Co-chair to the McCain campaign stepped down after criticism of his "nation of whiners" comment

OLD LADY wrote:

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What exactly are you perposing?Do you want the government to run the show?A free market is America,should we toss it out and start with the government taking care of everything for us?I don't get what you want to do..

I think we should blend the Repubs and the Dems together...I would sound like McSame and No-mo-bama.

Dajokerman wrote:

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What I am getting at is that Republicans don't understand what Americans go through every day. They are out of touch and have been from the start. They harp about how they are the party of values but they value nothing unless it can be sold.
And no, I don't want goverment to take care of me, I was it to represent me for once instead of some suit in an office on the top floor of some building that doesn't care who the hell they have to step on to get their money.
And what are you talking about? There is no free market.

It was free before the "Tinkering"

just had lunch wrote:

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that's ALL you do, is whine ... well, i take that back, you bitch and point fingers pretty good too.

We will second that. Haven't seen a Democrat yet, who when confronted with the truth, didn't conplain, whine or whatever. Hey Buzz you want a little cheese with that whine?? Might just mellow you a bit.....

McCain has flip flopped on many issues. But he has not flip flopped on our bad trade agreements like NAFTA and WTO China.

If he gets in, the corporations will continue to ship jobs, wealth, technology and the backbone of the middle class economy overseas. McCain will not flip flop on his sycophant servitude to international corporations.

Just look at his campaign staff who represented foreign companies that McCain helped. McCain went out of his way to kill a military contract award to Boeing worth up to nearly $100 billion. He also went out of his way to make sure the recompete would be stacked in EADs favor by forcing a change in the evaluation criteria. This interference in the regulation of contract awards for the sake of his political financial fund raisers is as crooked as NIXON and Taminy Hall.

Dajokerman wrote:

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What I am getting at is that Republicans don't understand what Americans go through every day. They are out of touch and have been from the start. They harp about how they are the party of values but they value nothing unless it can be sold.
And no, I don't want goverment to take care of me, I was it to represent me for once instead of some suit in an office on the top floor of some building that doesn't care who the hell they have to step on to get their money.
And what are you talking about? There is no free market.

Both parties are,(I have no words to discribe the bullchit going on with the 2 parties..)We need to get all of them the hell out of there and start fresh..None of them give a damn about any of us,as soon as people understand that,the better off we will be.
Wait a minute I think I've got free confused with perfect,and america sure hasn't got one of them markets...lol It's not a controlled market,what is it?

Again, your comments are not factual

Income taxes
- Running against Hillary - raise taxes at $75K and up
- Running against McCain - raise taxes at $250K and up.

Hey Barrack, not enough votes below $75K, HUH!

Spending
-McCain is the only candidate talking about this. He's championed efforts to create a line item veto, a bill against earmarks and voted against the last tax cut simply because he wanted spending cuts as well. And you state he's done nothing. Your incorrect.

Balancing the Budget - you do this more business not more taxes. He's aware today of $200B in wasteful spending annually today. Barrack hasn't mentioned one thing about controlling spending. Not one comment!

The Middle class runs the country not corporations! Really, so what does the middle class do for a living if we don't have corporations? Tell me! Here is a fact! Corporations don't pay taxes, consumers do. Go ahead raise corporate taxes, the consumers suffer with higher cost of goods and services! Now explain how that is good for America!

By the way, Obama won't do anything different in Iraq of Afganistan. He can't and he knows it.

McCains tax plan
endorsed by McCain. It would give households (including those with small business income) a choice between the current tax code and one with a top rate of 25 percent on all income over $100,000. This would have the beneficial effect of lowering the tax rate on most small-business income by 10 percentage points. Small businesses haven’t faced a tax rate that low in quite some time and would be likely to respond with the creation of new businesses and more investment in existing businesses.

The McCain small business tax plan doesn’t end there. For those businesses that are organized as conventional corporations, the top tax rate would fall from 35 percent to 25 percent, the European average. For all businesses, technology and equipment — which now must be slowly “depreciated” over many years — would be immediately expensed in year one.

Stepping back, voters and policymakers should ask themselves whether they want two-thirds of small business income taxed at a 50 percent tax rate or if they want nearly all small-business income taxed at a 25 percent tax rate. They should ask themselves whether it’s healthier for small businesses to write off a computer over six calendar years or to simply write it off in year one. To America’s small business sector, the answer is obvious.

Truth Defined wrote:

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Personally, I am not excited about either candidate's personal history. They both lack something to be desired. Based on that, I will vote based policy issues.
McCain will reduce spending. How? Has he said where he will cut? I haven't heard it. Bush said the same thing 8 years ago. He NEVER cut spending, but he did cut income, and he INCREASED spending.
McCain has said that he will balance the budget in 4 years. Has he said how? It's not possible. McCain knows that and you know it, too. The last fiscally conservative Republican was Reagan. Clinton was more fiscally conservative than George W. Bust and McCain.
Obama has, at least, been honest about it. He WILL raise taxes for people making $250,000+ per year. He is going to LOWER taxes on the middle class which I am all for. The MIDDLE CLASS drives the economy, not corporations. When the middle class struggles, the economy struggles as witnessed over the last few years. Many corporations are fiscally sound--especially the oil companies.
Plus, he will at least not continue to spend our tax dollars on a fruitless war effort. That money will at least be used to help the American citizen.
What are McCain proposals? All I've heard is what he doesn't like about Obama. The truth is that he will the approach of President Bust and things will continue to get worse.

As Barack Obama began his trip to the Middle East and Europe, the media was already speculating about the possibility of a gaffe. Obama's travel "carries political risk," the New York Times reported, "particularly if Mr. Obama makes a mistake."

But the only foreign policy error made in the last few days came this morning on ABC's Good Morning America, when John McCain made ANOTHER geography gaffe while trying to criticize Obama's visit to Iraq.(Just last week, McCain repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that hasn't existed since 1993.)

Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded: "I think it's serious.... It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."

But as ABC's Rick Klein noted: "Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do."

Get Informed wrote:

Hey Everyone. David has a problem. He's tried to do something about it. He's been to a support group but nothing works.
He wants everyone to know he's a COMPULSIVE LIAR!
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As Barack Obama began his trip to the Middle East and Europe, the media was already speculating about the possibility of a gaffe. Obama's travel "carries political risk," the New York Times reported, "particularly if Mr. Obama makes a mistake."

But the only foreign policy error made in the last few days came this morning on ABC's Good Morning America, when John McCain made ANOTHER geography gaffe while trying to criticize Obama's visit to Iraq.(Just last week, McCain repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that hasn't existed since 1993.)

Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded: "I think it's serious.... It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."

But as ABC's Rick Klein noted: "Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do."

HEY EVERYONE. David's at it again. Copying and Pasting this garbage on every forum. His goal tonight is to post this crap on every forum by the time his mother knocks on his door and tells him it's time to get off his computer!

David wrote:

As Barack Obama began his trip to the Middle East and Europe, the media was already speculating about the possibility of a gaffe. Obama's travel "carries political risk," the New York Times reported, "particularly if Mr. Obama makes a mistake."
But the only foreign policy error made in the last few days came this morning on ABC's Good Morning America, when John McCain made ANOTHER geography gaffe while trying to criticize Obama's visit to Iraq.(Just last week, McCain repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that hasn't existed since 1993.)
Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded: "I think it's serious.... It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."
But as ABC's Rick Klein noted: "Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do."

Joker...if you read your post objectively you would recognize how you believe it is the governments role to rescue you. It's not.

You remind me of an old cartoon character who always got himself into a fix and then he cried out for the wizard to rescue him. The irony is he never learned...each week he got himself into another predicament.

If you want to hurt the corporations, then don't buy their products. If you read that Obama is really accepting bundled money from corporations and special interests then don't turn away and deny it. It's more about you and what you have decided to accept.

Government is not your wizard...it's you who is in control over yourself.

Dajokerman wrote:

You know it is a shame that it took this long for the average American to know that phil's remarks on people losing their jobs or aren't making enough money as whiners are really how all Republicans feel about them and their problems at home.
Lost your job?...tough luck
Can't feed your kids?...tough luck
Sick?..tougn luck
Lost your home?... tough luck
It doesn't matter how much you suffer as long as the corperations make their money, it means the economy is sound and you are just a loser in their eyes.
When will America wake up and see these crooks in the republican party selling away your country and life.

David wrote:

<quoted text>As Barack Obama began his trip to the Middle East and Europe, the media was already speculating about the possibility of a gaffe. Obama's travel "carries political risk," the New York Times reported, "particularly if Mr. Obama makes a mistake."
But the only foreign policy error made in the last few days came this morning on ABC's Good Morning America, when John McCain made ANOTHER geography gaffe while trying to criticize Obama's visit to Iraq.(Just last week, McCain repeatedly referred to Czechoslovakia, a country that hasn't existed since 1993.)
Asked by Diane Sawyer whether the "the situation in Afghanistan in precarious and urgent," McCain responded: "I think it's serious.... It's a serious situation, but there's a lot of things we need to do. We have a lot of work to do and I'm afraid it's a very hard struggle, particularly given the situation on the Iraq/Pakistan border."
But as ABC's Rick Klein noted: "Iraq and Pakistan do not share a border. Afghanistan and Pakistan do."

He choked on the Iraq Pakistan statement.

But....On January 1, 1993 the country Czechoslovakia peacefully split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

Vote Obama.

Get Informed wrote:

HEY EVERYONE. David's at it again. Copying and Pasting this garbage on every forum. His goal tonight is to post this crap on every forum by the time his mother knocks on his door and tells him it's time to get off his computer!
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His post was half right.

You could be to someday if you start checking your facts rather than rehashing someone elses editorial commentary.

Get McCain and you get more of the same as what we have now. McCain is not any different. Can't trust his ADS and words for the present which are designed to trick you. McCain is for Multi-national corporations and against average working Americans. It is for the greedy corporate interests that McCain wants to continue the War in Iraq.

Phil Gramm was a Democrat before he later became a Republican...and it showed.. Like most Dems, he always worked for the gov.. never had a real job in the private sector.. sort of like the "Community Organizer", Barack Hussein Obama, and most of the prominent Democrats, including Kennedy, Pelosi & B.Clinton, etc.
Look closer.. it's the Democrats in DC who are, by far, the biggest "Whiners" and gov parasites, as well as the "no drill" Roadblocks to American prosperity & better national security, etc.

Dajokerman wrote:

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What I am getting at is that Republicans don't understand what Americans go through every day. They are out of touch and have been from the start. They harp about how they are the party of values but they value nothing unless it can be sold.
And no, I don't want goverment to take care of me, I was it to represent me for once instead of some suit in an office on the top floor of some building that doesn't care who the hell they have to step on to get their money.
And what are you talking about? There is no free market.

Of course there is. That's what makes America so successful.

The bottom line is the Government thinks they have an unlimited budget - spend more, tax more and no control on spending, for what ever reason they are crippling the rest of us.
The normal REAL population understand that when we over spend our own personal budgets we can't go to our employer and tell them give me more money.

When the government does it - do they cut spending NO they call it TAX INCREASE

AEC wrote:

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Of course there is. That's what makes America so successful.
The bottom line is the Government thinks they have an unlimited budget - spend more, tax more and no control on spending, for what ever reason they are crippling the rest of us.
The normal REAL population understand that when we over spend our own personal budgets we can't go to our employer and tell them give me more money.
When the government does it - do they cut spending NO they call it TAX INCREASE

This Administration added a new twist to the technique by increasing spending while cutting taxes. That doesn't work either.

You have NO facts to back up any of the BS you listed below

- McCain voted with the Democrats more than any Rep. Senator. McCain voted with his party only 63% of the time. He's not another Bush and his voting record shows it.

- You post BS comments about McCain is for Multi National corporation and agains the middle call. REALLY! So you'd call cutting Washington spending, calling for the end of earmark spending and not raising taxes agains the middle class! You can't even define "middle class"!

- McCain supported the surge in Iraq, which my friend was a way to win the war and come home! So again more BS opinions which are not factual.

Take a look at the companies that donate to the Obama campaign and you may want to shut up about corporations supporting candidates. Obama has plenty of corporations supporting him.

Why don't you get off the party BS and do some factual research!

tim wrote:

Get McCain and you get more of the same as what we have now. McCain is not any different. Can't trust his ADS and words for the present which are designed to trick you. McCain is for Multi-national corporations and against average working Americans. It is for the greedy corporate interests that McCain wants to continue the War in Iraq.

You could someday learn the context of the posts before you spout off!

left of Limbaugh wrote:

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His post was half right.
You could be to someday if you start checking your facts rather than rehashing someone elses editorial commentary.

Buzz Flederjon wrote:

Quit whining, people!
Enjoy the endless wars, permanent recession, job losses, inflation, high gas costs, corruption, and gay airport incidents that the Bush/McCain Republican Party has brought you!

Buzz u got my vote...