Ensign: Exclude Gunshot Wounds from Lifespan Stats; We Love Our Guns

Sep 29, 2009 Full story: snafu-ed.blogspot.com 261
It's been tried before: those against the public option for Universal Health Care like to say that we should exclude deaths from guns from statistical evidence that the U.S. lags behind other nations. Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) made not just that statement, but also that deaths from auto accidents should be excluded as well, as both are "cultural factors." Here's an exchange between him and Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND). Full Story
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“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”

Since: Sep 08

Gotham City

#1 Sep 29, 2009
What.... more Republicants trying to skirt responsibility?

Guns Kill.
Gun Advocates should accept responsibility for that and make sure that Gun buyers, collectors, and enthusiast are properly trained and education on how to use them.

There is a reason why the 2nd amendment says:

"A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

REGULATED

.... you gun nuts are just that.

Nuts, to the point where you can't even properly understand the law that you promote...

This is just another conservative tiring to de-regulate the law so that the truth doesn't come out.

What else is new?
dos

United States

#2 Sep 29, 2009
Responsible people should have the right to bear arms.
frank

Claremont, MN

#3 Sep 29, 2009
WHAT!a gunshot death is cultural factor? if you die at 30 from a gun shot that is yoru life span.
cultural factors

Palm Bay, FL

#4 Sep 29, 2009
The greatest cause of death is car accidents and heart attacks.
Flight 11
FLight 93
Flight 175
Flight 77
From Wiki
The plane's transponder was turned off at 8:28 a.m.
At 8:46 a.m., Atta crashed the Boeing 767 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
This was the first aircraft to hit the towers.
Because the flight from Portland to Boston had been delayed, his bags did not make it onto Flight 11.
Atta's bags were later recovered in Logan International Airport, and they contained airline uniforms, flight manuals, and other items.
The luggage included a copy of Atta's will, written in Arabic,
which contained a list of instructions, such as "make an oath to die and renew your intentions",
"you should feel complete tranquility, because the time between you and your marriage in heaven is very short",
and "check your weapon before you leave and long before you leave.

You must make your knife sharp and you must not discomfort your animal during the slaughter".
The Old Coach

Spring, TX

#5 Sep 29, 2009
Danny_Livewire wrote:
What.... more Republicants trying to skirt responsibility?
Guns Kill.
Gun Advocates should accept responsibility for that and make sure that Gun buyers, collectors, and enthusiast are properly trained and education on how to use them.
There is a reason why the 2nd amendment says:
"A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
REGULATED
.... you gun nuts are just that.
Nuts, to the point where you can't even properly understand the law that you promote...
This is just another conservative tiring to de-regulate the law so that the truth doesn't come out.
What else is new?
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The People means each individual US citizen. Case closed. You progressive socialist liberals are trying to re-interpret the law to take guns away from the citizens so they don't rebel against your attepmts for total control of our lives, money and thinking. Ain't gonna happen, bubba.
frank

Claremont, MN

#6 Sep 29, 2009
dos--where does it say in the constitution only responsible people can own guns?

“i hope we can change this!”

Since: Aug 08

usa

#8 Sep 29, 2009
Danny_Livewire wrote:
What.... more Republicants trying to skirt responsibility?
Guns Kill.
Gun Advocates should accept responsibility for that and make sure that Gun buyers, collectors, and enthusiast are properly trained and education on how to use them.
There is a reason why the 2nd amendment says:
"A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
REGULATED
.... you gun nuts are just that.
Nuts, to the point where you can't even properly understand the law that you promote...
This is just another conservative tiring to de-regulate the law so that the truth doesn't come out.
What else is new?
jeez, take a pill!

then shut your dumbass up!
you have NO CLUE what you're talking about ... ever.

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

United States

#9 Sep 29, 2009
Danny_Livewire wrote:
What.... more Republicants trying to skirt responsibility?
Guns Kill.
Gun Advocates should accept responsibility for that and make sure that Gun buyers, collectors, and enthusiast are properly trained and education on how to use them.
There is a reason why the 2nd amendment says:
"A well REGULATED Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
REGULATED
.... you gun nuts are just that.
Nuts, to the point where you can't even properly understand the law that you promote...
This is just another conservative tiring to de-regulate the law so that the truth doesn't come out.
What else is new?
WHAT A LOON.

The real story his comments bring up is that the ARE NO STANDARDS FOR HEALTH REPORTING TO THE W.H.O.

In other words, you can turn in doctored or scrubbed numbers to make you country look good or better and not only is there no way to verify but no one is asking for verification or setting a standard for inclusion & exclusions.

Do you really think Fidel Castro turns in legitimate, non-scrubbed Health Care numbers?

Is Michael Moore that stupid too?

Yes on both counts?
dos

United States

#10 Sep 29, 2009
cultural factors wrote:
The greatest cause of death is car accidents and heart attacks.
Flight 11
FLight 93
Flight 175
Flight 77
From Wiki
The plane's transponder was turned off at 8:28 a.m.
At 8:46 a.m., Atta crashed the Boeing 767 into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.
This was the first aircraft to hit the towers.
Because the flight from Portland to Boston had been delayed, his bags did not make it onto Flight 11.
Atta's bags were later recovered in Logan International Airport, and they contained airline uniforms, flight manuals, and other items.
The luggage included a copy of Atta's will, written in Arabic,
which contained a list of instructions, such as "make an oath to die and renew your intentions",
"you should feel complete tranquility, because the time between you and your marriage in heaven is very short",
and "check your weapon before you leave and long before you leave.
You must make your knife sharp and you must not discomfort your animal during the slaughter".
and speaking of car accidents...what is the safety factor from those baby cars Obama wants us all to buy.

Those tin baby cars are deathtraps. How come no one is addressing the safety factor of those cars!?!?!?

Is there a car conspiracy?
What do you think the survival rate of an accident in those cars...just think of the hospital bills...how many children will die as a result of these safety-less cars.

We've got a crazy president that wants to put us in tiny dangerous cars where if there was an accident ALL would die or be seriously, seriously injured.
dos

United States

#11 Sep 29, 2009
frank wrote:
dos--where does it say in the constitution only responsible people can own guns?


I know...it doesn't ...I just think of the nutcases that get a gun and use it to commit crimes/murders.

I support gun ownership.
shadow

Maxton, NC

#12 Sep 29, 2009
and what should we replace those statistics with? death by gang member or crazed redneck?

“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”

Since: Sep 08

Gotham City

#13 Sep 29, 2009
The Old Coach wrote:
<quoted text>
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The People means each individual US citizen. Case closed. You progressive socialist liberals are trying to re-interpret the law to take guns away from the citizens so they don't rebel against your attepmts for total control of our lives, money and thinking. Ain't gonna happen, bubba.
You copy only HALF of the law.... and are trying to say that I am "re-interpreting" it???

You left off the first few words for a reason!!!

Old rich white people kill too.
Not just minoirities.

Guns & Bombs make it easy to kill.... That is why they are dangerous....

Should the right to bear arms allow me the right to have a SAM site in my backyard? Missles and hydrogen bombs are arms as well.... What makes nuclear arms exclusive?

REGULATION

Stop editing the constitution for your agenda!

“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”

Since: Sep 08

Gotham City

#14 Sep 29, 2009
The laughing liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
WHAT A LOON.
The real story his comments bring up is that the ARE NO STANDARDS FOR HEALTH REPORTING TO THE W.H.O.
In other words, you can turn in doctored or scrubbed numbers to make you country look good or better and not only is there no way to verify but no one is asking for verification or setting a standard for inclusion & exclusions.
Do you really think Fidel Castro turns in legitimate, non-scrubbed Health Care numbers?
Is Michael Moore that stupid too?
Yes on both counts?
AAHAHAH..... It's called RESEARCH.... have you ever heard of it?

I know your used to looking at "facts" that are really just lies from your radio and TV programs.... But the UN usese multiple sources and multiple institutions.

They don't rely on television / radio networks like Fox News for the numbers.
Buck

Livonia, MI

#15 Sep 29, 2009
dos wrote:
<quoted text>
and speaking of car accidents...what is the safety factor from those baby cars Obama wants us all to buy.
Those tin baby cars are deathtraps. How come no one is addressing the safety factor of those cars!?!?!?
Is there a car conspiracy?
What do you think the survival rate of an accident in those cars...just think of the hospital bills...how many children will die as a result of these safety-less cars.
We've got a crazy president that wants to put us in tiny dangerous cars where if there was an accident ALL would die or be seriously, seriously injured.
The saftey factor is with you. Be alert, keep your eyes on the road and your hands on the wheel. Stay alive don't drink and drive.

“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”

Since: Sep 08

Gotham City

#16 Sep 29, 2009
dos wrote:
<quoted text>
I know...it doesn't ...I just think of the nutcases that get a gun and use it to commit crimes/murders.
I support gun ownership.
It specifically says REGULATE in the 2nd amendment.... This means the constitution SPECIFICALLY states that gun owners must be regulated.... meaning trained, educated, and TRUSTED with protecting others.

Every human has a right to bear arms. Everyone should go to school to learn how to proper shoot and carry weapons. We all have a right to that power.....

But with any power, comes responsibility..... and owning up to mistakes is what responsibility is all about.

People die from bullet wounds. Own up to that responsibility you gun-nuts!

Maybe then, we will stop thinking your clinically insane......

(But due to that last statement, I can see why you are afraid of enforcing safety regulations)

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#17 Sep 29, 2009
dos wrote:
Responsible people should have the right to bear arms.
No responsible person would want to bear an arm. They're just for those paranoids who feel they're about to be attacked, or for those who think it's fun to kill. Yahahahaha!

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#18 Sep 29, 2009
The Old Coach wrote:
<quoted text>
"the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The People means each individual US citizen. Case closed. You progressive socialist liberals are trying to re-interpret the law to take guns away from the citizens so they don't rebel against your attepmts for total control of our lives, money and thinking. Ain't gonna happen, bubba.
Funny how you left out the first part, about "a well-regulated Militia". Exactly what is your "militia" called, "Nut Cases on Parade"?

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#19 Sep 29, 2009
Jigs are useless wrote:
<quoted text> BREAKING NEWS: Guns don't kill. Dangerous minorities do!
I think there is a "whites only" Hell. No need to pack. Just go as you are.

“Historic American President”

Since: Jun 07

Immigration Reformed!

#20 Sep 29, 2009
I have a better idea; letís exclude all the unpatriotic right-wing idiots from our country. Send them to an island that has the possibility of being hit by a tsunami. Iím convinced that there is no hope for the right or for our country if they ever regained power again.
Yep

Glen Cove, NY

#21 Sep 29, 2009
Jigs are useless wrote:
<quoted text> BREAKING NEWS: Guns don't kill. Dangerous minorities do!
You are absolutely correct. If we got rid of the turd worlders and the scumbag politicians that let them in and force us to live with them, life expectancy would go way up. Rope and torch are the paths to liberty.

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