U.S. warns Russia of consequences

U.S. warns? HAHAHAHAHA

The Americans can hardly fight the talibans who t now control the 80% of Alganistan!!
(doesn't Fox News transmit it?)

Well, you can become offensive to your friends just as Bush and Rice become offensive to our nation's friends, but it won't get tit for tat.

Maintaining critical perception of the news is wise, else we get locked into senile thinking.

Supporting Bush policy in Iraq doesn't insist that I support Bush pushing an agenda set by Clinton.

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FKLBRLS wrote:

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Ah yes, only US media manipulates the news. I'm glad you buy into that propaganda as it discredits you. Russia has of course been a saint and everything they have ever done has been justified as is the case with China and naturally we all should accept that Bush is the great evil that will be around for decades endangering peaceful groups like Al Qaeda and those humanitarian dictators around the world.

All Russian ocupants must go out from georgia and free Chechnia and Tatarstan too, nobody likes Russians, not even poland and Ukraine or litva, better look back soon China will take all Siberia without ane shot...live other countries and look after your poeple who die drinking vodka and prostitute..

as to greece , one question when Turkey was anexing yo and your teritories it was good?
now you hate USA? USA is always thins about democracy, even if has prolems inside the Iraq..
But you don't care about enything just look how to rest and drink and eat well...

Russia hasw big teritory and don't use them..
only take oil, when china needs teritory, because of big population, we have to give some teritories to china, they are working people and need more than Russia..

Miyamoto Musashi wrote:

Well, you can become offensive to your friends just as Bush and Rice become offensive to our nation's friends, but it won't get tit for tat.
Maintaining critical perception of the news is wise, else we get locked into senile thinking.
Supporting Bush policy in Iraq doesn't insist that I support Bush pushing an agenda set by Clinton.
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How does your country keep changing? Were are you actually?

best inshow wrote:

<quoted text>Sight correction for U mr. Jimmy. Zbiginew Breszinski was Jimmy Carter's foreign policy advisor. Probably the best we've had in the U.S. except for Mr. Clinton's well informed anti-terrorist specialist Mr. Richard Clarke.

You are right.He was Carter's national security advisor, but he remained in Reagan's administration (in George H. Bush's as well), in a less visible capacity but still active on the russian question. I refered to R5eagan because he was more confrontational with the russkys and that Brzezinski could put his credi in action. He was the best, you are right.

from Athens Greece wrote:

U.S. warns? HAHAHAHAHA
The Americans can hardly fight the talibans who t now control the 80% of Alganistan!!
(doesn't Fox News transmit it?)

The panzies in Greece are such mighty warriors. We recall how you fared against the Italians and Germans when they were able to just march right on in. Tough talk for an impotent liberal warrior like yourself.

best inshow wrote:

<quoted text>You maybe better go back to logistical facts about warfare my friend. How many U.S. military are available to yes indeed, let's invade Russia too. We're certain NOT to meet any resistance of any kind - We should need OH ABOUT 150,000 U.S. personnel & we'll roll victorius right into the streets of Moscow. sound familiar? Maybe you had best study even the most recent failures of U.S. foreign policy before making BOLD blustery statements. You haven't been paying attention for the past 7 years evidently. By the way, Russia is multiple times bigger in area than Iraq. How are you going to CONTROL that population, just like we did in Iraq?? Get a grip on reality.

3'000'000 german troops could not do it. 3 million ! BArbarossa ...then came winter and you had troops from SIberia coming to beat the shit out of tired german troops. While the germans were retreating, one of the best -and toughest german generals, General Von Guderian (the blietzkrieg guy) was writing to Hitler, begging him to remove him from the fight with the russkys.Begging.Russians are crazy.Let's not get carried away.

FKLBRLS wrote:

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The panzies in Greece are such mighty warriors. We recall how you fared against the Italians and Germans when they were able to just march right on in. Tough talk for an impotent liberal warrior like yourself.

By the way, let's have a minute for those brave guys who landed on the beaches of Normandy !
God Bless Them !!!!!!!!!!It seems appropriate !

FKLBRLS wrote:

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Now Russia? Maybe you are the one who needs to go back and get an education. That fake democracy is a farce, especially to the citizens suffering under it. I'd rather we didn't waste our time with Russia. Like all the other troublemakers, they simply seek attention and can only do that through killing. I guess you'd just have us all accept the deaths like 9/11 and all the homocide bombings against unarmed innocents.

"That fake democracy is a farce, especially to the citizens suffering under it."

Suffreing under dictator Putin as opposed to democratic Yeltsin? ;)

In reality the majority of Russians do suport Medvedev&Putin (support does not necesserily mean they love or idolize them), think why - not because russians are inherently undemocratic but because this country needs stability - without good economy you cannot have a proper democracy. Either way, Russia is alot more democratic than it used to be or compared to a lot of other countries including China, Pakistan or even India.

Jimmy Gatts wrote:

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By the way, let's have a minute for those brave guys who landed on the beaches of Normandy !
God Bless Them !!!!!!!!!!It seems appropriate !

Agreed. I do recall seeing a nice tribute in France to the soldiers that helped liberate them at the entryway to the beach in Nice.

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"That fake democracy is a farce, especially to the citizens suffering under it."
Suffreing under dictator Putin as opposed to democratic Yeltsin? ;)
In reality the majority of Russians do suport Medvedev&Putin (support does not necesserily mean they love or idolize them), think why - not because russians are inherently undemocratic but because this country needs stability - without good economy you cannot have a proper democracy. Either way, Russia is alot more democratic than it used to be or compared to a lot of other countries including China, Pakistan or even India.

Okay, fair enough. I can accept that answer. I've been to Novosibirsk a few times and it seemed like the people there were friendly.

FKLBRLS wrote:

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Okay, fair enough. I can accept that answer. I've been to Novosibirsk a few times and it seemed like the people there were friendly.

Nice, Novosibirsk ?!?! Come on man, what are you ?
A jetsetter? All those guys in this forum think that you are a redneck (well, it's true). You are not supposed to travel that extensively : just drink Buds (not the Light shit) and watch Nascar.

Bill wrote:

as to greece , one question when Turkey was anexing yo and your teritories it was good?
now you hate USA? USA is always thins about democracy, even if has prolems inside the Iraq..
But you don't care about enything just look how to rest and drink and eat well...

So? Did USA hepled us to liberate ourselves?
I think that those who care about to drink and eat whatever the nations of this planet can give you are THE AMERICANS!
And one question: Why don't you use the oil of Alaska or Texas and you want to steal the oil of Iraq, Caucasus (and perhaps in the future of Iran,
although i belive that you don't have the guts to attack Iran!!)

Not only did not helped Greece to liberate herself from the Turks, but you also sent the Turks to invade and occupy the 37% of the Republic of Cyprus in 1974!!
SHAME ON YOU AMERICANS!!

Offbeat wrote:

<quoted text>Hey dumbass! Try reading the post I responded to and you just might have a clue on why I said what I said,otherwise shut the hell up!

So then you do agree that my "Russian attack scenario" probably isn't the best of ideas? How much military training have you REALLY had. Certainly NONE in managing outlays & expenditures ($1/2 billion each & every day that we occupy Iraq. Sound like a REALLY good idea for another 100 years? Answers please, not BLUSTER.......

Jimmy Gatts wrote:

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3'000'000 german troops could not do it. 3 million ! BArbarossa ...then came winter and you had troops from SIberia coming to beat the shit out of tired german troops. While the germans were retreating, one of the best -and toughest german generals, General Von Guderian (the blietzkrieg guy) was writing to Hitler, begging him to remove him from the fight with the russkys.Begging.Russians are crazy.Let's not get carried away.

You may have missed my point in that the scenario I proposed for an "attack" of Russia is the same logistical decsions that were made to go into Iraq & we all know how that has turned out. No neither set of decisions would be the right one. Some people want to ignore history, especially in war years because of course the victors write the "proper history" of events. Our Surge proponents believe that a bull headed approach for continuing occupation is the "Right i.e. conservative?" approach. Federal budgetary issues to the tune of $1 trillion spent (each & every continuing resolution to finance Mid East stay of troops added to Fed. deficit) on Iraq already would say "NOT conservative". How much longer are taxpayer's expected to support leadershhip ineptitude?

OlSchooler wrote:

And what did Lenin say? "Soviet power, no matter what happens -- to the supporters of communism in various countries -- Soviet power is inescapable and in the near future will triumph across the world."
And where would those 15 member-states that made up the USSR ( including Russia ) have been today had the United States of America not won the Cold War. Oh for leaders like Gorbachaev and Reagon again.

Hi OldSchool, it's your pal again (you can't be that bad : you like to fish and hunt-I won't mess with you again: you hunt with a bow...).
Read Gorbatchev in the NYtimes today : he is blast'in the US.Big time.

FKLBRLS wrote:

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The panzies in Greece are such mighty warriors. We recall how you fared against the Italians and Germans when they were able to just march right on in. Tough talk for an impotent liberal warrior like yourself.

Unfortunate point to respond to in that lost focus on Afghanistan led to resurgence of Taliban in it's current form. Was a $1 trillion NeoCon idea test really that worthwhile in Iraq? A fraction of that may have taken care of the Osama problem. Now we have just spawned another generation of Al Qaeda apocolytes. Oh well , some times those decisions just aren't the "Slam dunk" that we thought, eh?