Immigration gets put on backburner

John Kuhlman wrote:

For the damage that the wall will do to wildlife, go to the following web site:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

John Kuhlman wrote:

For the damage that the wall will do to wildlife, go to the following web site:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Jake wrote:

None of the leading presidential candidates speak about illegal immigration because they support it. If any candidate admitted to supporting illegals, most Americans would not vote for that person.

John Kuhlman wrote:

For the damage that the wall will do to wildlife, go to the following web site:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

NC Native wrote:

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LOL. I read the article you linked and it gave me a good laugh over my morning coffee. So some "scientists" - who coincidentally probably support open borders for illegal immigrants and amnesty and citizenship for the millions of criminal migrants already here - believe that the welfare of SEVENTY, that's right, folks, 7-0 "Sonoran pronghorns" supercedes the welfare of hundreds of millions of legal, law-abiding HUMAN residents of the United states. Give me a break.
I'm a scientist, too, except my specialty deals with HUMAN behavior. I see guys like you on this forum with regularity, acting out their personal agendas by being provocative and oppositional in a passive aggressive way. You seem to think that by "yanking other people's chains", so to speak, that it proves your intellectual and moral superiority. Well, I've got news for you. Your childish antics betray your immaturity and lack of empathy for your fellow HUMAN BEINGS, characteristics of someone with unresolved resentments and frustrations and grandiose and narcissistic tendencies, rather than the self-actualized emotional giant that I'm sure you imagine yourself to be. After all, real maturity starts when you begin to understand the difference between right and wrong, and are able to act on this understanding in the best interest of others. And ironically, if you really do care about the plight of the poor downtrodden illegal immigrant as you profess, your actions are only serving to give ammunition to the opposition by raising their ire and motivating them to take further action.
I personally don't know of anyone - from little old Grandmas to young people preparing to vote for the first time - that believe the immigration problem is a "back-burner" issue. Quite the opposite. Everyone I know expresses their frustration that not ONE of the top candidates for President support their very strong views that we need to start enforcing our immigration laws.
Drastic measures like fences would be unneccessary if only our elected officials would insist that everyone abide by the law. Anyone who is sincere about "protecting wildlife" should therefore get on board in support of putting a stop to the epidemic of illegal immigration that is destroying the quality of life in America and making a mockery of our system of justice, and therefore our very way of life.
Politicians ... are you listening?

NC Native wrote:

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LOL. I read the article you linked and it gave me a good laugh over my morning coffee. So some "scientists" - who coincidentally probably support open borders for illegal immigrants and amnesty and citizenship for the millions of criminal migrants already here - believe that the welfare of SEVENTY, that's right, folks, 7-0 "Sonoran pronghorns" supercedes the welfare of hundreds of millions of legal, law-abiding HUMAN residents of the United states. Give me a break.
I'm a scientist, too, except my specialty deals with HUMAN behavior. I see guys like you on this forum with regularity, acting out their personal agendas by being provocative and oppositional in a passive aggressive way. You seem to think that by "yanking other people's chains", so to speak, that it proves your intellectual and moral superiority. Well, I've got news for you. Your childish antics betray your immaturity and lack of empathy for your fellow HUMAN BEINGS, characteristics of someone with unresolved resentments and frustrations and grandiose and narcissistic tendencies, rather than the self-actualized emotional giant that I'm sure you imagine yourself to be. After all, real maturity starts when you begin to understand the difference between right and wrong, and are able to act on this understanding in the best interest of others. And ironically, if you really do care about the plight of the poor downtrodden illegal immigrant as you profess, your actions are only serving to give ammunition to the opposition by raising their ire and motivating them to take further action.
I personally don't know of anyone - from little old Grandmas to young people preparing to vote for the first time - that believe the immigration problem is a "back-burner" issue. Quite the opposite. Everyone I know expresses their frustration that not ONE of the top candidates for President support their very strong views that we need to start enforcing our immigration laws.
Drastic measures like fences would be unneccessary if only our elected officials would insist that everyone abide by the law. Anyone who is sincere about "protecting wildlife" should therefore get on board in support of putting a stop to the epidemic of illegal immigration that is destroying the quality of life in America and making a mockery of our system of justice, and therefore our very way of life.
Politicians ... are you listening?

yona wrote:

This bares another look.
2007
Comprehensive immigration reform bill — S. 1639
Clinton, McCain and Obama voted for it.
Declaring English as official language of the U.S. government — S. 1348, Amendment 1150
McCain voted for it; Clinton and Obama voted against.
2006
Building a fence along the Mexican border — H.R. 6061
Clinton, McCain and Obama voted for it.
Establishing a guest-worker program — S. 2611
Clinton, McCain and Obama voted for it.
Giving guest workers a path to citizenship — S. 2611, Amendment 3969
Clinton, McCain and Obama voted for it.
Source: GNS research, Ontheissues.org
These are our Presidencial candidates and there isn't a hairs breath of difference in any of them.
We must stop the easy flow of illegals crossing our border. Followed by cutting off social tax payer funded programs to the illegals.
We need to get a ruling on the 14 amendment about the status and meaning of anchor babies. It was never supposed to mean illegals using children to obtain a foothold here illegally.
Next we need to systematically enforce the laws. Raise fines and penalties on businesses that hire illegals. Deport all illegals found living in the US. Make it a priority with all law enforcement to search out detain and deport all illegals in their area.
Finally we need to make the citizenship process more user friendly. Speed it up and make it a desireable way to immigrate, instead of illegally.

Tex wrote:

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You make some good points, but it's not feasible to locate all illegals living in the US. It's much less expensive to provide a path to legal residence and eventually citizenship. Then they can PAY taxes instead of costing us money to hunt them down send them home.

born here wrote:

ALL WE NEED TO DO IS CHANGE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS TO MATCH MEXICO`S LAWS. THEY ARE VERY STRICT. YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE CAUGHT IN MEXICO WITHOUT A VALID VISA. AND THE PRICE IS HIGH IF YOU OVER-STAY. THEY LAUGH AT OUR WEAK POLICIES AND COMPLETELY IGNORE THEM. IF WE JUST MATCH THEIR LAWS, THEN THERE WOULD BE NO "SPLAINING" TO DO. THEY WOULD GET THE PICTURE IMMEDIATELY.