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John McCain

Jul 11, 2008

A Citizen, but 'Natural Born'? McCain's Eligibility to Be President Is Disputed by Professor

McCain not natural-born citizen under 14th Amendment

In the most detailed examination yet of Senator John McCain 's eligibility to be president, a law professor at the University of Arizona has concluded that neither Mr.

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Eleanor

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Blind Justice is the theory that law should be viewed objectively. It is the idea behind the United States Supreme Court motto “ Equal Justice Under Law". EXCEPT in this case they'll just FUDGE the law a little for their own purpose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_justice_%2...
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This is a clever misdirection by the Marxists. Until now, no one has ever questioned McCain's citizenship, certainly not the Naval Academy. Now, while we are bending over backwards to allow illegals to enter and vote the Dems are obsessed. Why? Because there is good reason to believe Obama is not a natural born citizen.

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Later for him wrote:
This is a clever misdirection by the Marxists. Until now, no one has ever questioned McCain's citizenship, certainly not the Naval Academy. Now, while we are bending over backwards to allow illegals to enter and vote the Dems are obsessed. Why? Because there is good reason to believe Obama is not a natural born citizen.
Once again, you lying neo-conservatives try to twist the truth, and misdirect:

No one has questioned McCain's citizenship.

The point is McCain was born outside of the USA, in Panama, before Panama was 'legislated' to be part of the USA in terms of citizenship.

Under the consitution, which you view as flexible when goals of the neo-conservative political superstition is concerned, McCain is not NATIVE BORN. That is, he may not take the Oath of Presidency.

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Neither is Obamby!

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this is just as lame as iria's posting an op-ed from iowa states campus newspaper blasting mccain.

but, then again, mr_bill...you are EVERY bit as lame as iria.

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Messing with the American Military and their dependents born overseas will be a tiger's tail they don't want to hold.
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just had lunch wrote:
this is just as lame as iria's posting an op-ed from iowa states campus newspaper blasting mccain.
but, then again, mr_bill...you are EVERY bit as lame as iria.
Nice sidestep.

Is McCain a native born American?
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I do not understand how so many legislatures take the population they have been set a charge to protect. As such naive and illiterate group of citizens believing they do not grasp the letter of the laws purpose and intent.

The judiciary tip toes with the matter rather than clearly say what the wording in writ indicate. There can not be any first rate American English student who cannot define the words indicative of "out of the limits", not simply "limits and jurisdiction" of, as the debaters presents the matter.

Essentially it introduced an action of law for general use, that would allow its citizens who were away on soils not immediately US controlled to retain for their children the rights of belonging. That legitimized arguments and released the travel restrictions, that are encased within the territorial docum of countries and nations.

Regardless of that idiosyncrasy and travesty attributed to the founding fathers. The words "out of the limits and jurisdiction" would indicate the affirmation in constitutional text as being. Where the US hold no legitimate rights to, other than those of one of its citizen, away from their natural birth. Further having not relinquished their citizenship.

Contrary to what is inferenced within the debates, it does not mean to limit the individuals rights to citizenship. Due to the place of birth being not a territorial hold of the US.

If a matter should be debated I do so simply from photo than fact from writ. It is whether John’s father was an enlisted man or simply touring with his grandfather in the Canal Zone. The matter is the moore unclear as to whether his mother was a citizen.

In that matter I have an opposition to today’s judicial proceedings, but it’s a mute matter presently although critical.
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good maybe he cant run.he stores lies in his huge cheek pockets.

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Messing with the American Military and their dependents born overseas will be a tiger's tail they don't want to hold.
Well after the 2000 election fiasco where they{democrats} tried to keep out the military vote,nothing surprises me,after all this a party who relies heavily on illegal aliens,dead people and people not smart enough to fill out a voting ballot.
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OWWW wrote:
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Nice sidestep.
Is McCain a native born American?
Yes. His parents were American-born citizens or naturalized citizens, so it doesn't matter what land HE was born on: it matters if his PARENTS were citizens at the time. Worse case scenario: he has dual-citizenship.

I'm all for getting on McSame's case for other things, but this is a case of misdirection by the Democrats on this board and elsewhere.

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Sadly the Professor screwed his own argument. At the time of Mr. McCain’s birth, the relevant law granted citizenship to any child born to an American parent “out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States.” But McCain was born within the Jurisdiction of the United States. In two ways. Panama was an Official Jurisdiction of the US. Second, his father, and by extension his mother and eventually he, were there on Official orders of the US Government. US Citizen.

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OWWW wrote:
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Nice sidestep.
Is McCain a native born American?
yes he is...
i'd like to see obama's birth certificate...
is HE a native born american?
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Christopher wrote:
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Yes. His parents were American-born citizens or naturalized citizens, so it doesn't matter what land HE was born on: it matters if his PARENTS were citizens at the time. Worse case scenario: he has dual-citizenship.
I'm all for getting on McSame's case for other things, but this is a case of misdirection by the Democrats on this board and elsewhere.
I'm terribly sorry to tell you, natural born means born within the borders of the United States. There was a case of Franklin & Elenor Roosevelt's eldest child being born in Canada. They called a Supreme Court justice to get a ruling on that senerio. The justice's opinion was he wasn't a natural born citizen. That child never ran for the Presidency.
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OWWW wrote:
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Nice sidestep.
Is McCain a native born American?
Without a shawdow of a doubt.
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Chicago Born wrote:
<quoted text>I'm terribly sorry to tell you, natural born means born within the borders of the United States. There was a case of Franklin & Elenor Roosevelt's eldest child being born in Canada. They called a Supreme Court justice to get a ruling on that senerio. The justice's opinion was he wasn't a natural born citizen. That child never ran for the Presidency.
And the Supreme Court justice was wrong. A child born to American parents, even outside of the country, is a 'natural-born' citizen. It wasn't, and isn't, supposed to lay on the PHYSICAL location of the parents, but on the fact as to whether the parents in question were LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS or permanent residents before the child's birth.

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court justice was wrong in this case, and if someone is stupid enough to take this to court, we are going to see the Supreme Court rule that McCain or even Obama are natural-born citizens.

Personally, I am all for getting rid of the 'natural-born' citizen thing and putting into place a requirement that you be a citizen of the United States for at least 20 years before you can run for the Presidency, 10 for the Senate, and 5 for the House of Represenatives, and I am a 'natural-born' citizen, born in Maryland.

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McCain should get the maximum prison sentence allowed by law for illegally entering our country, then deported to his native country and put on the terrorist watch list in case he tries to re-enter the country illegally once again. There is no reason one illegal should be treated any better than another. His assets and bank accounts should be immediately frozen and his property confiscated and turned over to the IRS to pay back the welfare system for the free medical treatment he has received at taxpayer expense and all other assets should be seized under the RICO act for organized crime. Any and all accomplices should be prosecuted for harboring a fugitive and illegal alien to the fullest extent of the law and also banned from the country. He should be summarily striped of any awards or medals given while he was fraudulently serving in the military under false pretenses and required to reimburse the Dept. of Defense for the 5 aircraft he wantonly and negligently destroyed while falsely serving in the Navy. Any funds left should be sent to Vietnam to pay for him room and board while lying around smoking cigarettes and committing treason.
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Let us see Obama's birth certificate; to see if he's truely said what he was....The Democrats and their stupid press were tricked by the GOP's game to supported Obama instead of Hillary; A sure winner ticket for McCain.
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As a military person, I would not trust a commander in chief with a muslim last name and a "hussien" middle name. He's an anti-christ. American people please wake up. Don't fall for his trick.

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GI Joe wrote:
As a military person, I would not trust a commander in chief with a muslim last name and a "hussien" middle name. He's an anti-christ. American people please wake up. Don't fall for his trick.
Only the ones afflicted with the "dumbass" disease will.
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