Mrs. Bush: History will vindicate her husband

Anndee wrote:

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Oh yes and Clinton's oral office.
What... if it weren't for the rise of stds/hpv clinton's only claim to fame would be
why have so many associates of the Clintons gone to prison.
Why did Sandy Burger lose his license to practice law and go to prison for stealing top secret info from the national archives?
Whitewater:
AK Gov. Jim Guy Tucker - fraud felony convictions - 3 counts (Tucker resigned facing impeachment)
Jim McDougal - fraud and conspiracy felony convictions - 18 counts
Susan McDougal - felony - 4 counts (pardoned during Clinton's last minute pardongate payoffs)
William J. Marks Sr - conspiracy
Stephen Smith - conspiracy
Larry Kuca - Fraud
Neal Ainley - 2 misdemeanors for embezzlement
David Hale - guilty plea - conspiracy
Chris Wade - felony - Whitewater real-estate investor
John Haley - recent! 1998 on fraud
Robert Palmer - felony for conspiracy
Charles Matthews - guilty plea for bribery
Eugene Fitzhugh - Whitewater - bribery
Webster Hubbell -#2 ranking Justice Dept. Official - felony for embezzlement and fraud
John Latham - CEO of Madison Bank - bank fraud
Campaign Finance:
Johnny Chung - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China
Gene Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC
Nora Lum - convicted - felony for money laundering for the DNC
Howard Glicken - guilty plea - 2 midemeanors - funneling foreign donations
Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie - guilty plea - illegal Clinton campaign donations
John Huang - Clinton cronie - felony guilty plea - funneling money from China
Paula Jonesgate:
William Jefferson Clinton - found guilty - civil contempt of court - lying under oath about material facts. The Office of the Independent Council further presented Clinton with an agreement that had him disbarred from practicing law for 5 years and made him signed statement admitting to his deception
Then please tell us why Billy boy lost his license to practice law?
And why did he have to pay a settlemnent to Paula Jones.

When you have one foot in the grave, are you still going to be ranting this swill? Or would you just like it on your tombstone - I loved/hated Bill Clinton

perplexed wrote:

<quoted text>People go to war because they believe what their CIC tells them and they are indeed heros. When that CIC lies, it doesn't diminish their heroism any, it diminishes any respect given to the liar.

Well stated. The CIC is a criminal but this does not diminish the heroism of the troops.

Mike B Mad River Ca wrote:

<quoted text> You really are a "little man" The word work usually refers to the undertaking of worthwhile tasks, you have misused the word in your context.

That's super. Now get going.

Before jr creates anymore worldly..crimes;

Where are... all the "Mass Graves" from the last 5 years of killing women, children and Insurgents-in Iraq located!!!
The US taxpayer wants to know !!since we are paying for this g@d Damn mess!!!

>jr ..are you .. proud of these "Mass Graves"!!

If Charlie Manson came into your house and murdered your family and hung their heads on the wall.. called it his church.. would that be good or evil?

Would you be a bigot if you said the charles manson church was of Satan?

If Jeffrey Dahmer was raping your children and I was paying his salary... would I be guilty?

Would you be a bigot if you would not allow Jeffrey into your house or wish him God -speed?

There can be no fellowship , no unity with catholics. You pay folks to rape children, keep them as priests. You are criminal element in society.

How could YOU have fellowship with me if I was decorating my churches with the heads of your family?

I suspect if I did that you would say I was evil.

How can anyone discuss the the Bible " with a person that is so inhuman that they find no guilt in pay pedophiles to rape children?

Discuss scripture while you hang human heads as trophies?

First one would have some concept of good vs. evil .Right vs. wrong. God vs. the devil

Conversation with you is like comparing passages with Charles Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer.

Until you admit it is grossly satanic to hang human heads and that paying people to rape children would justly earn a person eternal damnation.. what is the point? You cannot see God.

Call me a bigot if you want but the truth remains the truth .

http://video.google.com/videoplay ...

Satan wrote:

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The Republican "Christian Right" Party likes the term "tax and spend" to define the Democrats. I prefer "tax and spend" to "deficit and spend". At least the Democrats have the fiscal responsibility to pay for their spending and not finance it by borrowing more money from the Chinese.

Yes well, if it weren't Clinton's total ineptness
we may have never been hit on 9-11.
Clinton was offered 3 three times. What has 9-11 cost the american public if not world?
CLINTON LET BIN LADEN SLIP AWAY AND METASTASIZE" BY MANSOOR IJAZ
by Mansoor Ijaz
LOS ANGELES TIMES
December 5, 2001
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.
I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.
From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.
Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.
The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.
As an American Muslim and a political supporter of Clinton, I feel now, as I argued with Clinton and Berger then, that their counter-terrorism policies fueled the rise of Bin Laden from an ordinary man to a Hydra-like monster.
Realizing the growing problem with Bin Laden, Bashir sent key intelligence officials to the U.S. in February 1996.

But thanks for bringing it up!
The Sudanese offered to arrest Bin Laden and extradite him to Saudi Arabia or, barring that, to "baby-sit" him--monitoring all his activities and associates.
But Saudi officials didn't want their home-grown terrorist back where he might plot to overthrow them.
In May 1996, the Sudanese capitulated to U.S. pressure and asked Bin Laden to leave, despite their feeling that he could be monitored better in Sudan than elsewhere.
Bin Laden left for Afghanistan, taking with him Ayman Zawahiri, considered by the U.S. to be the chief planner of the Sept. 11 attacks; Mamdouh Mahmud Salim, who traveled frequently to Germany to obtain electronic equipment for Al Qaeda; Wadih El-Hage, Bin Laden's personal secretary and roving emissary, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya; and Fazul Abdullah Mohammed and Saif Adel, also accused of carrying out the embassy attacks.
Some of these men are now among the FBI's 22 most-wanted terrorists.
The two men who allegedly piloted the planes into the twin towers, Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi, prayed in the same Hamburg mosque as did Salim and Mamoun Darkazanli, a Syrian trader who managed Salim's bank accounts and whose assets are frozen.
Important data on each had been compiled by the Sudanese.
But U.S. authorities repeatedly turned the data away, first in February 1996; then again that August, when at my suggestion Sudan's religious ideologue, Hassan Turabi, wrote directly to Clinton; then again in April 1997, when I persuaded Bashir to invite the FBI to come to Sudan and view the data; and finally in February 1998, when Sudan's intelligence chief, Gutbi al-Mahdi, wrote directly to the FBI.
Gutbi had shown me some of Sudan's data during a three-hour meeting in Khartoum in October 1996. When I returned to Washington, I told Berger and his specialist for East Africa, Susan Rice, about the data available. They said they'd get back to me. They never did. Neither did they respond when Bashir made the offer directly. I believe they never had any intention to engage Muslim countries--ally or not. Radical Islam, for the administration, was a convenient national security threat.
And that was not the end of it. In July 2000--three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen--I brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with Bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings. A senior counter-terrorism official from one of the United States' closest Arab allies--an ally whose name I am not free to divulge--approached me with the proposal after telling me he was fed up with the antics and arrogance of U.S. counter-terrorism officials.
The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.
Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.
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Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations

Yes! I agree!!!!!!!! hahahah

Simbledun
Raleigh, NC Reply »
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Perhaps Mrs. Bush has confused vengeance and vindication.

Perhaps, because he will certainly not be vindicated!!!

perplexed wrote:

<quoted text>I was just wondering about the terrorist attacks under bush's watch - so many listed are on foreign soil, surely there are more since then.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/5902.htm

Maybe Bush will get a pardon at some point. Hmmm, do pardons from US Presidents exonerate someone convicted in World Court?

brad jenks wrote:

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YOU see when YOU hang out at those left wing smut sites you get smut out....
You wrote here...(excuse me, cut and pasted from a left wing smut site)
"Documents since declassified and made public show that the administration was warned by the Defense Intelligence Agency in February 2002, that the tale about a trip to Prague by the leader of the 9/11 highjackers, Mohamed Atta, had come from an unreliable drunk, and that the story about Iraqis training members of al Qaeda on the use of chemical and biological weapons was deliberately fabricated by an Iraqi defector."
Do you know WHEN???? the CIA was told of the meeting between Iraq's embassy employee and "the Arab from Hamburg?"
Do you know WHO??? told the CIA of the meeting?
Do you know WHEN??? the Iraqi embassy employee was expelled from Prague because of the meeting?
Do you even know there was a meeting (probably not Atta) but there was a meeting...
Do you know WHO??? it was who proved the meeting was probably not with Atta?
story at 11...

Well, as don't have access to CIA records I can't give you dates, etc., perhaps in your superior wisdon you can discount each claim. Recent history (since 2001) has cerntainly borne evidence that this report is accurate, whether it be hard left, hard right or right down the middle. This administration has lied continuously - and it's fools like you who perpetuate the lies.

Like the subway attack in europe. Oh yeah, ironically in that attack special forces were also running a training routine that was based on a subway terrorist attack at the exact same time that the attack occurred. Sounds alot like what happened when NORAD was doing their hijack training routine at the exact same time that the WTC was under attack. BTW, why aren't people concerned about 9 of the hijackers whose faces were up on your tv screen on 911 being alive and well today?

perplexed wrote:

<quoted text>I was just wondering about the terrorist attacks under bush's watch - so many listed are on foreign soil, surely there are more since then.

perplexed wrote:

<quoted text>When you have one foot in the grave, are you still going to be ranting this swill? Or would you just like it on your tombstone - I loved/hated Bill Clinton

What's good for the goose is good for the fornicator!

Mike B Mad River Ca wrote:

Patricia Gould is so dishonest and can't tell the truth so I wonder how she would feel if people found out by googling her name that she had an abortion as a teen after being voted class ****, and that her and her husband donated money to planned parenthood, and that the church she keeps talking about is the church of satan, and that they disembowel goats in their backyard. She would probably respond with one of those famous posts of hers that disregard any responsibility to defend her position honestly and then go on to accuse someone of something she has no proof of at all, only her lame assertions. I don't know about anybody else but how boring she's become!

I slammed Mrs. Gould pretty good last night and actually felt bad about it later. After reading some of her other rants of insanity, I feel a lot better. She's just another Christian Right bigot who justifies her own hatred by selective reading of ancient text with no consideration for the historical context and intent.

For reference:

Patricia Gould wrote:
"The only leader my husband and I follow is Jesus Christ who said Thou shalt not kill."

You should read your Bible, Mrs. Gould. According to the Bible, God ordered the annihilation of all men, women, livestock, and slaves of peoples defeated by Israel. The God of the Bible is a pretty blood thirsty guy, just like Bush. To defend the Bible as the literal word of God is frightening....to say the least.

You religious people pick silly issues like abortion and gay rights to rally around while you completely lose sight of Christ's teachings. Your policies promote capital punishment, wars of greed, hateful treatment (even murder) of gays and lesbians....thus driving them forever from the church, destruction of the environment, suppression of women and minorities, corporate greed and exploitation, torture, and genocide. Generally, a complete lack of mercy and compassion. The Republican Party.....owned by the "Christian Right" has perpetuated every evil Jesus preached against in the Gospels. Read your Bible, Mrs. Gould. You will find that Jesus hung out with the "scum of the earth" ....prostitutes, the diseased, fishermen, even tax collectors....NOT people like YOU. THINK ABOUT IT !!! I was raised a Fundamentalist.....I am well educated in the religion I reject and despise.

Dr A Degall wrote:

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That's super. Now get going.

Are you old enough to be on the computer alone? next you'll be saying "I know you are, but what am I" You crack me up! Spit it out it's not yours.

brad jenks wrote:

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"The 1998 document is "the most important PDB about hijacking published before 9/11," Zelikow said. The Aug. 6, 2001, PDB prepared for President Bush mentioned 1998 intelligence concerning a plot by bin Laden "to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of 'Blind Sheik' Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists."
"Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, played down the importance of the hijack reference in that memo, saying it was based on "old reporting."
Old reporting...old intelligence...is NOT lying...1998 report.....is OLD...
Oops, WHO lies?

OK - really, really stupid. And the lies run rampant.

Mike B Mad River Ca wrote:

<quoted text> Again Patricia, be honest! Can you really not understand my ? If you can't that would make you dense. An observation connected to dishonest behavior, not an insult. Perhaps I should say that you are being obtuse, then that would be an insult too? Now stop with all the rhetoric and answer the question or is God shielding your eyes to only that part of my posts? One more time pat: explain how bush can be pro life and support the death penalty and of course that whole killing of innocents in Iraq, including your precious "miracles". Yes pat, little children too! Now answer the question or shut up already, your being very intellectually dishonest and that's not an insult, it's the truth.

If I may you self righteous blowhard....let me answer for her. Bush is pro - innocent life. Therein lies the distinction between abortion and capital punishment. Those who commit capital murder have sacrificed the rights that the innocent continue to possess. As far as the innocents in Iraq are concerned it is only clueless left wing numbskulls who attempt to reinforce their misguided position by equating those who may die within the context of armed conflict ( despite efforts to avoid/minimize ) and innocents who are deliberately and purposely targeted for annihilation. If you had a conscience I'd say you should be ashamed.
Now get back down there.

Wow

Mrs Bush I would divorce my husband.I would not be able to sleep with him. Just a reminder to you of how the American people feel! This town got it right,Vt. Towns Approve Bush 'Indictment'. And this is just a bit of what most people in this country think.
I cannot even put bush or cheney's names in capital letters, they do not deserve the notion of respect. Neither one of them served in the military, bush pretends to have served but nobody in his Non-Combat, Air National Guard unit ever saw him on duty (and he never served in Vietnam during the war), however, both draft dodgers have taken an incredibly active role in attacking and murdering over a hundred thousand men, women and children of an innocent country (Iraq). cheney took five deferments from Vietnam while bush went AWOL and was off getting drunk, doing cocaine and smashing his automobiles into trees.Both of these creeps should be tried by the Iraqi citizens and then sentenced by them (I believe they would be hung from a lamp post in the street in about six seconds. The amazing number of horrible crimes committed by these two low lives and their sick, criminal accomplices is without question the worst thing that has ever happened to America. In fact, rove, rumsfeld and rice should be executed as well ,and libby should remain in the worst prison for the remainder of his treasonous life. Nobody has ever caused this kind criminal behavior in the world and gotten away with it.Every State, city, town and community needs to do like the two great towns in Vermont and require their Police to arrest bush and his entire cadre and put them behind bars until they are extradited to Iraq for Due Process of Iraqi Law and the appropriate sentencing (death by hanging). They should be tried for war crimes, Constitutional crimes, Election Fraud and various acts of Treason, but I think the world would be much more proud and respectful of America if we let the Iraqi citizens deal with this scum of the earth. We all need to get together and rally to have bush, cheney, rove, rumsfeld, rice, libby and all of the other maggots in the White House's woodwork put in prison and dealt with like the treasonous murderers they are.

abel wrote:

If Charlie Manson came into your house and murdered your family and hung their heads on the wall.. called it his church.. would that be good or evil?
Would you be a bigot if you said the charles manson church was of Satan?
If Jeffrey Dahmer was raping your children and I was paying his salary... would I be guilty?
Would you be a bigot if you would not allow Jeffrey into your house or wish him God -speed?
There can be no fellowship , no unity with catholics. You pay folks to rape children, keep them as priests. You are criminal element in society.
How could YOU have fellowship with me if I was decorating my churches with the heads of your family?
I suspect if I did that you would say I was evil.
How can anyone discuss the the Bible " with a person that is so inhuman that they find no guilt in pay pedophiles to rape children?
Discuss scripture while you hang human heads as trophies?
First one would have some concept of good vs. evil .Right vs. wrong. God vs. the devil
Conversation with you is like comparing passages with Charles Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer.
Until you admit it is grossly satanic to hang human heads and that paying people to rape children would justly earn a person eternal damnation.. what is the point? You cannot see God.
Call me a bigot if you want but the truth remains the truth .
http://video.google.com/videoplay ...

You must be conversing with Patricia Gould. LOL