Senate challenges Bush, votes 97-1 to temporarily halt shipments of oil to emergency reserve

Stop McBush wrote:

How can anyone who's been watching how the Republican party treats average Americans and can even CONSIDER voting for John "McBush" McCain.
They don't care about anyone who doesn't earn $200,000 a year and doesn't give thousands to their campaigns.
Anyone but a REPUGnican!!!

Yeah, just what we need; a crazier, angrier, and even more senile version of Bush.

How utterly lame a gesture that was. We use 21 MILLION barrels of oil a DAY, so they good Senator's come up with a brilliant plan (political grandstanding) to stop 70,000 barrels a day from going into the strategic reserve...

Drill Alaska, or Invade Venezuela...Or BOTH.

Stop McBush wrote:

How can anyone who's been watching how the Republican party treats average Americans and can even CONSIDER voting for John "McBush" McCain.
They don't care about anyone who doesn't earn $200,000 a year and doesn't give thousands to their campaigns.
Anyone but a REPUGnican!!!

Yea I would rather see my tax rate go to the highest in history in order to support people who will not get of their lazy a##es and get a job. Welfare for all! Who will be left to pay the taxes?

Stop McBush wrote:

How can anyone who's been watching how the Republican party treats average Americans and can even CONSIDER voting for John "McBush" McCain.
They don't care about anyone who doesn't earn $200,000 a year and doesn't give thousands to their campaigns.
Anyone but a REPUGnican!!!

Obviously you don't read very well.

The Republicans voted WITH the Democrats on this measure.

That might take a gallon of gas from 3.999 to 3.998, but I seriously doubt it. More like 3.999999 to 3.999998

So the Democrats say it's important to put 70,000 barrels a day into production which is spitting in the wind, but God forbid we drill on our own land for oil which will be a SIGNIFICANT cost reducing measure, even so far as to drive the price of oil DOWN, no, that they are a gainst.

70,000 is .07% of a million....or, what's it matter...it's not even close to a percentage of 21 million barrels. What, like .0000024% or something like that? I can't get my head around the formula right now I'm so flabbergasted.

Maybe if everyone congress uninates in Lake Superior the water level will rise again to normal levels....

Having followed McCain for some years, I have absolutely no belief that he's meant anything he's said in the last 3 years.

He was supposed to be president in 2000, but Rove knew that the Southern Republicans were extremely racist and used that to his advantage.

McCain, at this point, is just pandering to the dumbest common denominator within the party - exactly the same way that Bush did in 2004.

Remember that election was all about "Let's make an amendment to outlaw homosexuality".

Nov. 1st - "Gay marriage is the greatest threat our country faces."

Nov 5th - election

Nov. 10th - "Homo-wha? I don't know what you are talking about. I love the gays."

The party as a whole falls for it EVERY SINGLE TIME, so you can't exactly blame McCain for misleading them.

Rest assured, if he gets elected, 99% of this crap will get tossed out day one.

There's reason he's been on the Daily Show 11x. He's not a Neo Con no matter what he says or does now.

And, given that there's no way he's running for re-election, he doesn't have to pander once in place.

Having said all that, I think Obama sends a better message to the world at large.

Either way, we're better off than we have been in nearly a decade.

Darren M wrote:

How utterly lame a gesture that was. We use 21 MILLION barrels of oil a DAY, so they good Senator's come up with a brilliant plan (political grandstanding) to stop 70,000 barrels a day from going into the strategic reserve...
Drill Alaska, or Invade Venezuela...Or BOTH.

Even if they were to "drill Alaska" the oil would not be enough to last any time at all and we would not see any of it for 10 years. Big help that would be.

Darren M wrote:

How utterly lame a gesture that was. We use 21 MILLION barrels of oil a DAY, so they good Senator's come up with a brilliant plan (political grandstanding) to stop 70,000 barrels a day from going into the strategic reserve...
Drill Alaska, or Invade Venezuela...Or BOTH.

Drill Alaska...
So that 20 years from now, gas prices will go down 5 cents. Excellent solution.

Raising cafe standards by 5 mpg would have a greater effect sooner, cost less and not destroy pristine wilderness.

And "invade venezula"? Jesus Christ! Let's start ANOTHER endless war for oil. If we took the money we spent in Iraq and just used it to buy the oil instead, we would own ALL the oil that's been produced in the last year and a half, gas would be 10 cents a gallon and no one would be dead.

And, need I remind you that Venezula gave the US FREE oil to heat the homes of the poor. FREE.

You want to go to war with a country which was giving us FREE oil.

Brilliant.

hiphop wrote:

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Yea I would rather see my tax rate go to the highest in history in order to support people who will not get of their lazy a##es and get a job. Welfare for all! Who will be left to pay the taxes?

LOL. Learn math.

Go look up these figures -
What's the total tax income for the US?
What's the total amount spent on welfare (not social security, just welfare/food stamps)?
What percentage of the total tax income of the US is spent on welfare?

Lets say we TRIPLED that amount (which no one is suggesting), how much of an increase to the total budget would that be?

Now give us the numbers for Iraq. Give us the amount we give Exxon as a tax rebate. Give us the amount spent on pork projects in, let's pick a state, Alaska.

Here's the #1 problem with Conservatives. You guys think that if ONE person is doing something wrong, then EVERYONE should be punished.

Yes, I am ABSOLUTELY certain that there are many people who are on welfare who could get jobs and don't.

Are they the majority? No.
Most of the welfare money is going to areas which are so economically depressed that there simply are no jobs.
Places where there is no job training, no real estate market whatsoever, no avenue for escape.

You want to take the food out of the mouths of innocent children who had the unfortunate bad luck to be born in rural Georgia just because some jackass in Chicago is getting a free ride.

Welfare is a DROP. If we cut the program ENTIRELY it wouldn't make a lick of difference to the over all budget, but it would DESTROY the lives of many Americans.

Excellent planning on your part.

Lou wrote:

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Even if they were to "drill Alaska" the oil would not be enough to last any time at all and we would not see any of it for 10 years. Big help that would be.

Right, and by clinton stopping drilling in ANWR 12 years ago, we aren't getting NOW what is needed. Are you sure 10 years from now we won't be just as screwed?

Nuggin wrote:

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Drill Alaska...
So that 20 years from now, gas prices will go down 5 cents. Excellent solution.
Raising cafe standards by 5 mpg would have a greater effect sooner, cost less and not destroy pristine wilderness.
And "invade venezula"? Jesus Christ! Let's start ANOTHER endless war for oil. If we took the money we spent in Iraq and just used it to buy the oil instead, we would own ALL the oil that's been produced in the last year and a half, gas would be 10 cents a gallon and no one would be dead.
And, need I remind you that Venezula gave the US FREE oil to heat the homes of the poor. FREE.
You want to go to war with a country which was giving us FREE oil.
Brilliant.

Methinks he was being sarcastic.

If this was a friggin oil war, then why don't we have the oil? Idiot. The OPEC nations have stated they will not increase the supplies simply to drive the prices down, they are making too much money, simple as that. The next step will probably be subsidization of the fuel costs for our nation, which will hide the true costs through our taxes.

The answer is for the US to no longer be dependent on foreign oils. We are not in Iraq fighting for oil. It is a war on terrorism. I didn't spend 2 years of my life over there for oil, I can tell you that much for sure.

The Democrats have had control of Congress since 2006 and have done nothing, absolutely nothing to improve anything. If they do get control of the Presidency, then we'll have high gas prices, high food prices, and high taxes. Hold on to your pocketbooks. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:

So the Democrats say it's important to put 70,000 barrels a day into production which is spitting in the wind, but God forbid we drill on our own land for oil which will be a SIGNIFICANT cost reducing measure, even so far as to drive the price of oil DOWN, no, that they are a gainst.

Wouldn't make a difference at all. Wouldn't be available for YEARS.

It would be faster to solve the "sandy oil" problem and GIVE the technology to Canada.

It would be faster to upgrade mass transit.

It would be faster to raise cafe standards.

It would be faster to provide fuel injectors to all 2 stroke engines.

It would be faster to invest in Changing World Technologies "anything to oil" plants.

ALL of these things have the advantage of being faster, cheaper, safer and more effective than drilling in Alaska.

Lost Rights James Bovard wrote:

So the Democrats say it's important to put 70,000 barrels a day into production which is spitting in the wind, but God forbid we drill on our own land for oil which will be a SIGNIFICANT cost reducing measure, even so far as to drive the price of oil DOWN, no, that they are a gainst.

The vote was 97-1, and you blame the Dems for this vote??

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How many think they are having a heart attack when it is gas rumbling in the belly?