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Mac-7 wrote: <quoted text>
It is only a matter of time before India or China begins competing with the United States for the airliner market too.
And when they do their aircraft will be much less costly than a Boeing.
It think we need to open up all federal lands to oil drilling and embark on a major national effort to build nuclear power plants.
That will create jobs and stimulate the economy.
Also we need to begin adding tariffs onto imported products as a way to protect American jobs.
There was a report last week that Senator Chuck Schumer is complaining about the new windmills going up in the new wind farms are using Chinese turbines and blades.
That's insane.
What is manditory vocational training?
Do you mean forcing Americans to attend classes whether they want to or not? Boeing is still one of the largest aircraft builders in the world. Having plants world wide. Airbus is Boeings biggest competitive. Down side to Airbus is their computer controls. If you follow the news of crashes of aircraft's. The majority is Airbus. Now if China goes to build aircraft on large scale, do you think they will have the know how to build a safe plane? Airbus has issues with theirs. Yes Boeing has a problem with 787. But they will resolve it before long. The wind mills should be American made parts. That creates jobs for manufacturing end of it. We already buy enough stuff from other countries. I agree with your point of oil drilling. And other forms of energy here. Sad thing is the democrats block every attempt to do so. It seems they like to remain dependent upon foreign countries for energy. If they "politicians" don't get moving we will be vulnerable to total meltdown. That is if foreign countries say OK enough, we are not selling you oil or any other source. Thanks to democrats not taking steps to ensure our survival will be our demise!
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Bill_S wrote: <quoted text>
Boeing is still one of the largest aircraft builders in the world. Having plants world wide. Airbus is Boeings biggest competitive. Down side to Airbus is their computer controls. If you follow the news of crashes of aircraft's. The majority is Airbus.
Now if China goes to build aircraft on large scale, do you think they will have the know how to build a safe plane?
Airbus has issues with theirs.
Yes Boeing has a problem with 787. But they will resolve it before long.
The wind mills should be American made parts. That creates jobs for manufacturing end of it.
We already buy enough stuff from other countries.
I agree with your point of oil drilling. And other forms of energy here. Sad thing is the democrats block every attempt to do so. It seems they like to remain dependent upon foreign countries for energy.
If they "politicians" don't get moving we will be vulnerable to total meltdown. That is if foreign countries say OK enough, we are not selling you oil or any other source. Thanks to democrats not taking steps to ensure our survival will be our demise! "Bill_S" He has a point on pay scales. As you probably very well know Boeing is going to assemble the 787 in South Carolina. The unions would not play ball, so gone are quality jobs for Washington citizens. Union right or wrong. I do not know. Id know the jobs are gone. Peace
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Mac-7 wrote: <quoted text>
It is only a matter of time before India or China begins competing with the United States for the airliner market too.
And when they do their aircraft will be much less costly than a Boeing.
It think we need to open up all federal lands to oil drilling and embark on a major national effort to build nuclear power plants.
That will create jobs and stimulate the economy.
Also we need to begin adding tariffs onto imported products as a way to protect American jobs.
There was a report last week that Senator Chuck Schumer is complaining about the new windmills going up in the new wind farms are using Chinese turbines and blades.
That's insane.
What is manditory vocational training?
Do you mean forcing Americans to attend classes whether they want to or not? Yes, China has an aircraft that is the equivalent of a 737. Also next year, they will come in with an electric car. There used to be a day (at least in my home town) that you either went to college or you went to the factory. Those days are gone as far as just going to a factory. With globalization, you need an educated society. There is no other way of getting around this. You will need to learn some trade while you are in high school or at least have a counselor to direct you in the right direction. How it is implemented, I don't know, however, it has to be done. We are in competition with 2 to 3 billion people who get paid 1 dollar an hour and no benefits. We cannot take globalization lightly. I would be cautious with tariffs as this is protectionism and other countries will do it too. It will give an false impression on what we can or cannot make here. If you think about it. China has over a billion people, and that means they have 3 times the chance (we have 300 million people) to succeed. They also have economic growth of 8% and we are bogged down with political bickering, deficits, and war. China is building whole cities, building their infrastructure, investing in science, has high speed rail, and the largest airport. I was in Hungary last year and you must know english to attend college. So it is the fight to be number one, by being the brightest and best in what you do. http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm... You are assuming that "forcing" is an evil thing. The fact remains is that we have globalization, and THAT is forcing us to find ways to compete in the world.
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“DEUS MOS AFFIRMO VOS VEREOR”
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Nostrilis Waxman wrote: <quoted text>
Ahhh, I see you've had the pleasure of meeting 2008Bill. If you provde him wrong, he will lie and change the subject. He did fess up at a simple math error though. Sure he fessed up. As I said before,he had no choice as the laughter was deafening.
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“The Obama Energy Plan”
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Bill_S wrote: <quoted text>
Now if you added everything up? You would have seen the money allotted for roads, resurfacing, bridges, high speed rail and various other things. They far out weigh anything else! We were talking about roads and bridges which is money that will stay in America. High speed rail is not something that is going to be a reality for many years and most of the money will go to foreign companies that we buy the trains from. Besides you should not have said all the money in your state was going to infanstructure when it clearly isn't.
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EasyEed wrote: <quoted text>
"Bill_S"
He has a point on pay scales. As you probably very well know Boeing is going to assemble the 787 in South Carolina. The unions would not play ball, so gone are quality jobs for Washington citizens. Union right or wrong. I do not know. Id know the jobs are gone.
Peace The plant in South Carolina is a 2nd facility for Boeing. They are still going to build them here. There is lot of politics involved there. Boeing wanted the union to sign a no strike clause for 10 years without guarantee of contract to the workers. Now lot of what Boeing is doing is this: once 777 is winding down there will be more lay offs. They are in hopes of hiring those workers in SC at a reduced rate. They most likely will relocate eventually if the assembly of the planes go well. So there is lot of what ifs here. So much for unions getting favor from bozo.
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Bill_S wrote: <quoted text>
Have you ever had to get anything from the government? Yeah just as I thought.
The turn around time for them to review respond and get back to you is crazy. And they want to control health care now? Get real Billy open your eyes.
As for what I asked several times you still fail to reply to the direct question without blaming Bush.
So now another question: If this health care does go through and it ends up costing millions of jobs and the actual costs are over a trillion dollars, are you going to blame Bush for that as well?
You seem to be racial motivated in all your responses. Wanting to blame a guy not in office.
It is like a black guy blaming me for slavery. I didn't do it nor have I ever. See my point? I believe I have posted this here before, but for your sake I will post it again. I use the VA hospital for most of my care, not because I can, but because they give me great health care. I am mailed a letter to remind me to make my 6 month wellness appointment well in advance. Complete lab work is collected each time I go, so when I see my doctor we can review the results right on his computer screen together to see if there are any problems. For example, last check up he noticed I was vitamin D deficient, so he prescribed some hi-potency D capsules to take once a week for 8 weeks, and he encouraged me to be sure to take over the counter D supplements on a daily basis. When I go back in six months, he will look at the labs again, and see how I am doing. This is just one example of the kind of care that all people should be receiving. I doubt seriously that most Private doctors will take wellness labs twice per year, I would bet that you would have to ask for them, and then it would be just a specific lab test based on your complaint. Private doctors are more interested in providing specialty work for you because they can make more money at it. Remember, 87% of all medical graduates are specialists, the other 13 percent are primary care doctors. At the VA, if I need to go to acute care or ER, I can go and be able to see a doctor much faster than our local hospital (the local hospital can take 4,6 or 8 hours to even be seen. At the VA I can usually get in within 2 hours. Is the VA government health care? I think it is. Finally, how do you explain the fact that our Federal Government can provide the training required to have the finest military forces in the World, and then state at the same time, government is incompetent at running anything??
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“The Obama Energy Plan”
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Bill_S wrote: <quoted text>
Boeing is still one of the largest aircraft builders in the world. Having plants world wide. Airbus is Boeings biggest competitive. Down side to Airbus is their computer controls. If you follow the news of crashes of aircraft's. The majority is Airbus.
Now if China goes to build aircraft on large scale, do you think they will have the know how to build a safe plane?
Airbus has issues with theirs.
Yes Boeing has a problem with 787. But they will resolve it before long.
The wind mills should be American made parts. That creates jobs for manufacturing end of it.
We already buy enough stuff from other countries.
I agree with your point of oil drilling. And other forms of energy here. Sad thing is the democrats block every attempt to do so. It seems they like to remain dependent upon foreign countries for energy.
If they "politicians" don't get moving we will be vulnerable to total meltdown. That is if foreign countries say OK enough, we are not selling you oil or any other source. Thanks to democrats not taking steps to ensure our survival will be our demise! You just said Boing has plants world wide. Doesn't that include China? If so you're not saying that the Chinese Boings are junk are you? The Chinese have made me a believer. They are where America was around 1900. At that time the technology leaders were in Europe but the US was mastering the art of mass production. The sons of illiterate factory workers grew up to be engineers or highly skilled technicians. And their sons and grandsons became the scientists who have lead the world in so many fields for 50 years. China is going through that same progression now.
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Pfluger the Union Monkey wrote: <quoted text>
Yup, after the 9/11 attacks, Bush denounced the terrorists and said they'd be hearing from us soon.
After the Fort Hood terrorist attacks, Obama in a speech gave a "shout out" to his "homies."
Obama the Muslim Homie. Now Fort Hood is a preplanned Terrorist attack?? LOL! This was a deranged man with mental illness. So are you calling the shooter who killed the abortion doctor, a Pro-Life Attack?? LOL!
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Where are those 600,000 jobs ObamaTurkey promised us? Are they in China?
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What have we become? What are we doing to ourselves? Many here can not even conduct themselves with a modicum of class or respect, let alone know how precious freedom and liberty is. Many of the founding fathers knew we would become to stupid and greedy to keep the gift they fought for and delivered. That very end was the purpose of the layers of checks and balances, designed to prevent any one entity of government to become tyrannical. The free press, and a well armed citizenry the final measure of check against the encroachment of government in our lives. HR45 will be an added measure this congress is working to impose on lady liberty's citizens, along with some form of a "Fairness Doctrine" to quiet the voices of opposition to this "progressive" movement to deliver the US and its people to the world. Not as a world leader, or world power, but as a player in what we know as the UN. Silly humans.
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Bill_S wrote: <quoted text>
Boeing is still one of the largest aircraft builders in the world. Having plants world wide. Airbus is Boeings biggest competitive. Down side to Airbus is their computer controls. If you follow the news of crashes of aircraft's. The majority is Airbus.
Now if China goes to build aircraft on large scale, do you think they will have the know how to build a safe plane?
Airbus has issues with theirs.
Yes Boeing has a problem with 787. But they will resolve it before long.
The wind mills should be American made parts. That creates jobs for manufacturing end of it.
We already buy enough stuff from other countries.
I agree with your point of oil drilling. And other forms of energy here. Sad thing is the democrats block every attempt to do so. It seems they like to remain dependent upon foreign countries for energy.
If they "politicians" don't get moving we will be vulnerable to total meltdown. That is if foreign countries say OK enough, we are not selling you oil or any other source. Thanks to democrats not taking steps to ensure our survival will be our demise! Baaken Fields in the northern United States comprising the Dakotas and Eastern Montana is believed to have as much as 2 trillion barrels of high grade, sweet crude. New horizontal drilling techniques make it accessible. More oil then all the middle eastern countries combined.
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2008bill wrote: <quoted text>
I believe I have posted this here before, but for your sake I will post it again. I use the VA hospital for most of my care, not because I can, but because they give me great health care. I am mailed a letter to remind me to make my 6 month wellness appointment well in advance.
Complete lab work is collected each time I go, so when I see my doctor we can review the results right on his computer screen together to see if there are any problems. For example, last check up he noticed I was vitamin D deficient, so he prescribed some hi-potency D capsules to take once a week for 8 weeks, and he encouraged me to be sure to take over the counter D supplements on a daily basis. When I go back in six months, he will look at the labs again, and see how I am doing.
This is just one example of the kind of care that all people should be receiving. I doubt seriously that most Private doctors will take wellness labs twice per year, I would bet that you would have to ask for them, and then it would be just a specific lab test based on your complaint. Private doctors are more interested in providing specialty work for you because they can make more money at it. Remember, 87% of all medical graduates are specialists, the other 13 percent are primary care doctors.
At the VA, if I need to go to acute care or ER, I can go and be able to see a doctor much faster than our local hospital (the local hospital can take 4,6 or 8 hours to even be seen. At the VA I can usually get in within 2 hours.
Is the VA government health care? I think it is.
Finally, how do you explain the fact that our Federal Government can provide the training required to have the finest military forces in the World, and then state at the same time, government is incompetent at running anything?? Actually my old medical insurance did mail outs regularly. Never had to wait for hours walk in sit maybe few min then in I go. Never had complaints. Now county which is a gov ran facility is SLLLLLLLLOW. I never had to use one, but hat is a gov ran place and it sucks. As for VA? Used to take an uncle to one and they were slow. Always had issues. So A- you are either lying which you do a lot. Or B- you live in such a small town they don't have many vets! Actually after I turned 40 I received reminders about every 6 months reminding me to get checked. So they do that.
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Mac-7 wrote: <quoted text>
You just said Boing has plants world wide.
Doesn't that include China?
If so you're not saying that the Chinese Boings are junk are you?
The Chinese have made me a believer.
They are where America was around 1900.
At that time the technology leaders were in Europe but the US was mastering the art of mass production.
The sons of illiterate factory workers grew up to be engineers or highly skilled technicians.
And their sons and grandsons became the scientists who have lead the world in so many fields for 50 years.
China is going through that same progression now. China uses cheap labor and the world knows that. Look at issues with structures for the Olympics! They are coming into the scene as a power player in the industrialized world finally. They still have many areas to master. But as far as aircraft? I wouldn't fly anything but Boeing.
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2008bill wrote: <quoted text>
I believe I have posted this here before, but for your sake I will post it again. I use the VA hospital for most of my care, not because I can, but because they give me great health care. I am mailed a letter to remind me to make my 6 month wellness appointment well in advance.
Complete lab work is collected each time I go, so when I see my doctor we can review the results right on his computer screen together to see if there are any problems. For example, last check up he noticed I was vitamin D deficient, so he prescribed some hi-potency D capsules to take once a week for 8 weeks, and he encouraged me to be sure to take over the counter D supplements on a daily basis. When I go back in six months, he will look at the labs again, and see how I am doing.
This is just one example of the kind of care that all people should be receiving. I doubt seriously that most Private doctors will take wellness labs twice per year, I would bet that you would have to ask for them, and then it would be just a specific lab test based on your complaint. Private doctors are more interested in providing specialty work for you because they can make more money at it. Remember, 87% of all medical graduates are specialists, the other 13 percent are primary care doctors.
At the VA, if I need to go to acute care or ER, I can go and be able to see a doctor much faster than our local hospital (the local hospital can take 4,6 or 8 hours to even be seen. At the VA I can usually get in within 2 hours.
Is the VA government health care? I think it is.
Finally, how do you explain the fact that our Federal Government can provide the training required to have the finest military forces in the World, and then state at the same time, government is incompetent at running anything?? I missed replying to last part. The military plans and lay out orders not the pres. The gov takes into account what the generals and other officers to plan. And make provisions to accommodate the generals well supposed to. Bozo keeps avoiding his general. If left to a pres like bozo? We would lose 1st day. Look at SSI, Look at welfare, look at US postal service. It's a mess and going broke. WHY? My point is they screw up everything! Military is ran by soldiers with "funding" only. Do you see the political figures fighting? Do you see them in the streets with weapons? No. So keep trying Billy you are still a disgrace in my book to sit back and say it's OK for soldiers to die. Bush asked for more funding to send more troops and dems dragged their feet then. Now bozo is dragging his feet again. So billy go away you are a liar a snake a dogger of facts. And racist towards Americans.
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Econ 101 wrote: <quoted text> How many lies can you make- let me count the ways 1- The income cutoff for the top 1% was was $410,096 as of teh most recent IRS data, not $435,000 2-I hope you don't do your own taxes if you calculated the tax savings to be $64,000. the closest i could find to a real example shoed a family of 4 making $300,000 saving $8,800 in taxes. At a 35% marginal rate from 300 to 410 the tax would be 38k so the total tax savings is about $47,000, not 64,000 as you claim. http://tax.cchgroup.com/news/taxbrief_01-08.p... 3-You cannot prove the claim that the rich invested the difference in the mnarket. and data shows that nearly 85% of ALL INDIVIDUALS have an investment in the market either directly or through a ira, 401k or pension plan so your claim is completely without merit You can try and twist the data all you want butthe bottom line is that the top 1% ALREADY pay their fair share and obama is not just allowing the bush cuts to expire but adding to the tax burden. the recent IRS data bolsters the findings of an OECD study released last year showing that the U.S.—not France or Sweden—has the most progressive income tax system among OECD nations. We rely more heavily on the top 10 percent of taxpayers than does any nation and our poor people have the lowest tax burden of those in any nation. Even after the bush tax cuts, the percent of the total taxes paid by the top 1% increased further. Your data has nothing to do with the fact that the amount PAID by the top 1% as a % of the total increased. So what idf the tax cuts allowed them to pay less than before. It just means that they use that extar money to buy goods and services, resulting in jobs and additional tax revenues and economic growth.(as proven by economic data release in teh years following the cuts) Earmarks and gov't waste prove that the gov't is not an efficient allocater of capital and teh most productive use is by individuals allowed to keep and spend more of their own income. Sorry, I guess I missed posting my link: http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/george_w__bu... You sound just like Bush though....the same double speak that got us into this mess.
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Mac-7 wrote: <quoted text>
I agree that we need to fix the economic situation.
What I want to see is lower government spending combined with lower payroll and corporate taxes as the fastest and best way to stimulate the economy.
And government spending for stimulus should be for real infastructure projects like roads and bridges, harbors, and other transportation projects.
We should also be doing more reduce our dependence on foreign oil which will involve creating job in the domestic oil industry, building nuclear power plants and yes, even windmills where they are practical.
Some of those projects would involve government money but in most cases it just means letting private capital do what it does best.
We could also put millions of Americans back to work by enforcing our immigration laws and deporting everyone who is here illegally. Corporate Tax Rates were reduced t 35%, Capital Gains taxes were reduced from 20% to 15%, all of this under the Bush Administration. When Bush went into Office the Unemployment rate in America was 4.2%, when he left the White House outside of collapesing the American Economy, Unemployment was over 8.0% Based on this historical destruction to the American Economy, how have you found your statement: "lower payroll and corporate taxes as the fastest and best way to stimulate the economy." What evidence do you have to verify that statement, It's not worked over the previous 8 years under Bush and the Republicans and The 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were the largest in American History. So how do you validate that statement? Based on facts, and not whatever distorted theory you are depending on to make your failed argument appear creditible? ROFLMAO... come on when Bush was given the keys to the White House America was gaining more than 250,000 Jobs a Month, when Bush was shown the Exit from the White House, Americans were loosing more than 750,000 Jobs a Month. Under Bush and his tax policies America's Unemployment Rate rise faster than a Hookers Skirt in the Alley behind the White House.
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This was sent to me from congressman where I used to live. Don't you find it odd the news sources like cnn msnbc didn't even touch anything the Repubilcans proposed? Seriously it is wrong when news sources like CNN and MSNBC avoid one side and only show the other. Sent from David Dreier: It is unfortunate that some in the healthcare debate have put forward a false choice - the Pelosi plan or nothing. That has never been the case but this past weekend, the Democratic Majority jammed through their government takeover of healthcare on a near party-line vote. The difficulty they had in passing this legislation was an indication of the unpopularity of this measure which raises taxes, increases costs, and burdens future generations with unfathomable debt. Meanwhile, Republicans put forward a genuine reform proposal that took a fundamentally different approach to addressing our healthcare challenges. Our approach tackles affordability, making healthcare coverage more accessible for all. By curbing lawsuit abuse, empowering small businesses to pool together to buy coverage, allowing portability and incentivizing families through tax relief to save for their medical expenses, we can bring down the costs of healthcare for all Americans. And we can do it without increasing the deficit and raising taxes at a time of economic uncertainty. Republicans are committed to bringing down costs and increasing access to affordable healthcare for all Americans. But we don't want to do further harm to our economy to do it. Ultimately, that was the difference between the Pelosi and Republican plans. I believe we pursued the right approach and we will continue making our case as this debate moves forward.
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