We? Exactly who will have this oil 5, 10, 15 or 20 years from now? Are we going to nationalise it? Or, as is legally required under current US law, are the corporations going to sell to the highest bidder?<quoted text>
Agreed.
The sooner we get started on more drilling for oil in this country the sooner we will have that oil, whether it is 5 years or 10 years from now.
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Never did like the word nationalize/nationalizm. The next words that will inevitably follow are socialism/communism. If we nationilze the oil companies, who's next? Obvioulsy heath care is high on the list. That being said. We should probably have some kind of restrictions in the export of domestic crude and its domestically produced byproducts if we don't have these already. including gasoline |
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Call it what you will, I'm not sure it's any more effective than just providing direct subsidy, i.e. government subsidised energy.
Countries the world over have taken that route. However it also has the side effect of increasing consumption. So would any scheme to lower the price below the 'market rate'. I can imagine socialising medicine before finite natural resources like oil. You don't have to actually buy oil or gas to survive, you do need to get treated if you get run over by a car. The only other option is some type of rationing. That is actually more fair, keeps the price down without taking anything from the taxpayers or oil companies. Plus, I can sell my extra rations to you! You think there is some price point we would go to that? |
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well stated...
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“The Obama Energy Plan” Joined: Jan 24, 2008 Comments: 5400 |
I keep reading references by liberal critics of the oil companies to selling to the highest bidder. I don't know why this troubles some people so much. The oil companies will sell the oil at the market price, but I don't forsee them exporting it to China while American motorists have to wait in line for their gasoline rations. Is that really what some people are afraid will happen? |
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I absolutely agree that simple minds require or look for simply solutions. This is a crisis and it should be handled as one. To do nothing at all is a huge mistake. Let's look at the history of Brazil or Argentina to see how they achieved energy indepenence. Then see how the model could be modified for our country. I agree that our lawmakers and the oil companies have not been truthful with their constituanes or their common stock holders. But now is not the time to point fingers. Now is the time to exercise your voice to your congressman or senators to move these people to do the will of those that vote for them. The power of one is tremendous and one together is powerful. Speak to those in control or be quiet. Like another bloggers here: either be apart of the solution or know that you are apart of the problem.
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Of course that is what will happen. There are two types of rationing-by price and by fixed amount per person/car/other unit of measurement. Right now we have the former. If it gets too expensive then it will switch to the latter to lower the price. That would actually encourage oil companies to sell oil overseas...and besides, we import 2/3 of our oil, so no exporting needed. No amount of drilling will change that ratio much. Read american coporate law. If they bring oil here to sell it cheaper than they could in China out of the goodness of their hearts, their shareholders would sue (and win). |
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We are currently importing 60 percent of the oil we use. So why would we export oil that we'll just have to turn around and import again? This is an unfounded fear. |
There are plenty of other people out there that would like that oil. Espically if the supply does not grow or actually shrinks like many people think will happen. |
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Chris, Think about what you are saying. We are importing oceans of oil every day. If these other people want more oil they could simply get it straight from the source in Africa or the Middle East instead of from us. And if they do take the oil we want then we will need our own supplies even more. |
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It won't take more than 2 years to get oil to the consumer, and what's the alternative anyway? The Dems are against Nuclear, Oil Shale, Coal and Drilling. The Governator of Ca is even getting grief from the greenies against "Solar" (worried about a rat Habitat) where they want to set up panels and "Wind" (worried about birds flying into Prop blades)DRILL for oil and invest in Nuke pwr and emerging technology or keep bending over for the middle east. Easy Choice?
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