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With math, by-laws and the democratic process favoring her opponent, Hillary Rodham Clinton 's campaign options appear to be either attempting an intra-party coup d'etat or playing what in Alabama used to be ...

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Payne revels in being a victim.
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The math is not the only holly end. Numbers say nothing at all. It is how they are collected and interpreted that matters.

Obama may have the number advantage. But the underlying core is that he is empty lame duck candidate who has media advantage and money advantage. Democratic party is more afraid of being called a racist than sexist.
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Why is it that Les can mention "Cracker" and I can't mention N*****
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An excellent and honest column, as usual, as I've come to expect from Les Payne. It's sad bordering on pathetic that Hillary and Bill Clinton are so desperate to win the White House that they couldn't resist playing "race," even to the detriment of the Democratic party to which I presume they belong. It's also sad that Hillary is trying to reinvent herself as having risen from the "trailer-park," and this in spite of the fact that she and her husband have reported income of $110,000,000 since the year 2000. No wonder she was reluctant to release those returns- Do America a favor Hillary! Give it up; the lights and your political career are dimming, the party's over!
Robert W. Mays
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The so called "rightful winners" are usually the wrongful winners. Remember how Bush got elected in the first place? All of those hanging chads?

Goddess help us all. Come November It will be even a bigger Chaos. It is a pity. but I think CNN and their friends(Oprah) pick, promote and vote the candidates in. The rest are just a side show formality. I have stopped watching Oprah since she backed Obama.

Money buys elections. Have the right race at the right time too.

Unfortunately in America ballless men seem to generate more media support than women with balls.

I think win or lose the true winner is already Mrs Clinton, who puts on her walking shoes and the pants suite and goes to work everyday. She is a hard working mother(the best manager a country could ask for)
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It's obvious at this stage .... Obama will win . I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the summer .
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Paul R Nelson wrote:
Les, do us all a favor and move back down South, and try to have garbage like this printed down there. They'd show you some real hospitality.... by stringing you from a tree.
Yeah I bet you would be the one holding the rope!
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The old girl (Hillary) has nothing left except her ability to get in the news and be seen and perceived by "...non-college educated White people" as some sort of savior of the status quo. She knows that this is her last stand and in very short order the curtain will fall on this surreal family.

“We're pretty fucked now!”

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I hate people that act like slavery is still around. I guess living in the past is the only thing some people have left.
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khosrow wrote:
The so called "rightful winners" are usually the wrongful winners. Remember how Bush got elected in the first place? All of those hanging chads?
Goddess help us all. Come November It will be even a bigger Chaos. It is a pity. but I think CNN and their friends(Oprah) pick, promote and vote the candidates in. The rest are just a side show formality. I have stopped watching Oprah since she backed Obama.
Money buys elections. Have the right race at the right time too.
Unfortunately in America ballless men seem to generate more media support than women with balls.
I think win or lose the true winner is already Mrs Clinton, who puts on her walking shoes and the pants suite and goes to work everyday. She is a hard working mother(the best manager a country could ask for)
Hillary has balls? Well, that makes it easier
to understand Bill and Monica and why so many
Americans see Bill and Hillary as a marriage of
pure convenience.

If you think Hillary hasn't had extraordinary
media attention you haven't a clue what we endure
on a daily basis here in the U.S.. Toss in
Maureen Dowd and it becomes laughable.

Just wondering .... do you think Hillary can
summon up one more tear for us before the
primaries next week put her down, out, and
short $6,000,000 that Obama will cover if she
panders for him until November?
DROP OUT DEAN

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WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE BILL DO, NOTHING? JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, USING WHAT HE HAS TO GET WHAT HE NEEDS! WASNT CRITICAL OF ANYOTHER PRES. NOW WAS YOU OBAMA HIPP! HIPP, HIPP, HIPP!TELL ME ONE PRES. THAT WASNT ALREADY RICH, WHAT HE DID AFTERWARDS! DOWNING A MAN FOR SPEAKING? GLORY BE, WHATS THIS WORLD COMING TO, NO RICH PRESIDENTS? EVEN OBAMA IS RICH. USED HIS INFLUENCE TO GET HIS NON=PROUD WIFE A NICE RAISE NOW DIDNT HE! DOESNT EVERYBODY GET SOMETHING IN RETURN FOR BEING IN THE OFFICE? YOU WOULD, I WOULD, ADMIT IT! GOT TO MAKE A LIVING DONT YOU, MONEY GROW ON TREES FOR YOU?
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Bill R wrote:
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Hillary has balls? Well, that makes it easier
to understand Bill and Monica and why so many
Americans see Bill and Hillary as a marriage of
pure convenience.
If you think Hillary hasn't had extraordinary
media attention you haven't a clue what we endure
on a daily basis here in the U.S.. Toss in
Maureen Dowd and it becomes laughable.
Just wondering .... do you think Hillary can
summon up one more tear for us before the
primaries next week put her down, out, and
short $6,000,000 that Obama will cover if she
panders for him until November?
Lets face it, to certain degree all marriages are based connivance. Actually they are usually the most honest and lasting ones. I don’t care what bill did to Monica or what Monica did to bill. What matters is that Bill and Hillary Clinton have served their country in an exemplary and very dignified manner.

Regardless of monica things, Clinton’s are still very dignified, and they look exquisite together. When people share so much in common it usually stems from a deep understanding and solid passion for each other.
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Top 10 Reasons Obama Defeated Clinton for the Democratic Nomination:

#10.Great Team
Obama assembled a great team that could work together

Read more on the top 10 reasons:

http://empowertube.blogspot.com/2008/05/top-1...
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Hedcutter wrote:
The old girl (Hillary) has nothing left except her ability to get in the news and be seen and perceived by "...non-college educated White people" as some sort of savior of the status quo. She knows that this is her last stand and in very short order the curtain will fall on this surreal family.
You are just typical arrogant. Where did you get your college education from? What gives you the right to dismiss the voice of hard working Americans who have contributed indirectly to your college degree if you have any? If you do, it is worthless. because the first basic principle of any education is to be mindful of the people who work hard to make ends meet. You don’t show respect to working class white Americans, who helped to build America. There are plenty of those left in America today.

Yah you guys keep playing the obamaelitist card. But it is going to backfire.
OSBAMA the real communist

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I hate people that act like slavery is still around. I guess living in the past is the only thing some people have left.
Slavery is alive thanks to those who export jobs to the places where slavery is more tolerated. Slavery is also alive since Obama thanks to mediaSlave Osbama.
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Ken wrote:
Top 10 Reasons Obama Defeated Clinton for the Democratic Nomination:
#10.Great Team
Obama assembled a great team that could work together
Read more on the top 10 reasons:
http://empowertube.blogspot.com/2008/05/top-1...
so he is nothing without the people who sell him to the public. Obama is just a Media Hot Air.
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I want Obama to win simply so all minorities can shut the eff up; now they will not be able to claim that ANYONE is still holding them down.

So when their lives/neighborhoods/socio-econ omic status remain the same, they will know the truth about whose fault it REALLY is.

Obama in '08!

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khosrow wrote:
<quoted text>You are just typical arrogant. Where did you get your college education from? What gives you the right to dismiss the voice of hard working Americans who have contributed indirectly to your college degree if you have any? If you do, it is worthless. because the first basic principle of any education is to be mindful of the people who work hard to make ends meet. You don’t show respect to working class white Americans, who helped to build America. There are plenty of those left in America today.
Yah you guys keep playing the obamaelitist card. But it is going to backfire.
I'm not sure where you got your information about the Clinton's. You have been mislead. Before you call anyone else any names over her/them.... please view the clips... taken from a Documentary, with files and transcripts to back it up. Just watch each with an open mind... you will be shocked !! People DIE around the Clinton's. They sold us out to China. Just have a good look. 4-12 are he most telling... This documentary was on TV... and got pulled OFF (wonder why !!)
These are EVIL People that you are defending.

Clinton Files: "Bill & Hillary Clinton: Their Secret Life" --
#1 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
#3 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Whitewater]
#4 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [drug trafficing, kick backs, murder, Tyson,weapon running]
#5 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [continued #4 scary as hell, Foster]
#6 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Foster in depth]
#7 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Foster cover up, Roger Clinton, Bill, underaged females, drugs, Parks & Ferguson murder]
#8 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Ferguson cover-up,Mahoney,McDoogle,Lawh one,Ron Brown+33,Niko Jersick,Shelly Kelly murders]
#9 http://www.youtube.com/watch... ["Filegate", Communist China dealings,contributions,Waco,KG B,John Huang,Riady Family ties]
#10 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Riady Family con't,China Mob "Triads"staying in White House, Chaoying
#11 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [PLA 'treason',COSCO,Military Secrets to PLA,Johnny Chung ties&favors,Gore,death list beginning.]
#12 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Death list con't,
more- http://www.1984arkansasmothero ftheyea...
NWO/Hill shorter version-
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
khosrow

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Tickle My Elmo wrote:
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I'm not sure where you got your information about the Clinton's. You have been mislead. Before you call anyone else any names over her/them.... please view the clips... taken from a Documentary, with files and transcripts to back it up. Just watch each with an open mind... you will be shocked !! People DIE around the Clinton's. They sold us out to China. Just have a good look. 4-12 are he most telling... This documentary was on TV... and got pulled OFF (wonder why !!)
These are EVIL People that you are defending.
Clinton Files: "Bill & Hillary Clinton: Their Secret Life" --
#1 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
#2 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
#3 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Whitewater]
#4 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [drug trafficing, kick backs, murder, Tyson,weapon running]
#5 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [continued #4 scary as hell, Foster]
#6 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Foster in depth]
#7 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Foster cover up, Roger Clinton, Bill, underaged females, drugs, Parks & Ferguson murder]
#8 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Ferguson cover-up,Mahoney,McDoogle,Lawh one,Ron Brown+33,Niko Jersick,Shelly Kelly murders]
#9 http://www.youtube.com/watch... ["Filegate", Communist China dealings,contributions,Waco,KG B,John Huang,Riady Family ties]
#10 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Riady Family con't,China Mob "Triads"staying in White House, Chaoying
#11 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [PLA 'treason',COSCO,Military Secrets to PLA,Johnny Chung ties&favors,Gore,death list beginning.]
#12 http://www.youtube.com/watch... [Death list con't,
more- http://www.1984arkansasmothero ftheyea...
NWO/Hill shorter version-
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
At one time I had nothing against Obama. But since then he has become really arrogant and inconsiderate. Thanks for the "information" but they don’t say much to me. If anything they prove the contrary. I mean now days any kid can cut and paste audiovisual information and then post them on the Internet. The media have become unreliable too, they only want to jump on the next bandwagon that provides them with advertising money, free invitation to white house parties and free ride on the presidential plane to exotic locations.
Media is the least reliable sources.
I think If Bill and Hillary Clinton had done anything illegal they would have long been convicted. They have been scrutinized for years. People should fight for what they believe in.
Win or Lose I consider Hillary Clinton to be a true winner. It is all relative and depends on how you choose to look at it. I believe her much more than any other politician in America today.
Obama is no match for McCain. No wonder many republicans are now voting in democratic primaries in order to stop Hillary from becoming the democratic candidate. Hillary Clinton is the stronger candidate. I think Obama is a blessing in disguise for the republicans. Even I would vote for McCain and not for Obama. Osbama came out of nowhere and hijacked the election based on his colour and Oprah’s money. In the past I watched Oprah incidentally, but I’ll never watch Oprah again.
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khosrow wrote:
The math is not the only holly end. Numbers say nothing at all. It is how they are collected and interpreted that matters.
Obama may have the number advantage. But the underlying core is that he is empty lame duck candidate who has media advantage and money advantage. Democratic party is more afraid of being called a racist than sexist.
I'm sick and tired of being called a sexist, just because I don't support a female candidate who uses dirty tricks for her own means.

Hillary Rottenham Clinton = Downright EVIL!!!
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