Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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“I'm here with bells on.”

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#253940 Aug 22, 2012
zef wrote:
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No, personhood is a condition arising from being the arian master race. Do you think we'd be sending jews to the death camps if they were persons? Birth has nothing to do with a woman being a person, or a jew.
Our opinions appear to differ here.

Jews and women are born.
sassy Jm

Jackson, NJ

#253941 Aug 22, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.
<quoted text>So you're okay with the CHOICE to gestate, and you would also be fine with the absence of choice in the matter. Your opinion is that your choice should be the only one available.
Got it.
<quoted text>If we lived in the utopia you apparently envision, there would be no discussion necessary on the subject of abortion.
We don't.
Oh my...lookie we have here....an honest proabort who flat out said YES to my question of if she supports the choice to abort. That's a first.

Of course I am okay with the CHOICE to gestate. Didn't I just say it like twice already? I don't think ANYONE should be forced to have sex or get pregnant. WHO here on this forum disagrees with me?

Sweetie,if you have a point,please get to it. My popcorn is getting cold.
sassy Jm

Jackson, NJ

#253942 Aug 22, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>I found nothing in this post but emotionally driven nonsense, to which I respond, "So what?"
In other words,you have no good enough rebuttal.

Have you ever aborted?

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#253943 Aug 22, 2012
Ink wrote:
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It is what you said.
Ink wrote:
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Are you serious? You think women in this country are in danger of not be treated with chemo for cancer because they are pregnant?
Who is advocating for that?
C'mom.
Bitner said:
Anyone who is advocating for abortion to be entirely illegal. Pay attention, Witless
Sigh. It's not my fault that you can't follow from A to B.

If the we had the same laws here, and many are advocating for just that, then we'd have the same problems with doctors being afraid to cause a miscarriage that may be considered an induced abortion.

Stop being deliberately obtuse.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#253944 Aug 22, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Our opinions appear to differ here.
Jews and women are born.
Women are female humans. Birth has nothing to do with who is, or isn't a female human. Jews are a race of sub-humans, which is why they can't be called persons. Birth has nothing to do with anyones race. Race is determined by genetics upon conception.
Ink

Morrisville, PA

#253945 Aug 22, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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Sigh. It's not my fault that you can't follow from A to B.
If the we had the same laws here, and many are advocating for just that, then we'd have the same problems with doctors being afraid to cause a miscarriage that may be considered an induced abortion.
Stop being deliberately obtuse.
No you wouldn't, nobody wants to force a pregnant woman to die.

You get told this all the time and you still go back to the same old paranoia.
Kenose

Westbury, NY

#253946 Aug 22, 2012
sassy Jm wrote:
<quoted text> Rapped?
@@
Who sits on a jury and judges "rapped" poor souls?
Jury rapping is the latest craze on MTV2.
katie

Lakewood, WA

#253947 Aug 22, 2012
sassy Jm wrote:
<quoted text> Rapped?
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Who sits on a jury and judges "rapped" poor souls?
Nope,PP is the reason why "rappes" go unreported. Proaborts like you are the reason why they go unreported. You have been known to mock YOUNG girls that were abused and/or accuse rape victims of screaming rape to cover up their "sluttiness".
http://www.whbf.com/story/19305994/charges-ag...

Stop vilifying PP. Your daughter may need them some day.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

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#253948 Aug 22, 2012
Ink wrote:
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No you wouldn't, nobody wants to force a pregnant woman to die.
You get told this all the time and you still go back to the same old paranoia.
"you"? Sorry, but we live in the same country. That would be "we". And yes, we would. I never said ANYTHING about people wanting to force a pregnant woman to die. Stop re-wording my position.

This didn't happen because the Dominican Republic is a developing country. It didn't happen due to a lack of medical knowledge. It happened because of the law making abortion entirely illegal. If abortion was entirely illegal here, the same situation would start happening here as well.

I'm sorry you're not bright enough to understand simple logic.

“Nasty Nana”

Since: Jun 12

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#253949 Aug 22, 2012
sassy Jm wrote:
<quoted text> Are you telling a woman what to do? how to think? what to post? If someone wants to air their dirty laundry,then that's THEIR business. Regardless,she didn't air it to YOU. You weren't on when Lynne first aired it. She,btw,did it for a reason. You merely jumped others bandwagons against her. YOU aired your rape on here,your racist comments about yoru grandchildren and YOU have the audacity to call her out? PRICELESS NN.
"""News flash sister, real trauma victims do not talk to total strangers about their abuse""""
Bull. You're clueless.
Why did you then?
"""I have little time for silly little girls that cry wolf"""" "
Thank you for proving my point. YOU are the reason why girls don't report their rapes.
""" having a bad day sister?""" "
Nope. Quite the opposite.
:)
Got busy, and trying to catch up.
Me, clueless, nope.
I have not posted about abuse.
Still not NN.
All the same, glad you are having a nice day!
And because, I really am a nice person, we may have very different views and opinions, I have enjoyed the banter.
Hope you enjoy your evening. ;-)

“I'm here with bells on.”

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#253950 Aug 22, 2012
sassy Jm wrote:
<quoted text> In other words,you have no good enough rebuttal.
Rebuttal to what?
sassy Jm wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever aborted?
Yes.

“I'm here with bells on.”

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#253951 Aug 22, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Women are female humans.
Agreed.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Birth has nothing to do with who is, or isn't a female human.
It has everything to do with whether or not one is born, however.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Jews are a race of sub-humans, which is why they can't be called persons.
Disagree.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Birth has nothing to do with anyones race. Race is determined by genetics upon conception.
Thank you for the biology lesson. I was not discussing race, but personhood.

It's a condition of birth to be a person.
It's a condition of conception to be a human.

To you, there may not be a difference - to me, words have meanings, which, while subtle, are nonetheless important.

Apparently we have many differences of opinion.

I, personally, am okay with that. Pun intended.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#253952 Aug 22, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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"you"? Sorry, but we live in the same country. That would be "we". And yes, we would. I never said ANYTHING about people wanting to force a pregnant woman to die. Stop re-wording my position.
This didn't happen because the Dominican Republic is a developing country. It didn't happen due to a lack of medical knowledge. It happened because of the law making abortion entirely illegal. If abortion was entirely illegal here, the same situation would start happening here as well.
I'm sorry you're not bright enough to understand simple logic.
The thousands of young women killed here every day with abortion didn't choose to die. Making abortion entirely illegal will save most of them from their senseless deaths at the hands of the brutal tyrants that choose to kill them.

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#253953 Aug 22, 2012
Bitner wrote:
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I have friends who always rent, even though they could easily afford to buy. They just like to be able to move when they want, as they're both retired. Since I've known them, nine years, they've moved four times. It DOES have the virtue of not needing to depend on the housing market, for those who don't care about owning.
One of my college instructors sold her house and bought large travel trailer to live in. She and her husband love it. No muss, no fuss:-)

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#253954 Aug 22, 2012
OLD LADY wrote:
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Well...I live in Kentucky,but wait! I do have teeth!
lol!

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#253955 Aug 22, 2012
Ink wrote:
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No you wouldn't, nobody wants to force a pregnant woman to die.
Except for Paul Ryan, whose 'plan' would outlaw abortion without exception, and every Congressman who signs the 'Pledge to Life' which purports to exemplify their willingness to grant 'personhood'(but not citizenship status) to every zygote conceived on US soil, at the expense of women's citizenship while pregnant.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>You get told this all the time and you still go back to the same old paranoia.
Do you listen without question to everything you're told?

Just because one is paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to getcha.....

:)
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#253956 Aug 22, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed.
<quoted text>It has everything to do with whether or not one is born, however.
<quoted text>Disagree.
<quoted text>Thank you for the biology lesson. I was not discussing race, but personhood.
It's a condition of birth to be a person.
It's a condition of conception to be a human.
To you, there may not be a difference - to me, words have meanings, which, while subtle, are nonetheless important.
Apparently we have many differences of opinion.
I, personally, am okay with that. Pun intended.
Your nihilist hatemongering and bigotry sickens me.

person noun
2. a human being as distinguished from an animal or a thing

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/person

Definition of PERSON
1: human, individual

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/per...

Since: Jun 08

Atrisco Village

#253958 Aug 22, 2012
Lady_Venus wrote:
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Fighting to remove birth control is counter productive and a step backwards! The United States claims to practice Preventive Medicine, this is not strictly the case. We are the only country in the Western World that actually charge for birth control. Absolutely ludicrous.
Yup!
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#253959 Aug 22, 2012
I argue that ‘being human’ is a sufficient condition for the application of the label ‘person’ to a living creature – note that a dead human being is no longer alive, therefore they are no longer a person, yet they were once a person. The reason I argue for the case of all humans being persons is that I see many issues with denying personhood to a human being. The reason I argue for all humans being persons is mainly not because of the implications of doing so, but the implications of not doing so. For example…

Abortion is justified by many in that until the foetus has reached a certain stage of development, it is not considered a person, and therefore the termination of an unborn child (before a certain stage of development) is not tantamount to murder. Therefore, if we begin to deny personhood to other human beings we can just as equally justify their killing, or even merely their mistreatment. Imagine living in a society which judged that you had lost your status as a person and therefore could be lawfully killed (not murdered) by a doctor without your consent.

http://www.alevelphilosophy.com/personhood/79...
Ink

Morrisville, PA

#253960 Aug 22, 2012
Sister Kathryn Lust wrote:
<quoted text>Except for Paul Ryan, whose 'plan' would outlaw abortion without exception, and every Congressman who signs the 'Pledge to Life' which purports to exemplify their willingness to grant 'personhood'(but not citizenship status) to every zygote conceived on US soil, at the expense of women's citizenship while pregnant.
<quoted text>Do you listen without question to everything you're told?
Just because one is paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to getcha.....
:)
What's 'the plan' and 'the pledge to life'? Perhaps you read it wrong.

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