff don't even keep up with inflation. I bet everyone of you idiots are all bible thumping fools to think the way you do. Control comes in many forms and by gawd you ditto heads are true zombies.
And Obama will stop all of this by raising taxes? BTW slick, most of the "working stiff" do not pay federal taxes anyway.
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Oct 15, 2008
 
Marxist my ass you dumbfuck. These corporatist assholes are sending our jobs overseas, downsizing while taking multimillion dollar bonuses that would have kept thousands employeed, and destroying the middle class that seperated our country from the rest of the world. You fools keep sucking on the koolaid of rush, hannity, and the rest of the million dollar contract hacks. It is time for the working people to stand up and take back some of what is ours. You really think these so called bigwhigs of business deserve so much more than everyone else. You really think their that much smarter than you or that they could make it all without their employees. Hell no their not, the get where they are at by cronyism, inheritance, etc. Don't say they went to college and etc, etc. A heck of a lot of Americans go to college and work their ass off and never get crap but taxes and mediocre wages while the fat cats rake in the dough. I'm no marxist but what we have right now is socialism for the rich, by the rich, and only for the top 10%.

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Is this illegal or what?

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Oct 15, 2008
 
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>And Obama will stop all of this by raising taxes? BTW slick, most of the "working stiff" do not pay federal taxes anyway.
I don't know what the hell your talking about seeing as I paid in about 7000 last year after deductions and no I'm not including s.s. or medicare taxes as those added several thousand more. The working people unfortunately get taxed before they ever see their money and isn't it nice how their is an income limit where s.s. et al. caps and it always seems to be about where the middle class income ends and the upper class begins. But no, the big wigs take their pay in stocks and other vehicles and are able to avoid many of the taxes we have to pay. Corporate influence on our government has sent us off a cliff and we are quickly if not already heading toward serfdom. When did I mention Obama? I don't care who changes the way things are, I just want change.

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MIDDLE AMERICA wrote:
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I don't know what the hell your talking about seeing as I paid in about 7000 last year after deductions and no I'm not including s.s. or medicare taxes as those added several thousand more. The working people unfortunately get taxed before they ever see their money and isn't it nice how their is an income limit where s.s. et al. caps and it always seems to be about where the middle class income ends and the upper class begins. But no, the big wigs take their pay in stocks and other vehicles and are able to avoid many of the taxes we have to pay. Corporate influence on our government has sent us off a cliff and we are quickly if not already heading toward serfdom. When did I mention Obama? I don't care who changes the way things are, I just want change.
Barry Soetoro AKA Barrack Hussein Obama received over $120,000.00 from Fannie and Freddie to keep the Federal Regulators off of them.

Yep CHANGE WE CANNOT AFFORD.
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Are there really this many losers out there that want redistribution of wealth? How sickening.

When someone "takes" from the rich and "gives" to the poor that is socialism and it is also classism. Penalize someone who works hard and take what they have and give it to those who do not work hard to make their own way. Now before you scream that not all poor people are lazy, that is not what I am saying at all. I am saying that when Obama announces that 44% of the people will not have to pay taxes at all! and that they will each still receive a stimulus check each January anyway !!! So then what insentive do they have to better themselves, as in work hard get promoted etc, if staying in that lower non-tax bracket and getting free money is so darn easy? Exactly, there is no incentive and it actually keeps the poorer people poor, kind of like our present welfare system. We certainly need a welfare system but our present one needs to be revised to give a hand up and not a hand out. "He's not taking your hard earned money or limiting how much you can earn." YES, that is exactly what Obama wants to do, thank you for making my point. Hard earned money would no longer belong to those who worked hard to get it because they would be paying astronomical taxes to Obama for him to "redistribute" the wealth! True, there would be no limit on what anyone can earn but as those earnings go up the penalties (ie high taxes) would go right up with the wages so what would be the point?
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As one of the 'lucky ones' to make more than 250K, yet somehow "unfairly" only contribute 38% of the income taxes. I also happen to employ 32 Americans. I have to ask all of you Obama supporters two questions.

1. What amount above the current 38% contribution would you consider "fair"? By the current tax code, controlling 22% of the income while contributing 38% of the income taxes seems to be unfair as it is.

2. If when under an Obama administration, my taxes are increased, do you expect me to absorb the increase alone?

Here is a hint, NO WAY! These are some of the measures that I will be forced to entertain:

1. Reduce or eliminate benefits.
2. Decrease/freeze wages.
3. Slow growth.
4. Eliminate jobs. You will see a situation where employers are put in the position of hurting the people that Obama claims to care about.

I worked like an animal, sacrificed time with my children, begged and borrowed, risked everthing I owned, and I made it. As a result, 32 people are supporting their families and providing a future for them. All without a penny of assistance from government. The idea that there is enough money in the pockets of the "lucky" 5% to make up for the lost opportunities of the middle class is a cruel joke
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Malibu Barbie wrote:
As one of the 'lucky ones' to make more than 250K, yet somehow "unfairly" only contribute 38% of the income taxes. I also happen to employ 32 Americans. I have to ask all of you Obama supporters two questions.
1. What amount above the current 38% contribution would you consider "fair"? By the current tax code, controlling 22% of the income while contributing 38% of the income taxes seems to be unfair as it is.
2. If when under an Obama administration, my taxes are increased, do you expect me to absorb the increase alone?
Here is a hint, NO WAY! These are some of the measures that I will be forced to entertain:
1. Reduce or eliminate benefits.
2. Decrease/freeze wages.
3. Slow growth.
4. Eliminate jobs. You will see a situation where employers are put in the position of hurting the people that Obama claims to care about.
I worked like an animal, sacrificed time with my children, begged and borrowed, risked everthing I owned, and I made it. As a result, 32 people are supporting their families and providing a future for them. All without a penny of assistance from government. The idea that there is enough money in the pockets of the "lucky" 5% to make up for the lost opportunities of the middle class is a cruel joke
Nobodys talking about the small business owner dumbass. Are you also so narrow minded you can't see the forest for the trees. You employ 32 people. Okay, there are over 300 million people in this country and the majority don't work for some small little company out in the woods. The big monopolies are taking out small businesses like yours except in niche areas. Look at all the consolidation of late, reformation of the bell's (att), banking, etc. ConAgra and others taking over agriculture, etc. We cannot compete on level ground with 3rd world labor whether that be skilled or unskilled with the current setup and maintain a middle class. If you think the working middle class will slink off into oblivion to the benifit of a few you are crazy. I don't give a damn about "I worked my ass off, I didn't spend time with my family, etc., I deserve it". Fuk you, a lot of people work 2 or 3 jobs and still just barely cover the basics and not just uneducated dupes like your likely to come back and say. The disparity in wealth in this country is not healthy and that is the same reason our economy is going down the shitter. The US is way down the list of countries now as far as the standard of living and the workers want a piece of the profits that they helped you to earn. Cause there is no way you made just on your own effort and to say otherwise is a crock of shit.

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Nobodys talking about the small business owner dumbass. Are you also so narrow minded you can't see the forest for the trees. You employ 32 people. Okay, there are over 300 million people in this country and the majority don't work for some small little company out in the woods. The big monopolies are taking out small businesses like yours except in niche areas. Look at all the consolidation of late, reformation of the bell's (att), banking, etc. ConAgra and others taking over agriculture, etc. We cannot compete on level ground with 3rd world labor whether that be skilled or unskilled with the current setup and maintain a middle class. If you think the working middle class will slink off into oblivion to the benifit of a few you are crazy. I don't give a damn about "I worked my ass off, I didn't spend time with my family, etc., I deserve it". Fuk you, a lot of people work 2 or 3 jobs and still just barely cover the basics and not just uneducated dupes like your likely to come back and say. The disparity in wealth in this country is not healthy and that is the same reason our economy is going down the shitter. The US is way down the list of countries now as far as the standard of living and the workers want a piece of the profits that they helped you to earn. Cause there is no way you made just on your own effort and to say otherwise is a crock of shit.
If you or anyone else don't like working for someone, then don't. If you want more, go out and start your own business and pay yourself whatever you think your worth. Instead of just whining about someone who did what you are not willing to do. If you can't afford it on your own, why don't you get with other whiners like yourself and do it together. You know, instead of sharing the wealth, you co-op and share the work to get the wealth that you want shared so bad. Or is it the latter part of that you can't handle? Just give me the reward, I don't want to work for nuthin.
Better yet, why don't you start a business and give "all" your profits to your employees so they can prosper and you can show the world your not just another greedy CEO. C'mon man, quit your sniveling and get out there and do something.

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Nobodys talking about the small business owner dumbass. Are you also so narrow minded you can't see the forest for the trees. You employ 32 people. Okay, there are over 300 million people in this country and the majority don't work for some small little company out in the woods. The big monopolies are taking out small businesses like yours except in niche areas. Look at all the consolidation of late, reformation of the bell's (att), banking, etc. ConAgra and others taking over agriculture, etc. We cannot compete on level ground with 3rd world labor whether that be skilled or unskilled with the current setup and maintain a middle class. If you think the working middle class will slink off into oblivion to the benifit of a few you are crazy. I don't give a damn about "I worked my ass off, I didn't spend time with my family, etc., I deserve it". Fuk you, a lot of people work 2 or 3 jobs and still just barely cover the basics and not just uneducated dupes like your likely to come back and say. The disparity in wealth in this country is not healthy and that is the same reason our economy is going down the shitter. The US is way down the list of countries now as far as the standard of living and the workers want a piece of the profits that they helped you to earn. Cause there is no way you made just on your own effort and to say otherwise is a crock of shit.
You still don't get it do you? When Barry increases wages on companies that make over $250,000.00 a year net that is most small businesses. That will drive up the cost of their products and services and cost even MORE American their jobs and one small business after another will be forced OUT OF BUSINESS.
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Obama is going to help me get paid?
I knew one day I would be succesfull without even working for it? lol
if you are broke why would you not vote for Obama? I mean he is going to take the money from all those rich folks and give it to me, so I can go catch waves all day long while they work? LOL
Quit whimpering like SanFran nancyboyz. Get your FatKat$ snout outa the public trough. Sorry palsy the "hard working rich" have been too busy selling America to Saudi and Chi.com masters to make any money for the rest-of-us.
Then -- when the $$$.hoe bankers/brokers/financiers go broke with their own CASINO financial ploys the dirt-poor workers have to bail them out ... to the tune of $-6-Trillion.

Nope the lil-piggy $$$.hoes have f*cked America in the *zzwhole ... maliciously bankrupted the country and it's payback time. So bend over lil-piggy$$$$.hoes there's a greased baseball bat coming your way ..... squeal lil-piggy$ squeal.
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Redistribution of Wealth

http://www.importanceofphilosophy.com/Bloody_...

Resdistribution of wealth by the government, for example Welfare or Social Security, is egalitarianism put into practice at the point of a gun. This blatant theft is often obscured by the fact that it is voted into place. They claim that the majority of people believe some individuals are deserving of "charity", and people should give some money to them. They say that they don't mind that government is using their money to help the needy.

This is an obfuscation, though. If people felt they should be charitable, they could donate on their own. Government is an agency of force. If something can be done voluntary, it wouldn't need to be done by the government. The redistributionists don't just want to give their money, they want to give other people's money away. Specifically, they want to take money from those that have earned it, and given to those that haven't.

Redistribution of wealth is an attack on the successful, and a subsidy to the unsuccessful. Egalitarians aims to achieve equality by bringing down the good to their level. Redistribution of wealth is one method of achieving their goal.
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Obama will finish off this economy with his extortionist redistribution of wealth theology. Obama is just playing the same old tired class ware games the Democrats have always played. Hate those who have actually worked hard for their money.
He will destroy the largest source of employment, the small businesses. Why should a business owner work his butt off, only to see Obama steal the fruits of his labor to go to a bunch of lazy Democrat "I want everything handed to me" losers.
I am convinced Obama will purposely destroy the american economy, striking a blow against capitalism, and throwing america into a depression. By doing so Obama will afford himself and the liberal democrats the perfect opportunity to expand government as never before, taking over large segments of the economy and increasing government power to totalitarianism.
Look at who Obama asociates with, and listen to his rhetoric ... Obama wants to bring down corporate america, and replace it with socialism.
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