Mrs. Bush: History will vindicate her husband

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BamBam wrote:

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Posters,
This is an example of bait.

A PREVIOUS POST
I've been reading over these post. Here's a tip for all posters; don't waste time with Jim. He is toying with all of you and the result will be frustration. Don't expect true dialogue, you will never get it from Him. Stand back and look at his pattern, the simple man continues to repeat it. He will bait you and then humiliate you. Points to ponder.
1. Jim lies. You have irrefutable proof (see links at end of post).
2. Jim lies to present his distorted history, you have irrefutable proof.
3. Jim's foundation for his statements is always a self proclamation, "I don't lie". That too is a lie, you have irrefutable proof.
4. If you challenge Jim, he will not deal in good faith.
Instead, he will insult you, cast doubt on your sources, and cast doubt on those who support you. He will create diversions to distract away from the issues. He will attempt to frustrate by baiting you then using ridiculous statements. He attempts to discredit any who do not agree with him. He will attempt to create self doubt. But, you know who he is, Jim is a liar, you have irrefutable proof.
Instead of doubt, you can have confidence your sources are more valid than his. You can trust your own instincts and your own thinking before Jim's. He will attempt to dissuade you from your own sense of history by using deceit. In light of this, everything he has written is suspect and has a higher probability to contain deceit.
Links
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/2008-presiden...
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/newsday/T0F...
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/newsday/T0F...

MinnyJohn wrote:

<quoted text>Um, Mica, honey, just in case you forgot: America was hit by terrorists WHILE BUSH WAS IN OFFICE. He was the one who IGNORED all the warnings. He was the one who told the CIA agent in August of 2001: "Now you've covered your ass." And described responding to two major warnings (in July and Aug.) as "swatting at flies." He's the one who demoted Richard Clarke in his fifth day in office and weakened the anti-terrorist task force. He's the one who FAILED TO PROTECT US. Clinton, on the other hand, beefed up the anti-terrorist task force that Reagan created and Bush, Sr.did little to strenghthen. Clinton was the one who thwarted Al-Quada's Millenium Plot to attack America. Please don't piss me off with your Repugnantcan't talking points blulhsit.That's why you lost 30 seats in Congress in '06, because the sleeping giant known as the American People are finally waking up to the GOP Crime Family's lies.

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Bush's legacy is safe and far better than Bill Clinton's He will be known in history as the man who took on terrorism and won! Unfortunatley, he will also be known as the man who did NOTHING about illegal immigration. Kind of contrary isn't it?

Greco In Oz wrote:

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ye missed my point.. but then I've yet to see a conservative who really conserved anything.. not the nation's money, the nation's natural resources, or the nation's people. long on talk, short on reality.
ahd doi,haliburton is about oil and a thousand other ventures. It all boils down to PROFITS... oil derived or greedy contractors rebuilding a nation that we bombed so they could rebuild it.. blahblahblah...but then you won't look any deeper than the rush limbaugh soundbites.
my cousin was married to an exxon geologist who said there is enough oil in wyoming to power this country for 200 years. the war isn't just about oil WE HAVE OIL. I live ina county where there are oil jacks pumping in every other back yard....WE HAVE OIL...

Capn Crunch wrote:

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I think Truman was hated in his time too. He named the Marshall Plan after Marshall because he knew he wouldn't get the same kind of support for the Truman Plan.

buyerbeware wrote:

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Actually it was the European Recovery Plan and was named after Marshall because his Department of State worked out all the details. Truman wasn't especially disliked until the Douglas MacArthur episode.

Capn Crunch wrote:

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I know this was not directed at me, but how is his/her handle racist? If it's instead "Typical Black Person" or "Typical Yellow Person".. is that racist too?

SOBE wrote:

Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask,“Where is that marvelous ape?”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/15/mccain-fi...
Yes this is the man they would have as our next President.......

TypicalWhitePerson wrote:

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"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person."
It was his Grandmother NOT his mother.
Maybe you should learn to google so you can know what you are talking about.
Now don't you feel like a reject ? You should.

cat wrote:

http://www.newsday.com/news/na tionworld/world/wire/sns-ap-ge rmany-obama,0,3354343.story
Hard for me to believe that a rock concert produced this kind of crowd that stayed to listen to Sen. Obama after the music was over......sour grapes !

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Jim Says wrote:

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Bam Bam,
Your and your friends constant mendacious attacks on my character are the very technique that you claim that I am using on you. I have not lied on any post, the history of Bush was a well detailed, well researched history of the last seven years. Can we disagree with the results of the facts in the post, sure, but to disagree with the facts would be disingenuous of you. Facts are stubborn things, they remain facts no matter which side of the argument you're on. The only intellectually honest debate is what led up to or the overall long reaching results of those facts.
To date, the only assertion of mine that anyone of the three amigos who keep attacking me on was the off hand comment on a thread where I stated that Valerie Plame wasn't covert. This claim wasn't researched, it was simply off the cuff repeating what I have heard many times. With all the links that have been sent it appears that may or may not be incorrect. If she was covert, her actions of working at the CIA headquarters where she could easily be seen coming and going daily, would put a question on her covert status. However, as I have said on several posts, if she was or wasn't really isn't much of an issue. The discussion on that post was that Scooter Libby was not charged and wasn't convicted of outing a covert agent. So if she was or wasn't had no bearing on the case.
I challenge anyone to take my researched Bush study and find one single lie. You may not agree with it, but you won't find a lie. The only potential misspeak that I can think of in this entire thread was the Plame comment, and yet that is questionable. However, you, Scott, and Lomax have refused to debate issues but to assail my character simply because I disagree with your views. This is stereotypical behavior from the left who are bankrupt of ideas and of character.
When you want to talk about lying, about poor social behavior, all you have to do is look into the mirror if you can do so without averting your eyes.

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mikey V wrote:

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So Hussein Obama painted the white Race with a broad stroke of inherent Racism. I guess this takes a page from his wife's college thesis! The racial aspect of his core of belief gives the Silent Majority of Thinking Americans great pause. We will do the knee jerk reaction and throw out the baby with the bathwater to elect a class and race demogogue. His ties to known racists are real and matter, no matter that the fawning media and hypnotized followers say that they do not. We are appalled by his interjection of himself into the middle east conflict when he is not the commander, giving political leverage against U.S interests. Bush will be vindicated by the passage of time and the evolution of a stable democracy in the middle east, and any hope to the contrary is negative , counterproductive, and self-serving anti-americanism.

Scott J wrote:

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I think you need to take your own advice.
"Take the needle out of your arm"

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Scott J wrote:

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Bam Bam,
I see Jim Says is now backing off his assertion that Valerie Plame was covert or not. Now it's..'She may or may not have been covert'.
Not,'I'm sorry I got my facts wrong on that one.'
You're still a liar, and as I'e told all of my children at an early point in their lives:
Once you're exposed in only one lie, it's very, very difficult to re-establish trust and takes a very, very long time to and repair your reputation as an honest person who can be trusted.
I also he totally blows off the GHW campaign director lie (or mistake if you wish).
Look at the effort I had to go through to get this guy to come to this point on such a simple assertion. I've been of being accused of obsessing on him.
While I admit he is fun (like the clown punching bag reference), he truly isn't worth any more effort, except to post warnings about his previous mendacity to new posters.

buyerbeware wrote:

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Tsk. Tsk Catty-. Have you ever seen the size of the crowds that turn out for Rock Bands you know? They fill the Stadiums and arenas. Patrice,a reggae star is well known throughout Europe and Realmonn and the band have gold records and #1 hitss well in Germany as well as the rest of Europe and attract the same kind and size of audience rock bands do here.