Scores die in wave of attacks in Afghanistan

Aren't those the Taliban US helped put to power?

And why was the fight against the Russians who also helped the Afghan government against Taliban fight for freedom, but the fight against US presence in Afghanistan is considered terrorism?

Its really confusing...

wovee

The reason the US attacked the Taliban is that the ban gave Osama bin Laden a base to operate from and the protection of the Afghan government. The ban refused to hand over or kick bin Laden out of the country and sealed its fate. As for helping the ban and others against the communist government in Kabul, in hindsight, it would perhaps have been a good idea to along with the Russians back that government. In fact, I dare say it was the only chance the Afghans had of moving into the modern world and fighting out of poverty and ignorance. I along with most others thought we were doing the right thing fighting the communist government. I and perhaps many others now see the folly of our thinking. Remember Zibignew Bersinski(I know that spelling may be wrong) standing in Pakistan and aiming the rifle across the border into Afghanistan. Perhaps many were blinded by concerns about Russia projecting power in the south asian area and even threatening Iran and Pakistan. We all make mistakes. Certainly by not going whole hog into Afghanistan we have made a blunder and focused too much on Iraq. Always remember that world events are always not what the media make them seem. For instance, Iran was the first country to threaten the Taliban when the religious fanatics kept killling shia muslims. Iran massed troops on the Afghan border and the killing stopped. Even the Taliban have a little intelligence.

Who cares!
The americans have murdered thousands of innocent people all over the World!

USA pull out wrote:

Aren't those the Taliban US helped put to power?
And why was the fight against the Russians who also helped the Afghan government against Taliban fight for freedom, but the fight against US presence in Afghanistan is considered terrorism?
Its really confusing...

This statement, coming from someone with such a name and coming from such a country, is to be expected.

US is murderer wrote:

Who cares!
The americans have murdered thousands of innocent people all over the World!

And Greece is just another innocent bystander, right?

USA pull out wrote:

Aren't those the Taliban US helped put to power?
And why was the fight against the Russians who also helped the Afghan government against Taliban fight for freedom, but the fight against US presence in Afghanistan is considered terrorism?
Its really confusing...

The USSR invaded Afghanistan in '79 to prevent the country from leaving Soviet control. To refresh your history, the USSR was a dark, evil empire that openly stated they wanted communism to take over the world. The USA along with NATO, is in Afghanistan because the Taliban allowed Al-Quada to orchestrate a major attack against the USA on 9-11. NATO has no desire whatsoever to take over Afghanistan. Where do you get your news, the BBC? The USA is a nation of great people with tolerance for all religions. Only a brainwashed fool would equate the old USSR with the USA.

USA pull out wrote:

Aren't those the Taliban US helped put to power?
And why was the fight against the Russians who also helped the Afghan government against Taliban fight for freedom, but the fight against US presence in Afghanistan is considered terrorism?
Its really confusing...

During the Afganistan war with the Soviets there were at least 15 Muhajean groups or Afgan resistence groups from different Factions , tribes etc. They worked semi collectively and were aided by the CIA, all equally. Of this group to come along and insert himself was Bin Laden. His group was small but as well received some aid.
After the Soviet withdraw, the most powerful group was the Northern alliance. The Taliban were growing in strength as the US took thier eye off the ball in Afganistan, relishing perhaps the collapse of the Soviet Union coming about in 1989. Bin Laden killed the leader of the Northern alliance and set up Taliban rule through ruthlessness.
So to think of all those Muhajean fighters and factions being only the Taliban is erroneous. Or that the US assisted only Bin Laden and his entry onto the field of activity. A late comer at that.
Now , to question his arrival and how he came to be there, might be a better trail.

Fresh Look wrote:

<quoted text> The USSR invaded Afghanistan in '79 to prevent the country from leaving Soviet control. To refresh your history, the USSR was a dark, evil empire that openly stated they wanted communism to take over the world. The USA along with NATO, is in Afghanistan because the Taliban allowed Al-Quada to orchestrate a major attack against the USA on 9-11. NATO has no desire whatsoever to take over Afghanistan. Where do you get your news, the BBC? The USA is a nation of great people with tolerance for all religions. Only a brainwashed fool would equate the old USSR with the USA.

Yes sure...

USSR were all killers, US is a candy bringer... Sure.

Lets review the facts about USSR intervention:

In order to bolster the Parcham faction , the Soviet Union—citing the 1978 Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Good Neighborliness that had been signed between the two countries—intervened on December 24, 1979. Over 100,000 Soviet troops took part in the invasion backed by another 100,000 plus and by members of the Parcham faction. Amin was killed and replaced by Babrak Karmal.

But still you avoid the question about US helping the Taliban.

US armed and financed the worse kind of people just to see their influence prevail.

Tooth4U wrote:

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During the Afganistan war with the Soviets there were at least 15 Muhajean groups or Afgan resistence groups from different Factions , tribes etc. They worked semi collectively and were aided by the CIA, all equally. Of this group to come along and insert himself was Bin Laden. His group was small but as well received some aid.
After the Soviet withdraw, the most powerful group was the Northern alliance. The Taliban were growing in strength as the US took thier eye off the ball in Afganistan, relishing perhaps the collapse of the Soviet Union coming about in 1989. Bin Laden killed the leader of the Northern alliance and set up Taliban rule through ruthlessness.
So to think of all those Muhajean fighters and factions being only the Taliban is erroneous. Or that the US assisted only Bin Laden and his entry onto the field of activity. A late comer at that.
Now , to question his arrival and how he came to be there, might be a better trail.

The Taliban strength did not grow out of nothing... US helped them, armed them and trained them.

It's OK.
All that oil in Afghanistan will pay for the war and make it worthwhile, eh?

USA pull out wrote:

But still you avoid the question about US helping the Taliban.
US armed and financed the worse kind of people just to see their influence prevail.

Alliances are fluid by nature. The USA and the USSR were allies in WWII in 1945 and enemies in 1946. Yes, the USA helped the Taliban defeat the Soviet invasion because we shared a common enemy. Are you under the impression that allegiances should never change?

USA pull out wrote:

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The Taliban strength did not grow out of nothing... US helped them, armed them and trained them.

Not any more then any other group resisting Soviet Occupation. No. And in fact due to thier numerical inferiority, less then the others.

But then USA left. It became a free for all for the various factions to rise up and control Afganistan. The most ruthless, was the Taliban using Bin Laden money.

1) We salute our nine heroes for their service to our nation, and for making the ultimate sacrifice.

2) Afghanistan is where the war is. This is where we should have focused our efforts, not Iraq. We must undo the bungling of the last 5 1/2 years.

Thank God we'll have a new Commander In Chief in 6 months.

US is murderer wrote:

Who cares!
The americans have murdered thousands of innocent people all over the World!

Yes, we are a murderous country.

But Gawd loves us the most!

USA pull out wrote:

Aren't those the Taliban US helped put to power?
And why was the fight against the Russians who also helped the Afghan government against Taliban fight for freedom, but the fight against US presence in Afghanistan is considered terrorism?
Its really confusing...

Afghanistan has one of the world’s largest oil and natural gas preserves. And, they also have some the world’s largest opium poppy fields, creating enormous wealth for those in control.

Both the US and Russia wanted to control Afghanistan. And you are correct, for many years the US did fund and support the Taliban. Our nation's corporate and elected leaders brought the Taliban to Texas where they were wined and dined in an effort to secure a contract for UNOCAL to construct a natural gas pipeline.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/west_asia/37...

But those ungrateful Taliban refused to play along to get along. Many believe that's the reason that we chose to take the fight to Afghanistan after 9/11 even though no Afghans were responsible for 9/11 attack.

After 9/11 our mission was clear; we stayed in Afghanistan long enough to installed our own front man (in 2004) as the President of Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai, a former executive of UNOCAL.

Please review:

The FEBRUARY 12, 1998,

HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ASIA AND THE PACIFIC
OF THE COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Pay particular attention to pages 30 to 45 – it’s a great read….
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/...

US is murderer wrote:

Who cares!
The americans have murdered thousands of innocent people all over the World!

Your a hypocrite. Get over yourself.

Yes, and PRAY (insert who/whatever you like here) that whoever it is has some quidance, cuz they're gonna need it.

the U.S. averages 22 children raped and then murdered each day - and the democrat liberal media don't give a crap! they keep child preditors safe & ready to strike a day! And look, the liberal media don't even mention it!