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Apr 23, 2008

Clinton: Why can't Obama win big states?

Democrats soldier on in fight for nomination

Sen. Hillary Clinton rode the momentum of her Pennsylvania win into Indiana on Wednesday, with her campaign saying it is on pace to raise $10 million in 24 hours.

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I think the U.S. has given all the candidates more than they deserve. With all their money, the Clinton's are living free. They charge the government rent for their bodyguards housing that covers the cost of their home. Now that is a deal we all should have.

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the only large state obama has won is illinois ... 600,000 of his 700,000 vote lead come from illinois (400,000 from cook county!)

if there is one more debate and obama is toast...
of course, there won't be...he'll win the nomination and 50% of the clinton supporters in ... california, new york, florida, ohio and pennsylania will vote for mccain...

bye bye barack...
(i'll bet you lose your senate seat next!)
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Apr 23, 2008
 
Good question, and probably Hillary's best claim to the nomination. Dems won't win Utah or Montana (Obama won those), but there is no way they can win without PA, CA, MA, NJ, NY, etc.(Hillary won all of those!) That's the "base" folks, and without it there is very little indeed. That old and cranky John McCain must be doing a fox-trot (I don't think he learned the twist yet).
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I was born and raised a Democrat, in the tradition of Wilson, FDR and JFK, all of whom I still admire. They were truly great leaders. The Democrats of today are nothing like them.
What many Democrats don't seem to get is that elections are to a great extent popularity contests. It is a personality thing. The people just don't like them.
Yes, issues are important. But winning debates and having good speeches only goes so far. If the people feel creepy and nervous around a candidate, if something just doesn't feel right about them, then they vote for someone else. John Kerry is proof of that.
That is what is happening with Obama. There is just something about him, a vibe of some kind, that turns people against him. The mythical aura of the man has worn off, and most Americans have finally come back down to earth.
This might explain why Democrats usually win polls with issues, but still lose the election. Too many Democrats are arrogant, obnoxious, aloof, snobbish, rude, meddlesome, and condescending. They talk to the people like we are stupid children and show more respect for fish than they do their own people. They are more concerned about the rest of the world than they are us.
I do not need their help with my life. I am tired of being saved from myself, and given advice from foolish idiots.
I simply don't care if they are right or not. Call me stupid all you want, but I do not want to be governed by power-crazy jerks. I am tired of hearing about how "intellectual" they are. Enough already with the "we are so smart" stuff.
Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, all of them have this smug "we know everything" attitude. So does Obama. I am not impressed.
One more thing. They refuse to give any credit at all to the other side. When are they finally going to admit that, like it or not, Ronald Reagan was a great President? So was Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, and Eisenhower. All of them Republicans.
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Apr 23, 2008
 
I wonder just how much Hillary owes Rush Limbaugh for her win in Pennsylvania due to Operation Chaos. This is typical Limbaugh - If you can't win any other way scuttle your oppositions primaries by crossing over and voting for the opponet you think will be most easy to defeat. Then return to the Republican fold during the real election. Doing what Rush does best - Poisoning the Political Well!

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Apr 23, 2008
 
Some wit & wisdom from the guys at RedState:

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I would vote for Jackie for Prez.
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Obama can't win big States because all the smart people know he is a liar. Obama's proven lies are at 68 now and counting. Here are some of them:

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’(from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone,$22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
65) Obama said in a recent Democratic presidential debate he "never favored an all-out ban on handguns." -LIAR, Obama indicated in a 1996 state Senate questionnaire that he supported banning "the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns."
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Obama can't win big States because all the smart people know he is a liar. Obama's proven lies are at 68 now and counting. Here are some of them:

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’(from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone,$22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
65) Obama said in a recent Democratic presidential debate he "never favored an all-out ban on handguns." -LIAR, Obama indicated in a 1996 state Senate questionnaire that he supported banning "the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns."
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Obama can't win big States because all the smart people know he is a liar. Obama's proven lies are at 68 now and counting. Here are some of them:
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’(from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.
56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone,$22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.
58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”
61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.
65) Obama said in a recent Democratic presidential debate he "never favored an all-out ban on handguns." -LIAR, Obama indicated in a 1996 state Senate questionnaire that he supported banning "the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns."

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Freedom Lover wrote:
blah blah blah"
whats up with this pasting books,Obama already has won the DNC nomination hes won twice as many states as Hillary you people that think otherwise are looney tunes. We dems need to stick together stop the arguing and vote for Obama when he wins.If Hillary would stop the attack campaign Obama just might pick her for VP.
watch this video this explains why she cannot win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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***HILLARY CLINTON LOST PENNSYLVANIA***

***OBAMA WON PA***

Why? Hillary Clinton ONLY won by 10%!

10%-THAT'S NOTHING! NOTHING!!! Obama was able to close her predicted lead by a huge margin and made this a CLOSE contest in PA!

REMARKABLE FOR OBAMA and says alot about how much Hillary is truly DESPISED!

This was supposed to be Hillary's "STRONG-HOLD" - 10% is NOT A STRONGHOLD!

Obama has beaten Hillary by 20-30% in SEVERAL STATES, and by 10% in COUNTLESS STATES!

GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
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Doesn't Hillary look rediculous in a man's suit ?

Her body has the shape of a jumbo pear.

Her ankles, oh my..... as thick as the ankles of a CLYDESDALE horse (the ones that pull the BUDWEISER BEER wagon).

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What does her looks have to do with her politics?
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Freedom Lover wrote:
I was born and raised a Democrat, in the tradition of Wilson, FDR and JFK, all of whom I still admire. They were truly great leaders. The Democrats of today are nothing like them.

What many Democrats don't seem to get is that elections are to a great extent popularity contests. It is a personality thing. The people just don't like them.

Yes, issues are important. But winning debates and having good speeches only goes so far. If the people feel creepy and nervous around a candidate, if something just doesn't feel right about them, then they vote for someone else. John Kerry is proof of that.

That is what is happening with Obama. There is just something about him, a vibe of some kind, that turns people against him. The mythical aura of the man has worn off, and most Americans have finally come back down to earth.

This might explain why Democrats usually win polls with issues, but still lose the election. Too many Democrats are arrogant, obnoxious, aloof, snobbish, rude, meddlesome, and condescending. They talk to the people like we are stupid children and show more respect for fish than they do their own people. They are more concerned about the rest of the world than they are us.

I do not need their help with my life. I am tired of being saved from myself...
The last two lines show exactly how so many voters like you *are* BITTER. Lots of False Pride there.

The fact is that if you are an ordinary wage-earning American, chances are you DO need the help of more powerful people called politicians. Probably thousands of citizens have lost their homes over the last several years due to inability to pay ruinous medical bills. Do you think that's cute? Or sexy?

If you want to be insured but CAN'T find affordable insurance, you got a serious problem. If you never smile 'cause your teeth are gross or falling out of your head 'cause you never go to the dentist 'cause you don't have dental insurance... you got a serious problem.

You NEED HELP from someone like Obama.

You just don't want to admit it because.... why? Because you're convinced he talks down to you??? So you'd rather skip his insurance plan, see McCain move into the White House, and lose your teeth AND your house and then file bankruptcy?

ALL for the privilege of not being talked down to???

Good Grief! How is that NOT acting like a child?

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He must have been dropped on his head when he was a child by a democrat.
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virgilK wrote:
I think the U.S. has given all the candidates more than they deserve. With all their money, the Clinton's are living free. They charge the government rent for their bodyguards housing that covers the cost of their home. Now that is a deal we all should have.
You should see the Bush family deal:

All tat gasoline money we spend goes through their finers. Some sticks. Not to mention the government benefits.

The grandson of Preston Bush is a multi-Billionaire.

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Far more important than the scale is the PATTERN. Mr. Obama is winning the states who will give their electoral vote to Mr. McCain.

Many of the votes he got are 'spoiler votes,' that is, the Republicans & un-enrolled who voted in Democratic Primaries; for who they perceive to be the weaker candidate in November.

Many of the 'independents' who Mr. Obama is bragging about have NO INTEWNTION of voting for him in the general election. Spme, in these states, they consider the Republican Party to be 'too liberal.'

For a true picture of who the 'super-delegates' should vote for:
MAKE a list of the states that voted domocratic in two of the past four presidential elections, eliminate those in which Republicans can vote in the Democratic Primary, and see who carried those states.

This would be the TRUE Democratic Candidate. I have not done this, but if someone who is a statistics expert would asttempt it; I would support whoever is the winner of this analysis.

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A delegate to the DNC has the responsibility of representing his district in a critical function. After the 1st ballot, you are no longer bound.

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Schmetterling wrote:
Doesn't Hillary look rediculous in a man's suit ?
Her body has the shape of a jumbo pear.
Her ankles, oh my..... as thick as the ankles of a CLYDESDALE horse (the ones that pull the BUDWEISER BEER wagon).
your tiny brainpan is filled with rancid tapioca.
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Obama can't win big States because all the smart people know he is a liar.
It is odd that you say that. I understand that it's the uneducated, lower income folks that go for Hillary.

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The democratics came up with this system so the elites in the party would have the final say in who the candidate will be. Why, because they believe the Joe and Jane average voter are not intelligent enough to vote for the right person.
Best case scenario for the convention; Hillary to have the most in the popular vote category. Hillary to have won most of the blue states. Barrack to have won more red states than Hillary and have more super delegates, but have fewer total votes. Neither will have the total number of delegates to win out right before the convention.
The solution; On the last night of the election, In walks the Noble Prize Winning and 2008 democratic candidate, Al Gore.

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