Nelson proposes scrapping Electoral College system

Scrap it!

Any system that prevents the lunatic Al Gore from becoming the president must be okay. Let's keep it!

moot point when elections are bought and sold

Nelson, will that guy ever leave office. You know, Nelson Family is in our family tree, but I have half a notion to erase that entry.

Am I to believe that Bill Nelson is smarter than the Founding Fathers of this Nation. I don't think so. So I say we leave it. He's only crying because he beleives it cost Gore the Election in 2000. If it were the other way around he would be all for the Electoral College. He's a hypocrite.

I've felt we should scrap this system for a long time. There's no need for it. I voted for Bush, but I'm not so sure Gore would've done any worse.

Stop worshipping the "founding fathers", or "founders".

They weren't gods.

The circumstances have changed in many ways since the 'founders'. For one, they anticipate the formation of corporations as legal persons that would overtake the human. They didn't foresee these massive corporations living endlessly, buying up and dominating America's media. Nor did they anticipate the multibillion dollar campaign 'market'.

Times have changed.

Democrats have lost 7 out of the last 10 presidential elections.

Now Nelson (democrat) wants to change the whole system.

Go figure.

LOL.

Block Nobama wrote:

moot point when elections are bought and sold

EXACTLY!

I was lucky enough to have an amazing government teacher in high school that explained in detail about our rights as a democratic nation.

Through out class it was explained to us how the electoral college works, generally the EC is swayed toward the populous vote however there is no law requiring it to be and the decision is ultimately up to the EC. Bottom line the individuals vote does not necessarily count but at the same time we were also taught that as a democratic nation it was our right to choose to vote. Choose being a very important word. For those of us who were 18 at the time our teacher gave us voter registration cards and told us to make a decision to vote or not but that we needed to CHOOSE.

(I know I will be attacked for this but....) Because of these lesson's that have stuck with me for life I CHOSE not to vote and not to register (and still do to this day). This is my right as an American living in a democratic nation. Alone with the right to vote I have the choice not to.

At the time when the EC was outlined by the founding father's you needed to be Free, White and Over 21 to vote. At that time due to these requirement's the population allowed to vote was very limited. The EC may have worked however times have changed, now you just need to be 18, registered and not convicted of a crime resulting in the individual's loss of right to vote.

The population is larger, educated (or at least has the ability to be) and has access to resources that allows us to vote.

If we all decided to CHOOSE not to vote we would still end up with an elected president every 4 yrs due to the Electoral College.

I strongly agree (always have and always will) that the EC needs to be dissolved or at least a law should be passed that requires the EC to vote the way of the populous vote.

The Nelson bill is TWO really good ideas in one.

a) The Electoral College is bunk--a "superdelegate" shell game to keep power concentrated among elites (typical that the 'small government' wingnuts are railing against its abolition). Aside from being democracy-phobes, the founders lived in a radicaly different world: no such thing as the electronic mass media, interstates/cars, suburbanization, etc.

b) Rotating regional primaries. Brilliant. Ridiculous that Iowa and NH, etc. have such overblown influence.

Nelson's done a good thing here. I hope the Sentinel continues to cover the issue, to see who lines up against it and why.

If you want a handful of the most populas states to control every election, then scrap it.

If you still want a say in who is President, then we need to keep it!!

Better Idea-let's get rid of Bill Nelson.

Of all the problems our esteemed Senator could be working on such as:

1. Budget reforms
2. Social Security reforms
3. The national debt
4. The trade deficit
5. Loss of American manufacturing jobs.
6. And many more.

This bozo wants to tinker with the US Constitution to fix a non-existent problem.

It is surely time to elect Senators that will work to solve the problems this country faces. Many of which were created by the politicians in the first place.

A candidate that knows he can't win California or New York will spend very little time there because it is a winner take all on the delegates.

So, who won the popular vote is a mute point. The winner is not after the popular vote.

The Democratic party splits delegates in the primary and have enough elite super delegates to thwart the results, no matter what the results were.

The current system works fine and we're not about to let you change it. God help us if it looked anything like the Democrats primary process.

Oviously the man does not understand the Constitution nor the purpose of the Electoral College. Our founding fathers did NOT want the Presidential elections to be decided by popular vote as it would be mob rule. What is wrong with these people?

Let me get this straight. Just because Bill Nelson knows Obama is going to get trounced by John McCain (not necessarily in the popular vote, but EC), he wants to change the rules? I believe the Electoral College is still revelent today because it prevents large states/metro areas from having too much power. If we went to to a popular vote only, we would loose all checks and balances on the already ultra liberal media.

MrFindley, you got it!
Bill Nelson is a good example of why there should be term limits. He's a professional politician, in it for life. Ugh.

Yeah. People who gain more knowledge with time should be kicked out of office.

observer wrote:

MrFindley, you got it!
Bill Nelson is a good example of why there should be term limits. He's a professional politician, in it for life. Ugh.

McCain has been a "professional politician" since 1982. Go bite yourself.