Obama Pulls Ahead in Superdelegate Count

Phoenix wrote:

<quoted text>That's not at all what I'm saying. I had earlier used the word champion and was responding to the poster because the way she used the word had a differant meanig than I intended. Your interpretation is what is divisive, what I meant was that part of the reason for overwhelming support among Blacks is that they will have overcome a great barrier if a person of their color can become President.I do not believe that the only reason Whites would not vote for Obama is fear.

How would you expect me to interpurt your post? This is what you said. But after reading your response ok I can accept that but you didn't have say my interpurtation was divisive. Don't be so sensative. I don't blame AA for voting for BO. I totally understand why they would and totally accept it. Nothing wrong with that but what I do hate is the fact that BO supporters call anyone a racist who refuses to vote for them. That is not true and it only causes more people to get ticked off. The funniest thing is that 99% of the people who use the race care are not even AA.

Cheers!

ladydi wrote:

<quoted text>No....they just explained WHY they do not support Obama,

The only problem is that I didn't ask WHY they don't support Obama, I asked for political reasons WHY they support the candidate they do other than their not being Obama. It's like asking Hill and McCain supporters to turn water into wine... they can't do it.

Wild Irish Rose2 wrote:

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LMAO! In other words, you're an educated pompous azz! The Republican Party is full of your kind.
Are you suggesting that only an elite group of the populace be allowed to vote? Would you suggest we take the Black vote away and repeal the Nineteenth Amendment which gave women suffrage? I find you somewhat amusing.
And no, I'll decline your offer to be "inundated with information." I can read also and I don't trust other peoples' interpretations of historical information.
We are not living in the 18th Century no matter how much education you have or how many thousands of pages you've read.

Over-reactionary. Jim was not suggesting anything of which you accuse him. He said that the founders thought that the power of the vote demands knowledge and responsibility.

EricDallas wrote:

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If you are against the white race, standing with the cotton pickers, then you ARE one of them.
Good luck with that. When there is an economic disaster, and your black friends take to the streets and kick in your door, I hope you remember this. It will happen, remember the Rodney King arrest? That was nothing. Wait till these savages have no money. Ha Ha HA

Thank you Eric. At least you have the cojones to be honest and wear your true colors on your sleave, unlike these other passive/aggressive *cough coughcoonmuble coughniggerscough* naysayers around here.

Be Reasonable wrote:

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I'm curious, which leftist ideas are you referring to? It seems to me that there was never a great divide between the ideas of Clinton and Obama.

First his statement about rural voters. Second he is not even campaigning in WV. Guess he is writting off those voters because he knows they won't vote for him. He doesn't give a darn about a large segment of the population. He is out of touch with the working class. Did you hear that he even said he has been to 57 states? DUH? When did we add an additional 7 states? I got to go out and buy a new flag. Anyhow even without the elitist part. He is way too liberal for me. Can you tell me one single thing he has done for the middle class? Why did he vote "present" for so many bills? I just don't get it?

OneRyder wrote:

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I just went to Wikipedia. They have a good defintion you could read for yourself. Then try someplace else. That should answer your question for you.

CNN as well.

Ya Think wrote:

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If Clinton and Obama are so close on the issues - would the fact that 90 percent of blacks are supporting Obama not show blacks don't care about issues - just color?

Does not mean that they do not care about the issues. But if the candidates are equal on most issues, then the glass ceiling becomes the tiebreaker. That is a legitimate issue, and it is not racism.

those people in washingtos is as stupid as the rest of the world is all obma gets it black votes and stupied white bitches.

Tony17 wrote:

Could someone s'plain to me exactly what a 'DELEGATE' is and how it works as for as voting is concerned? I honestly do not know how this DELEGATE crap works. I'm being honest here.

In order for an American presidential candidate to win the nomination of their party, an individual must receive the minimum number of delegates from their party constitutes.

Here is the breakdown...

http://us-elections.suite101.com/article.cfm/...

smithnya wrote:

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Ok, so Hillary won't win the nomination, then the logical choice is to vote for the third Bush term? Really? is Obama so terrible that you would rather have 4 more years of the failed policies we've had for the past. You, my friend, are either blowing smoke up everyone's butt, or you are just venting.
I am a Hillary supporter, but there's no way I'm voting for Bush to serve out his 3rd term. A Democrat, especially Obama, is way better than the same-old-same-old, white, old-age, GOP stuff that the Republicans keep regurgitating every election cycle.
And yes, I'm a white American, but I have no trouble whatsoever with voting for someone different for a change.

Not venting and also not blowing smoke! Obama is the least experienced of the candidates...he can't state a simple declarative sentence without rambling...Mrs. Clinton was the best---articulate, passionate and compassionate about American issues, brilliant...and many more attributes I admire. Watching her on the April 16 debate before the Pennsylvania win was so inspiring! The debate also demonstrated Mr. Obama's lack of spontaneity and indecisiveness. Mr. McCain does not agree with President Bush on a great number of issues.

Tony17 wrote:

Could someone s'plain to me exactly what a 'DELEGATE' is and how it works as for as voting is concerned? I honestly do not know how this DELEGATE crap works. I'm being honest here.

You can see delegates as points. Every state has points to give to every nominee. Depending on the number of people living in the state, the state has a number of points to give. A state will a lot of people hase more points to give than a state with less people.
Not every state has the same system to give away the points.
Some states give every nominee a share, depending on the percentage of votes they got. Other states use the winner takes all principle. And there are states who don't give away all the points, but hold a few back to give at the final convention after all primaries are finished.

Then on the convention the SUPER delegates, party hot shots, could overrule the American voters and choose whoever they like.
They can, but they don't. They will choose the nominee with the most delegate points.

In this case they will choose Obama, like they are doing right now by endorsing him.
At this moment Obama does not only lead the delegate points, but also the endorment of the Superdelegates.

As I see it, delegates can overrule the American voters.

Robin The First wrote:

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The only problem is that I didn't ask WHY they don't support Obama, I asked for political reasons WHY they support the candidate they do other than their not being Obama. It's like asking Hill and McCain supporters to turn water into wine... they can't do it.

People tell you but you refuse to listen.

1. She has a better plan of getting us out of Iraq.(Bo's view is not even supported by his own advisors. Now that makes me really comfortable that our yount men and women will come home safely)

2. She is much stronger on the economy. This is her strongest point. She will create more jobs. Hey BO thought her views were so good he copied them.

3. Her health plan covers EVERYONE! No one will left out in the cold. She was a champion of Univeral Health care before it became a popular thought.

4. She is an extremely smart woman.

5. She is a fighter!

7. She can beat McCain.

8. She has 6 more years in the Senate and therefore has more experience. Our country needs a more experienced commander in Cheif right now.

Now name reasons why you want BO to be president?

tell the truth wrote:

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Does not mean that they do not care about the issues. But if the candidates are equal on most issues, then the glass ceiling becomes the tiebreaker. That is a legitimate issue, and it is not racism.

Ahhhh but I guess the glass ceiling of racism is seemed more important than the glass ceiling of sexism.

EricDallas wrote:

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If you are against the white race, standing with the cotton pickers, then you ARE one of them.
Good luck with that. When there is an economic disaster, and your black friends take to the streets and kick in your door, I hope you remember this. It will happen, remember the Rodney King arrest? That was nothing. Wait till these savages have no money. Ha Ha HA

If anyone votes for McCain, he isn't really voting for McCain. He's voting for the hoardes of creatures like this to whom McCain has sold his soul.

ladydi wrote:

<quoted text>Not venting and also not blowing smoke! Obama is the least experienced of the candidates...he can't state a simple declarative sentence without rambling...Mrs. Clinton was the best---articulate, passionate and compassionate about American issues, brilliant...and many more attributes I admire. Watching her on the April 16 debate before the Pennsylvania win was so inspiring! The debate also demonstrated Mr. Obama's lack of spontaneity and indecisiveness. Mr. McCain does not agree with President Bush on a great number of issues.

Thank you to another voice of reason!

Forget the last centense.
Should be superdelegates anyway.

Her delusion of winning seems fairly clearly riven but delusion can be kinder than reality, eh? Dagone!

ollie wrote:

those people in washingtos is as stupid as the rest of the world is all obma gets it black votes and stupied white bitches.

Just because Bush was president, don't go thinking that makes you qualified, too. Sure, Bush proves you have the adequate set of skills, but you don't have the family connections.

Robin The First wrote:

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The only problem is that I didn't ask WHY they don't support Obama, I asked for political reasons WHY they support the candidate they do other than their not being Obama. It's like asking Hill and McCain supporters to turn water into wine... they can't do it.

Mr. Obama is the least experienced of the candidates in just about every avenue. If a White, Asian, Hispanic or any other ethnic group man with the same qualifications were trying to run, they would have been eliminated from the race a LONG TIME AGO! Even in the workplace, in this bad economy, the most experienced plus schooling gets the job!

RGW wrote:

I just hope Clinton's supporters back Obama. We really dont need 4 more years like the last 8!!! But her supporters seem bitter. Get over it and move on. So I hope they do. And vote Demo. this Nov.

Get over it? We are not bitter because our candidate is not winning what we are bitter about is the unfair treatment and bias that is happening in the process. The press is so Pro BO it is sinful. I use to respect our press but now I see how corupt the MSM really is. It is an outrage.

What we are bitter about is the hateful comments that have come from BO supporters. I have never seen such hate.

The Democratic party has pushed us away. That is fine just don't expect us to support them come November. Don't tell us to get over it. By saying that you show you have clue as to what has transpired during this campaign.

We'll "get over it" alright we already are over it and also know who we will vote for come November.