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Jul 21, 2008

League Of Conservation Voters To Endorse Obama

In an election all about change, environmental groups are doing the usual _ endorsing the Democratic presidential candidate.

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John Briner

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The envorinment is important

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John Briner wrote:
The envorinment is important
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Indeed.

We'll be able to replace oil with renewables but we can't replace the environment.

There are currently two comprehensive plans being worked out by the Apollo Alliance and T Boone Pickens that clearly demonstrate what we need to do and how it will be good for both us, the environment, and our economy:

http://www.apolloalliance.org/resources_tenpo...

www.pickensplan.com

Both show that protecting our environment and improving our economy are now complimentary issues.

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Miyamoto Musashi

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Leftist environmentalists are using the environment to impact politic, not the other way around. They repeat falsehoods in such shrill fashion it is called fear-mongering. This abuse of science and fact has reached a fevered pitch in their misuse and abuse of children to push fear on the American public. They use children, who haven't the foundation, or maturity to understand what the Leftist adults are having them promote. Leftists rob children of their childhood and indoctrinate them with fear and anger in emotional television ads that do not show rational discussion, but only fear and anger. They are brainwashing children for political gain. They have no shame. Right in your face they abuse children by having them act out adult misperceptions and irrationality. That is the character of the Left's disregard for core human values... If you can't kill them in the womb, abuse them by the age of nine.

http://www.fightglobalwarming.com
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Miyamoto Musashi wrote:
Leftist environmentalists are using the environment to impact politic, not the other way around. They repeat falsehoods in such shrill fashion it is called fear-mongering. This abuse of science and fact has reached a fevered pitch in their misuse and abuse of children to push fear on the American public. They use children, who haven't the foundation, or maturity to understand what the Leftist adults are having them promote. Leftists rob children of their childhood and indoctrinate them with fear and anger in emotional television ads that do not show rational discussion, but only fear and anger. They are brainwashing children for political gain. They have no shame. Right in your face they abuse children by having them act out adult misperceptions and irrationality. That is the character of the Left's disregard for core human values... If you can't kill them in the womb, abuse them by the age of nine.
http://www.fightglobalwarming.com
Only deluded individuals cling to their belief that global warming is a "falsehood" of a "misconception." Even Bush was forced to recognize the problem, although he's done nothing about it. Open your eyes and mind, then read the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Miyamoto Musashi

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The issue isn't global warming, it's abuse of children by Leftist creeps wanting you to believe it's caused by human activities. Instead of exhibiting the angers taught many young children by evil men and women, why don't you go plug some of the volcanoes and stop those lava flows? Current global warming is simply a reversal of the last mini Ice Age.

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Only deluded individuals cling to their belief that global warming is a "falsehood" of a "misconception." Even Bush was forced to recognize the problem, although he's done nothing about it. Open your eyes and mind, then read the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

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To hell with the environment!
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Miyamoto Musashi wrote:
Leftist environmentalists are using the environment to impact politic, not the other way around. They repeat falsehoods in such shrill fashion it is called fear-mongering. This abuse of science and fact has reached a fevered pitch in their misuse and abuse of children to push fear on the American public. They use children, who haven't the foundation, or maturity to understand what the Leftist adults are having them promote. Leftists rob children of their childhood and indoctrinate them with fear and anger in emotional television ads that do not show rational discussion, but only fear and anger. They are brainwashing children for political gain. They have no shame. Right in your face they abuse children by having them act out adult misperceptions and irrationality. That is the character of the Left's disregard for core human values... If you can't kill them in the womb, abuse them by the age of nine.
http://www.fightglobalwarming.com
And just where do you get the facts to support your position?? Or is this just a knee jerk opinion? Facts man, facts!

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And just where do you get the facts to support your position?? Or is this just a knee jerk opinion? Facts man, facts!
Just like the Goracle's facts? Do you mean the graph with no numbers on it. Makes it easy to skew, huh? Why are more and more 'respected' scientists becoming skeptics everyday.
BTW, google the Goracle's energy bills at his home. Seems I remember an old saying,'practice what you preach'.
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There was a mini Ice Age about four hundred years ago, which caused phenomenal loss of northern lands previously cultivated and large population shifts to the south. Researching "mini Ice Age" should give you oodles of data regarding human impact.

The unreliability of sanctioned studies can be shown by the huge "Global 2000" two tome report done during the Carter administration. According to that report's worst case scenarios coastal US cities should have been under water by now. The report coincided with the American Left's oft discussed and published desires to maintain political control while and after losing Vietnam as an issue. The largely communist elements in those publications decided on the environment as being the way to keep political control. Those discussions can be found in the old Ramparts and Seven Days publications and a few books, which I'd have to dig up from boxes.

The post of course had to do with the crazy environmental groups now abusing children and a link was given that had the videos they have currently pandered. The psychological abuse and robbing of children of their childhoods for political purpose is quite similar to crazy Muslims beating their kids over their heads with swords until they bleed. The mindset of the American Left is becoming more like the radical Muslims... They've emboldened them, given them talking points and now... They abuse and ruin their own children. It's sick.

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And just where do you get the facts to support your position?? Or is this just a knee jerk opinion? Facts man, facts!

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It's a real shame that political POS on both sides of this issue and both sides of US polity are clouding important issues for they and their parties gain. This is our offspring's clean air and water that is being used as the political coin of the day - there is no excuse for that.
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To hell with the environment!
Yes Gore is mouthing off about natural occurances that follow the Gulf Stream River in history, and even the Scientists he is Qoued. Is backing away and will not have anything with Gore Enviromental Terrorists. If your a scientests that doesn't agree with them you are Black Ball Like they did Actors in HollyWood..
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Tex wrote:
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Only deluded individuals cling to their belief that global warming is a "falsehood" of a "misconception." Even Bush was forced to recognize the problem, although he's done nothing about it. Open your eyes and mind, then read the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm
Sure and what about the mini ice age that saved this nation at he time, Hope you love eating snow when you see it coming back soon
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League of conservations voters is just another homosexual group. Of course they will vote for any liberal leftist.

Most of them are racists, just like OBAMA YO-MAMA.
JDE

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League of conservations voters is just another homosexual group. Of course they will vote for any liberal leftist.
Most of them are racists, just like OBAMA YO-MAMA.
that way they can get carbon credits with money that goes no where, you can conserve what the people have done way before you correct 1000 years of errors

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that way they can get carbon credits with money that goes no where, you can conserve what the people have done way before you correct 1000 years of errors
Carbon Credits are the FLIM-FLAM SCAM of the century. These are worse investments than buying worthless printed stock shares. This scam is going to bigger than the mortage meltdown since carbon credits dont buy anything, the money just goes into the pockets of activists. BUY GORE BONDS and save the world. This is what these snaake oil activists want you to believe.

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Miyamoto Musashi wrote:
There was a mini Ice Age about four hundred years ago, which caused phenomenal loss of northern lands previously cultivated and large population shifts to the south. Researching "mini Ice Age" should give you oodles of data regarding human impact.
The unreliability of sanctioned studies can be shown by the huge "Global 2000" two tome report done during the Carter administration. According to that report's worst case scenarios coastal US cities should have been under water by now. The report coincided with the American Left's oft discussed and published desires to maintain political control while and after losing Vietnam as an issue. The largely communist elements in those publications decided on the environment as being the way to keep political control. Those discussions can be found in the old Ramparts and Seven Days publications and a few books, which I'd have to dig up from boxes.
The post of course had to do with the crazy environmental groups now abusing children and a link was given that had the videos they have currently pandered. The psychological abuse and robbing of children of their childhoods for political purpose is quite similar to crazy Muslims beating their kids over their heads with swords until they bleed. The mindset of the American Left is becoming more like the radical Muslims... They've emboldened them, given them talking points and now... They abuse and ruin their own children. It's sick.
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Your level of delusional stupidity, complete paranoia, utter absence of any fact-based reasoning or source, and the total insanity that you sputter is now becoming less and less amusing, Mishymashi.

How about you back up your postulating bullshit with facts ?
You seem fine with the propaganda matrix convincing young Americans to go fight and die for big oil and corporate greed, but woe is you when the more alert members of the Human race start pointing out the climate-change that WE have largely been responsible for.
Oh no, in Mishymashi's narrow neoconned world, it's all a "Leftist plot" !

Back up your outlandish statements with fact, or go cool your head in a melting glacier.

And "No." Junk science is NOT fact.

“Cogito Ergo Sum”

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Wake up USA wrote:
<quoted text>Carbon Credits are the FLIM-FLAM SCAM of the century. These are worse investments than buying worthless printed stock shares. This scam is going to bigger than the mortage meltdown since carbon credits dont buy anything, the money just goes into the pockets of activists. BUY GORE BONDS and save the world. This is what these snaake oil activists want you to believe.
..and you believe what ?
Who fills your echo-chamber with thoughts and "facts" that make you assertive enough to dismiss carbon-tax and credits as just a "scam" ?

Back up your belief that it's a scam.

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Pierre France wrote:
<quoted text>..and you believe what ?
Who fills your echo-chamber with thoughts and "facts" that make you assertive enough to dismiss carbon-tax and credits as just a "scam" ?
Back up your belief that it's a scam.
Wait and see. If you believe in them then you believe there is a tooth ferry.

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That's "tooth fairy".
Maybe a ferry takes the dead teeth across the Styx ?

So, why do you think the carbon-credit idea won't work, or at least function as an incentive to change ?
Are you dismissing people who may just have more of a clue than you based on heresay, or do you rate your sources as being correct ? Where do you get your facts from, "Wake up USA" ?
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al gore and nancy pelosi have urged about 3000 followers in texas to blog about their global warming agenda. these people are generally supported by our liberal democrats with grants (our taxes). it supports their lawyers who in turn attack oil companies which ties up their leases for years! then the liberal left looks the other way and says, the oil companies are not honoring their leases! when bill clinton was president the house and senate passed a bill to drill in anwar!!!!!!!!!! bill clinton veted that bill.
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