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Apr 22, 2008

Ohio Public School Teacher Ordered To Remove Bible From Classroom Desk

A standoff may be in the works between a public school teacher in Ohio and his bosses, who ordered him to hide his personal Bible from students.

John Freshwater has taught science at Mount Vernon Middle School for 20 years and last year was named "Teacher of the Year." For the past 18 years, Freshwater has kept his personal Bible on his desk in order to provide strength and encouragement.

Administrators recently ordered Freshwater to remove the Bible, citing a violation of separation of church and state. But Freshwater's spokesman, Dave Daubenmire of Pass the Salt Ministries, says the First Amendment gives Freshwater the right to keep his Bible on his personal desk.

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old vet

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It is beyond absurd to claim that visible possession of a Bible violates "separaton of church and state". It is even more absurd to claim that it violates the First Amendment.
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The ACLU was founded to spread Communism. I don't know who turned the United States Constitution over to them for re-interpretation. You'll probably find that our left wing judges were all members of the ACLU and follow the Communist Manifesto rather than the U.S.Constitution.

I hope Mr. Freshwater and his class are not intimidated by these pinko's.
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old vet wrote:
It is beyond absurd to claim that visible possession of a Bible violates "separaton of church and state". It is even more absurd to claim that it violates the First Amendment.
well now that AMericans are (hopefully) more educated, which i seriously doubt judging by the way evangelicals brainwash thier children, I would hope that people realize there are religions that predate theirs, even though christians are well known for stroking the ego that Buddhists constantly warn about.
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I dont like christians, I have my reasons, most corporations are christian, and Russia was not a commie country, it was a Nazi country full of Orthodox Russians, the only reason McCarthy said they were Commie is because he is a lying sack of sh!t, just like all the other christians.
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The Holocaust was a very christian act, and anyone thinking that they were not true christians need thier head examined. I see street preachers holding up signs of hate, and yet theyre excused because "theyre just preaching" even though they preach hate, intolerance, and ignorance. Im ashamed that PA is a Northern state, it doesnt have the hallmark of a Northern state, it sold out to Catholics and Fundie christians that like to move around.
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Ellie Mae wrote:
The ACLU was founded to spread Communism. I don't know who turned the United States Constitution over to them for re-interpretation. You'll probably find that our left wing judges were all members of the ACLU and follow the Communist Manifesto rather than the U.S.Constitution.
I hope Mr. Freshwater and his class are not intimidated by these pinko's.
Well the alternative is Nazism, concentration camp and whatever else comes with it.
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I grew up christian, i feel like ive been cheated and lied to. Its a religion of lies, my husband had four NDEs yet some drooling idiot dancing in the pews convinces millions of sheep that christianity is the one true religion. Us Pagans are getting fed up with the christian taliban, and if i had the man power, id love to give the christians thier just desserts. Otherwise, america will look as bad as Africa, but nobody knows what goes on there, cause theyre too wrapped up in thier own shallow lives to care.
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I dont like muslims either, yet in India muslims and christians tag team to get rid of Hindus. Then they turn around and play victim when the Hindus attack them back.
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Ellie Mae wrote:
The ACLU was founded to spread Communism. I don't know who turned the United States Constitution over to them for re-interpretation. You'll probably find that our left wing judges were all members of the ACLU and follow the Communist Manifesto rather than the U.S.Constitution.
I hope Mr. Freshwater and his class are not intimidated by these pinko's.
Your bible says women should shut up and listen to their husbands, since you believe that crap, i suggest you actually follow it. An ignorant woman that doesnt know her rights shouldnt have any.

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I dont like christians, I have my reasons, most corporations are christian, and Russia was not a commie country, it was a Nazi country full of Orthodox Russians, the only reason McCarthy said they were Commie is because he is a lying sack of sh!t, just like all the other christians.
our public schools at their finest...
farting out imbeciles like brian here...

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what i was going to say was ... before i was distracted.
i'll bet there wouldn't have been a word said if it was a koran instead of a bible
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mount vernon middle school administrators are imbeciles to the highest degree !!!! they need to be "re-trained" at getmo...i'll be happy to give the fist lesson.
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No offense, I grew up in a very religious home, but all this overdone religous extremism is no good. The sad part is, it's all brought about by a man in the White House, who merely used religion in order to get elected, and doesn't care a hill of beans about anything other than money and corporate America. As if God cares about either. People, what kind of person professes to be so relgious, and wants a job of a politican???? It ain't rocket science. None of these "holier than thou" politicans care to become Priest, Ministers, Reverands, or anything else pertaining to God. They want to become politicans, where all the MONEY is. I rest my case!
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our public schools at their finest...
farting out imbeciles like brian here...
I bet you were homeschooled then, you third grade flunkie. Its sad that someone who doesnt have a good argument against my statement resorts to insults. Typical christian behavior. BTW name is Bria you chavanist pig.
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This would be like asking a democrat to put away his crack!
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I find it no coincidence you joined on september 11, bah, patriotism is for the weak minded.
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what i was going to say was ... before i was distracted.
i'll bet there wouldn't have been a word said if it was a koran instead of a bible
Actually, there are people that dont like either, because they see all of monotheism as hateful, prejudiced and ignorant.
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<quoted text> Your bible says women should shut up and listen to their husbands, since you believe that crap, i suggest you actually follow it. An ignorant woman that doesnt know her rights shouldnt have any.
A woman's civil rights were drawn up only because a woman isn't equal to Men. That's just fact. We had to draw up un-natural laws so a woman could have a somewhat equal voice in our society.

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I bet you were homeschooled then, you third grade flunkie. Its sad that someone who doesnt have a good argument against my statement resorts to insults. Typical christian behavior. BTW name is Bria you chavanist pig.
a good arguement???
to what? you're moronic rants about religion?
nobody gives a rat's ass if you like or dislike religion. sounds to me like you have a few issues...
was high school a nightmare? no prom date?
btw, you're name SHOULD BE brainless.

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Actually, there are people that dont like either, because they see all of monotheism as hateful, prejudiced and ignorant.
hateful, prejudice and ignorant ... sounds like that's right up your alley, brainless.
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