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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80476 May 23, 2012
Old Goat wrote:
<quoted text> nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
You can see they were speaking of local, state and federal jurisdiction, not the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, this does not come until they are citizens.
Infantile.

Got a clue what "any person" means?

According to BirfoonBoy, the Fourteenth Amendment's mandate for equal protection is beyond the jurisdiction of the Constitution. Schizophrenic. The mandate places equal protection under the States clearly under the purview of the Constitution. Please take your meds.

See also the Fifth Amendment.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Faced with the flat out contradiction in his muddled thinking, BirfoonBoy declares, "something is wrong."
Finally he got something right.
Now how could the Congress, which included many of the FRAMERS of the Constitution be so "wrong"?
How could they possibly think an alien could, indeed, must reside in the US under US jurisdiction precedent to citizenship?
Evidently something is wrong. Reality contradicts BirfoonBoy.
"That any Alien being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof ...." Naturalization Act of 1790.[Emphasis added.]
C'mon moron, please tell me how you just kicked my ass.

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#80477 May 23, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell us then how YOU learned that someone in the USSC leaked to the white house. That should be easy. Only the Justices and a select few, very select few, would know about their leanings in this case. In an interview, oh, 30+ years ago, Justice Doulass raconted how before any major vote, and this is a major one, each justice as I said yesterdy kept their cards pretty close to their chests. Out with it , now, seeing as NO media, lib or cons reported it, how you got to know this. Don't try to BS yourself out of this one please. You made it up, didn't you? You're not dealing solely with birthers and tea cup partyer here now Rogue. Just fess up, say you made it up, I'll drop it.
First of all, the day after the hearing they take a vote. At that point they know whether or not the will rule in favor or against the law! They take sides and each side appoints either an opinion or the dissenting opinion. They then write their opinions in draft form and circulate them among themselves. They then release their findings.
But they KNEW the day after the hearings whether or not they would rule it was either Constitutional or not!!! And Libtards can't help but leak things.
Oh, SPC Manning, that leaked those documents to Wikileaks, is a Libtard.
Oh, the Lame Stream Media would never report anything derogatory against Obama especially in an election year. But wasn't it funny that starting around April 2nd, the internet lite up like the Forth of July!
Your Bunny Has a Good Mandate: Why do we think the Supreme Court justices’ tentative conference vote on the fate of Obamacare–the one they take as soon as tomorrow, before they write the opinion–won’t leak? Too many DC people have a stake in the outcome, and Supreme Court clerks do go to dinner parties. All they have to do is raise an eyebrow.… I know the Court doesn’t leak often. But there’s always a first time.…

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/28/will-obamac...

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#80478 May 23, 2012
Why can't Libtards use "normal" logic? They are totally incapable of coming to any rational conclusion.
During the first six year of the Bush-43 administration the Libtards railed about the budget being over about $500M per year but as soon as San Fran Nan Pelosi took over, hush my mouth, not a peep from the loony-toony-lefties.
Yep, in the first two years that the Dems controlled Congress they averaged $1T over budget. For you Libtards $1T is twice $500B! And then in the first two years of Obama they averaged $1.5B over budget.
But Bush was evil for doing it but Obama was enlightened !!!
I can't tell you how many letters I wrote to Bush about the budget and I called about once a month to the WH comment line. But you Libtards will not say one bad thin about your Messiah!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80479 May 23, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Poor Birfoons ...(of course I'm sure that this is a forgery too ... now Mr. Bennett is in on it!)
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verific...
Hee hee hee.

"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

Evidently the birfoons believe that the White House forged a LFBC that exactly matches the original record.

Way to funny -- but very sad.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80480 May 23, 2012
commenter2001 wrote:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
AZ SOS got his verification of President Obama's birth certificate.
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verific...
"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

But he didn't say that he looked at the file with both eyes!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#80481 May 23, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You write : " Learn to Read never answers questions". Hypocrite. Flaming hypocrite. Where's my proper answer on BenGurion, Meir, Perez, those "communists"? And those Vietnam war armaments? You got your nerve commenting on others supposedly not giving answers.
You are a liar and everyone know it. I HAVE commented about all of those points. And NO F-14 flew over SEA!!! Just because they were on an aircraft carrier in the area does not mean they participated in the war efforts.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80482 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental? We know that al-Awalaki was born in Los Cruises, NM and that he too got a foreign student scholarship! And we also know what classes he took and what grades he took! Don't you think it is funny that we know more about a, born in America, al Qaeda terrorist than we do our own president?
Is he ashamed of his academic record? Or is he hiding something? Like no one knew him?!? Oh I know, he had a girl friend named Julie!!!
Birfoon is ASSUMING again: "How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?"

BTW, Birfoon, Obama was a US citizen who graduated from a US high school, unlike al-Awalaki, who lived in Yemen for the eleven years and graduated from foreign school before going to a US college.

Get real.

Birfoon: "Don't you think it is funny that we know more about a, born in America, al Qaeda terrorist than we do our own president?"

Really sad. We know he was born in Hawaii, who is mother and father were, what schools he attended, what offices he held, what honors he received.

Grow up!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Answered several times.
Neither.
Your insipid question assumes he applied as a foreign student.
Sorry Birfoon, assumption is not fact.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#80483 May 23, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Answered several times.
Neither.
Your insipid question assumes he applied as a foreign student.
Sorry Birfoon, assumption is not fact.
<quoted text>
Facts are not permitted in Birfistan (as they are not specifically permitted under the Constitution, they have been BANNED).

Assumptions are accepted, so long as they bear no resepmblence to "educated guesses".

Hate driven fantasies are welcomed with open arms.

Since: May 10

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#80484 May 23, 2012
Post 80133
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
You Libtards think that just because someone can use flowerly speech, he must be great. A socialist is still a socialist! To me, I would rather have a Conservative who stutters that one who can not think beyond he tongue.
You do know the difference between a Classic Liberal and a Modern Liberal, don't you? A Classical Liberals looks at all the evidence, weighs it and then makes a decision. A modern Liberal, only looks at "approved" material, and then parrots.
Sad, very sad.
<quoted text>
I sound like Goering? I don't want to punish people for exercising their right of free speech like you Libtards do.
Goering reported to GWB?
When the government takes over business, the government becomes Communistic!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I was talking about your gut reaction to culture and the well-written word, not punishing.
So, let me get this straight. Your reasoning is as follows : You wrote "And so Ben Gurion and Golda Meir were Socialists. The majority of Jews in America are Socialists!!!
Now this is Communism!!! ".
Alll right, so may I deduct that most Jews in America are socialists, Ben Gurion and Gold Meir are socialists, and therefore all Jews in America and those two famous Israelis are...Communists.
PS: Are all the Jews who, according to you, who will not vote for Obama, still Communists? And, if ever Israel re-elects a socialist government, you will no longer back that country against its Arab neighbours.

Rogue Scholar wrote:
I just love it when you chop up what I wrote. After "Now this is Communism!!!" I wrote, and you cut out:

Now this is Communism!!! When the government takes over business, the government becomes Communistic!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

Now it makes sense, doesn't it?
Oh, I will back Israel over any Muslim country regardless of how far left they lean, in part, because they area a Democracy!!!
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You write : " Learn to Read never answers questions". Hypocrite. Flaming hypocrite. Where's my proper answer on BenGurion, Meir, Perez, those "communists"? And those Vietnam war armaments? You got your nerve commenting on others supposedly not giving answers.
Well, it is obvious that you have a bad case of A.D.D. as I answered the part about " BenGurion, Meir, Perez,". I know it was yesterday and if you can not yesterday, how are you to remember what I wrote a month ago?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80485 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again Wojo, How do we know it is a "certified copy" as no one has been allowed to inspect the document?!? A jpg image on the internet is not worth the electrons it is imaged with!!!
"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-14,3, I verify the following:
1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that
Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii
2. Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II
3. Department of Health File #: 151 61 10641
4. Time of Birth: 7:24 p.m.
5. Name of Hospital: Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital
6. Age of Father: 25
7. Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
8. Age of Mother: 18
9. Birthplace of Mother: Wichita, Kansas
10. Date of Signature of Parent: 8-7-61
11. Date of Signature of Attendant: 8-8-61
12. Date Accepted by Local Registrar: Aug-8 1961
Alvin T. Onaka, Ph. D., State Registrar

Got a clue yet, Rouge?

Since: May 10

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#80486 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental? We know that al-Awalaki was born in Los Cruises, NM and that he too got a foreign student scholarship! And we also know what classes he took and what grades he took! Don't you think it is funny that we know more about a, born in America, al Qaeda terrorist than we do our own president?
Is he ashamed of his academic record? Or is he hiding something? Like no one knew him?!? Oh I know, he had a girl friend named Julie!!!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Birfoon is ASSUMING again: "How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?"
BTW, Birfoon, Obama was a US citizen who graduated from a US high school, unlike al-Awalaki, who lived in Yemen for the eleven years and graduated from foreign school before going to a US college.
Get real.
Birfoon: "Don't you think it is funny that we know more about a, born in America, al Qaeda terrorist than we do our own president?"
Really sad. We know he was born in Hawaii, who is mother and father were, what schools he attended, what offices he held, what honors he received.
Grow up!
<quoted text>
You still have not answered the question, how did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?
Or about his girl friend Julie?

Since: May 10

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#80487 May 23, 2012
It is pretty sad when a guy has to invent girl friends. Or maybe he changed his boy friends into girl friend?

Obama acknowledged that, while Genevieve was his New York girlfriend, the description in his memoir was a “compression” of girlfriends, including one who followed Genevieve when he lived in Chicago.[
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/old-obama-gir...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80488 May 23, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
Poor Birfoons ...(of course I'm sure that this is a forgery too ... now Mr. Bennett is in on it!)
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verific ...
I'm waiting for birfoons to proclaim that Ron Pollard actually forged the verification document.

And if a birfoon forges an identical document that will prove that the original was forged, according to birther logic.

Since: May 10

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#80490 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again Wojo, How do we know it is a "certified copy" as no one has been allowed to inspect the document?!? A jpg image on the internet is not worth the electrons it is imaged with!!!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."
Pursuant to Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-14,3, I verify the following:
1. A birth certificate is on file with the Department of Health indicating that
Barack Hussein Obama, II was born in Honolulu, Hawaii
2. Name of Person: Barack Hussein Obama, II
3. Department of Health File #: 151 61 10641
4. Time of Birth: 7:24 p.m.
5. Name of Hospital: Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital
6. Age of Father: 25
7. Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
8. Age of Mother: 18
9. Birthplace of Mother: Wichita, Kansas
10. Date of Signature of Parent: 8-7-61
11. Date of Signature of Attendant: 8-8-61
12. Date Accepted by Local Registrar: Aug-8 1961
Alvin T. Onaka, Ph. D., State Registrar
Got a clue yet, Rouge?
Hey Chowder Head, I was talking about the copy that was shown on the internet! Sure, the "printed" copies but anyone could have but NO ONE that is an independent document specialist has been allowed to examine the one that the internet copy is based on!!! NO ONE!!!
And ALL of the DOCUMENT experts that have looked at the internet copy have declared it to be fraudulent!!!
Got a clue .... yet, Chowder Head?
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#80491 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, the day after the hearing they take a vote. At that point they know whether or not the will rule in favor or against the law! They take sides and each side appoints either an opinion or the dissenting opinion. They then write their opinions in draft form and circulate them among themselves. They then release their findings.
But they KNEW the day after the hearings whether or not they would rule it was either Constitutional or not!!! And Libtards can't help but leak things.
Oh, SPC Manning, that leaked those documents to Wikileaks, is a Libtard.
Oh, the Lame Stream Media would never report anything derogatory against Obama especially in an election year. But wasn't it funny that starting around April 2nd, the internet lite up like the Forth of July!
Your Bunny Has a Good Mandate: Why do we think the Supreme Court justices’ tentative conference vote on the fate of Obamacare–the one they take as soon as tomorrow, before they write the opinion–won’t leak? Too many DC people have a stake in the outcome, and Supreme Court clerks do go to dinner parties. All they have to do is raise an eyebrow.… I know the Court doesn’t leak often. But there’s always a first time.…
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/28/will-obamac...
Oooookay. Seeing as I don't have that privileged information, I will say I have no idea what the USC decision will be. However, should it confirm obamacare, you'll have a lot of fun explaining a lot of things.

Since: May 10

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#80492 May 23, 2012
Just another sign of the times.

Gallup Poll: Pro-Choice Support Hits All-Time Low
Wednesday, 23 May 2012 11:22 AM
By Henry J. Reske

The number of Americans identifying themselves as pro-choice has hit a record low of 41 percent while those identifying as pro-life now stands at 50 percent, according to a new Gallup poll.

The previous low for the pro-choice label was 42 percent recorded in May 2009, when Gallup also reported 51 percent identifying as pro-life. Gallup has been polling on the question since 1995, when 56 percent said they were pro-choice and 33 percent pro-life. The gap has narrowed over the years to a point where they are relatively close in polls.

Read more on Newsmax.com : Gallup Poll: Pro-Choice Support Hits All-Time Low
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

Read more on Newsmax.com : Gallup Poll: Pro-Choice Support Hits All-Time Low
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#80493 May 23, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?

You still have not answered the question, how did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?
Huh? Answered several times.

There is no evidence that he attended Occidental as a foreign student.

Got Alzheimer's?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Birfoon is ASSUMING again: "How did he get a foreign student scholarship at Occidental?"
BTW, Birfoon, Obama was a US citizen who graduated from a US high school, unlike al-Awalaki, who lived in Yemen for the eleven years and graduated from foreign school before going to a US college.
Get real.
Birfoon: "Don't you think it is funny that we know more about a, born in America, al Qaeda terrorist than we do our own president?"
Really sad. We know he was born in Hawaii, who is mother and father were, what schools he attended, what offices he held, what honors he received.
Grow up!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#80494 May 23, 2012
Oh, I am pro-choice. If you are a Libtard woman you should either choose to abort your baby or give it up for adoption. For a Libtard to raise her baby is a fate worse than death.

Since: May 10

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#80495 May 23, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooookay. Seeing as I don't have that privileged information, I will say I have no idea what the USC decision will be. However, should it confirm obamacare, you'll have a lot of fun explaining a lot of things.
Maybe, but by the way the Libtards are acting, I have little to worry about.
Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#80496 May 23, 2012
So what will the birther fools do now that Hawaii has once again verified Obama's birth cert?

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