Who still takes global warming seriously?

gcaveman1 wrote:

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Seriously! She'd probably try to stick it up his ass!

How crude, just because that is where your head is stuck dosn't mean the poor puppy is the same.

Actually I would bring that dog over to my house so that it could play with the other dogs. After all, dogs like to socialize.

gcaveman1 wrote:

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Well, you kept buggin 'em, wantin' to know....

Sorry, I can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. I sure people like you are the ones who have trouble.

gcaveman1 wrote:

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Funny that you are using the very same groups (like NASA and GISS) that you advised us a little while back couldn't be trusted.
Funny you believe what they say about the past but not what they say now.
Funny that the climate scientists say if you really want to understand what is happening now you have to look to the past and you consistently ignore what they say is happening now.
You funny.

You mean use sources you have used in the past as a clue bat to beat the facts into you with.

Funny also how you claim how I mus be ignoring what is appenin now when it is all the discussion on this forum. Of course what you really mean is I keep disproving wat you want everyone to believe. Disproving the fiction with facts instead of falling for your fantasy.

akpilot wrote:

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While I don't disagree that the 17th Amendment was one of our worst, it doesn't change the fact that we are a republic, nor does it make us a Democracy.
Oh, and BTW, the 17th Amendment changed Article I Sec 3, not Article IV.

Of course we are not a pure democracy, we are a democratic republic. A form of democracy never the less.

DumBozo wrote:

Of course we are not a pure democracy, we are a democratic republic.

It's good to see you've almost backed down, at last.

DumBozo wrote:

A form of democracy never the less.

Nevertheless, grandpaw.

Earthling-1 wrote:

<quoted text>It's good to see you've almost backed down, at last.<quoted text>Nevertheless, grandpaw.

I said the same thing earlier. Wake up you old dropout.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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I said the same thing earlier. Wake up you old dropout.

Yep, dirtie appears to have always lived under kings and queens.

He has no concept of what's being discussed here. Yet he jumps in as usual.

Earthling-1 wrote:

<quoted text>It's good to see you've almost backed down, at last.<quoted text> [name calling].

Almost at last? LOL.

The sun rises from the EAST.

Greenhouse gases cause thermal pollution.

tina anne wrote:

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I never claimed to do the animation. On the other hand did you notice I had links to back up my claims while your posts are normally lacking in anything resembling proof. Notice that the south pole was once open water.
You should take a few days off and think about what you are saying. take just as long when writing. Trees require certain things to survive. Climate warm enough that has a growing season at least part of the year. Warm enough that water can exist in a liquid form for several months.
As for what I wrote, the average teacher of english would say what I wrote were sentences. Of course the real issue isn't grammar, sentence structure, or anything else. It is the fact that plant life existed on that continent. That Antartica was warm enough to have trees.

You're the one with the reality problem.

Your link, especially the animation, dispute your claim about the
location of Antarctica over the past 300 million years.

While you're sitting there babbling about how right you are, anyone else can go to those sites and read that you are wrong! Or start the animation and see that you are wrong.

Ditto for the green around the edge statement I made. I never said trees didn't grow there 15 mya. But it wasn't Palm Beach. And they found no evidence of trees in the interior.

I think you're like that dishonest appliance repairman that was filmed by 20/20 a few years back, charging for work he didn't do and parts he didn't replace. Even when he was shown the tape of himself conducting his nefarious activities, he denied it.

IOW, you're a liar.

gcaveman1 wrote:

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Even when he was shown the tape of himself conducting his nefarious activities, he denied it.

Hey. It worked for the Bush Administration. Of course, for them it was more about a very short term memory.

Sorry. Fourteen billion missing? Not sure. Where are my notes. Oh, what was the question?

WMD? Not sure. Where are my notes. I don't remember saying that.

Of course we didn't do that. Or if we did, we did it for all the right reasons. It must have been my butler did it. You cannot expect me to remember anything past lunch this morning can you?

June 2012 was not only the planet's fourth warmest June since record-keeping began in 1880, but also the 36th consecutive June and the 328th month in a row that global temperatures have risen above the 20th century average, reported the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Monday in the agency’s monthly State of the Climate report.

The last time any month came in under that 20th century average, in other words, was early in the second Reagan administration — and the last time any June was below average, Gerald Ford was president.

-Climate Central

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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Of course we are not a pure democracy, we are a democratic republic. A form of democracy never the less.

No, we are not a democracy, we are a Republic, there is a difference and I suggest you learn it.

The founders despised Democracy, they avoided it and thought the only possible result of a democracy was failure.

"“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”- Thomas Jefferson

"Hence it is that democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths... A republic, by which I mean a government in which a scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect and promises the cure for which we are seeking."- James Madison Federalist #10

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" Franklin, Benjamin

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”- John Adams

Now go educate yourself.

gcaveman1 wrote:

June 2012 was not only the planet's fourth warmest June since record-keeping began in 1880, but also the 36th consecutive June and the 328th month in a row that global temperatures have risen above the 20th century average, reported the National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Monday in the agency’s monthly State of the Climate report.
The last time any month came in under that 20th century average, in other words, was early in the second Reagan administration — and the last time any June was below average, Gerald Ford was president.
-Climate Central

So what?
You are looking at one minute in an hour.
Please explain the MWP and other warm periods and ice ages over the past 5000 years, and how man's belching of CO2 caused them.
Do you really think that the sun has consistent and uniform output?

DumBozo wrote:

I said the same thing earlier. Wake up you old dropout.

I'm wide awake and I know you said the same thing earlier, but nevertheless, you must stop repeating yourself, grandpaw.

akpilot wrote:

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No, we are not a democracy, we are a Republic, there is a difference and I suggest you learn it.
The founders despised Democracy, they avoided it and thought the only possible result of a democracy was failure.
"“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”- Thomas Jefferson
"Hence it is that democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and in general have been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths... A republic, by which I mean a government in which a scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect and promises the cure for which we are seeking."- James Madison Federalist #10
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" Franklin, Benjamin
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”- John Adams
Now go educate yourself.

In contemporary usage, the term democracy refers to a government chosen by the people, whether it is direct or representative.

Weatherman wrote:

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So what?
You are looking at one minute in an hour.
Please explain the MWP and other warm periods and ice ages over the past 5000 years, and how man's belching of CO2 caused them.
Do you really think that the sun has consistent and uniform output?

Explain again?

You're demonstrating how unimaginative you are and how you apparently don't have very good research skills.

The Sun's output has been down lately. I believe it's on the way back up now, so, yes, that's going to have a effect.

Huge glaciers between Pakistan and China GROWING – not melting

http://iceagenow.info/2012/07/huge-glaciers-p...

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Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years

http://iceagenow.info/2012/07/alaskan-glacier...

DumBozo wrote:

In contemporary usage, the term democracy refers to a government chosen by the people, whether it is direct or representative.

What's wrong with you people, don't you know how to use a search engine?
Definition of DEMOCRACY
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a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
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: a political unit that has a democratic government
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capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States <from emancipation Republicanism to New Deal Democracy — C. M. Roberts>
4
: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
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: the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dem...

Patriot wrote:

Huge glaciers between Pakistan and China GROWING – not melting
http://iceagenow.info/2012/07/huge-glaciers-p...
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Alaskan Glaciers Grow for First Time in 250 years
http://iceagenow.info/2012/07/alaskan-glacier...

Well done for trying to keep on topic.

PRETTY GOOD MELT GOING ON NOW IN SOUTHWEST GREENLAND. Radar shows albedo has been reduced from standing water on the surface. Following are news reports from the area.

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What has happened in detail over the inland ice, which caused this incident, is not yet known, but the fierce heat has certainly been an important player. And unfortunately it looks like the weather will not come to the Greenlanders’ rescue, as the air temperatures over the ice sheet are expected to remain warmer than normal at least the next 7-10 days, writes Greenland meteorological Jesper Eriksen at dmi.dk.

However, it’s not only hot on the icecap at Kangerlussuaq. Deep in the ice, there are also plus degrees:

In Greenland, it has been very hot over the inland ice in comparison to normal conditions. On July 11th at 15 UTC the recorded temperature at the Summit Camp weather station, which is located at the ice cap’s highest altitude (3200 metres), was 2.2 degrees Celsius. That is quite high for this height, particularly in light of the fact that ice has a relatively high albedo.

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Just 2.2 °C doesn’t sound like much (although it looks to be a new record for July), until one realises that we are talking Summit Camp here. At an altitude of 3200 metres. In the middle of the Greenland ice sheet. Nothing but ice.

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3.5 million liters of water pressed through the narrow river every second. It’s almost a doubling of previous records. It’s no wonder that a 20 ton wheel loader was torn away from the bridge in Kangerlussuaq like a toy.