Why do Americans still dislike atheists?

Apr 30, 2011 | Posted by: Hedonist | Full story: www.washingtonpost.com

Long after blacks and Jews have made great strides, and even as homosexuals gain respect, acceptance and new rights, there is still a group that lots of Americans just don't like much: atheists.

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Drew Smith wrote:
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Just as theistic Satanists can be considered a subset of theists.
But he won't admit to that.
Funny how not only do you have to make up things I don't say and say I did, you now make up things I don't say and insist I won't.

Poor little NotBot...
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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Beats your 'happens all the time' anecdotes, EH?.
'Happens all the time' is a colloquial expression, not a statistical claim. ESL courses are available at your local CC.
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And I have invited you to BACK UP YOUR BIG MOUTH, pointing to the 100,000 *schools*, which, if it happens 'all the time' one would see several hundred- if not several thousand- lawsuits..
But in fact there HAVE been hundreds of lawsuits over religion's intrusion into public schools. And thousands of cases that never make it to a lawsuit.
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PS: Let's remember that 'Christian' collective worship **IS REQUIRED BY LAW** in the UK.
Actually it is not possible to force 'worship' by law or any other means. One can only force attendance at the fairytale readings. But you never let facts get in the way, do you?
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WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! My NotBot arguments are so STUPID! WAHHHHHHHHHHHH! My dog is an atheist! WAHHHHH! My pet rock is an atheist! WAHHHHH! And Chipmunk is going to forget that anything in 'iest' must mean humans!
WAHHH!
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Mikko wrote:
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it's like telling people that meat is vegetarian
You should take responsibility for the stupid things you say.

Truly.

I understand: you cannot refute things I have actually said.

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IRYW wrote:
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'Happens all the time' is a colloquial expression, not a statistical claim. ESL courses are available at your local CC.
You should try to pass that class, because 'happens all the time' means: frequently.

And you can't seem to back up your big mouth.

You cried about me responding anecdotally when YOU POSTED it, Moron.

Now there are some 100,000 public schools in the USA, if this happens 'all the time'- frequently- then let's see you back it up.

Keep in mind- compared to the UK, i.e., goal posts- RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTION IS REQUIRED ON A DAILY BASIS.

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But in fact there HAVE been hundreds of lawsuits over religion's intrusion into public schools. And thousands of cases that never make it to a lawsuit.
Which you can't seem to find.

Last year, there were (close to) 100,000 public schools, do show us these hundreds of lawsuits, do let's see you back your big mouth, you must have hundreds of if not lawsuits reports in the news of parents who are complaining about prayers in public schools.

... remembering, of course, that daily 'Christian' worship is LAW in the UK.
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I understand: you cannot refute things I have actually said.
You don't actually say anything. We can all see that what you have done is put a dictionary and a bible in a blender. You fling spoonfuls of the mix onto your scanner and, voila, another post by you.

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Actually it is not possible to force 'worship' by law or any other means.
You are getting pretty desperate, EH?

I guess it's okay when you say children are in the USA "forced" to pray, but in the UK- even though they have a law forcing collective worship, it doesn't count if the kids aren't being sincere.
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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You should try to pass that class, because 'happens all the time' means: frequently.
Frequently there are lawsuits regarding religious intrusion into public schools.
Much more frequently, claims of such intrusion are settled before court action.
Far more frequently teachers and administrators violate the prohibition against religious intrusion in public schools but students/parents are too brainwashed or afraid to speak up.
100% of the time godbots have a cow about this.

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Just as theistic Satanists can be considered a subset of theists.
But he won't admit to that.
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Funny how not only do you have to make up things I don't say and say I did, you now make up things I don't say and insist I won't.
Funny how you respond to something that was talking about "Educated". Are you now claiming to be one and the same?
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Which you can't seem to find.
Last year, there were (close to) 100,000 public schools, do show us these hundreds of lawsuits, do let's see you back your big mouth, you must have hundreds of if not lawsuits reports in the news of parents who are complaining about prayers in public schools..
Umm, my claim isn't in the category of 'god exists'. This stuff is in the news 'all the time'. Do your own research. The ACLU is a good place to start. Oh, wait, are they 'satanists'?
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I guess it's okay when you say children are in the USA "forced" to pray, but in the UK- even though they have a law forcing collective worship, it doesn't count if the kids aren't being sincere.
I never said children are being forced to pray in the USA; no one can be forced to pray to, worship, or believe in skypixies. The law in the USA simply prevents public school employees from supporting endorsing any and all religions as part of their duties to educate children. Check out that CC for ESL courses.
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You should take responsibility for the stupid things you say.
Truly.
I understand: you cannot refute things I have actually said.
argumentum ad hominem

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IRYW wrote:
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Umm, my claim isn't in the category of 'god exists'. This stuff is in the news 'all the time'.?
Funny, how it is in the news all the time... but you can't find it.

Show us where it is in the news TODAY.

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argumentum ad hominem
don't dish it out if you can't take it, Numbnuts.

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IRYW wrote:
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I never said children are being forced to pray in the USA; no one can be forced to pray to
That's a lie as well.

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IRYW wrote:
The law in the USA simply prevents public school employees from supporting endorsing any and all religions as part of their duties to educate children. Check out that CC for ESL courses.
I'm not the one who is rolling around on the floor screaming that school children in the USA are being forced to pray, and then saying well, they aren't being forced... and forced to worship... and then taking that back and saying well... not really worship... well... that there are people in public schools that are religious but they aren't forcing anyone to listen... but... it happens all the time, thousands of times... though you can't find anything to back you up...

COUGH.

To review: UK has **A LAW** with compulsory collective worship, forcing child to pray*(*though of course, no one can be sure if they are being sincere when they are being forced to attend these daily prayers); the US has PROHIBITIONS for exactly this kind of compulsorily religious worship.

No one can be sure of your position, it changes with the wind.

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Drew Smith wrote:
Just as theistic Satanists can be considered a subset of theists.
And the sun rises in the east, and the sun sets in the west...
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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That's a lie as well.
Moron. Both claims are demonstrably true:

1. I never said children are being forced to pray in the USA. Go ahead and find the post.

2. No one can be forced to pray. One can be 'forced' to say words, attend a sermon, sit through religious studies classes, etc. but it is literally impossible to force someone to actually pray, since actual prayer takes place silently in the mind.

Nice try.
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I'm not the one who is rolling around on the floor screaming that school children in the USA are being forced to pray, and then saying well, they aren't being forced... and forced to worship... and then taking that back and saying well... not really worship... well... that there are people in public schools that are religious but they aren't forcing anyone to listen... but... it happens all the time, thousands of times... though you can't find anything to back you up...
I never said that children are being forced to pray. I said that you religious wingnuts are so obsessed with your beliefs that you stop at nothing to push your beliefs on children while they are in public school studying secular subjects. Everyone reading can see your lies.
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To review: UK has **A LAW** with compulsory collective worship, forcing child to pray*(*though of course, no one can be sure if they are being sincere when they are being forced to attend these daily prayers); the US has PROHIBITIONS for exactly this kind of compulsorily religious worship.
Why are you arguing this point with me? THe UK argument was never mine and I have not commented on UK law ever. The only comment I made was that no one can be 'forced' to worship. You do know what worship is, right?

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