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American

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#32
May 12, 2008
 
Scott wrote:
Barack Hussein Obama can just stay the hell out of Michigan AND Florida as far as that goes, He basically discounted us and Florida and now NINE months later he decides to visit??? F'that, he is to scared to let the votes count because he knows Hillary whipped his @$$ here AND in Florida and feared our votes/delegates counting in Hilary's favor BIG TIME!!
Coooooooome on Hilary, stay at it until the very end, never know when the tide could change, Hussein most likely has other skeletons like Wright and others in his closet.
They are saying Hilary will beat him VERY badly come Tuesday and again in Kentucky, that'll certainly help her and show those so-called "Super Delegates" that she has a MUCH better chance running against McCain compared to Hussein Obama.
A LOT can happen between now and November.
I understand your frustration Scott, I would prefer Hillary too. She would by far make a better President but odds are she is not going to be the nominee and we have to live with that. With that said we HAVE GOT TO support Obama if he wins the nomination because this country and the world can not possibly tolerate the devastation another republican in the white house will do. Amercians have got to say enough is enough. We have to somehow take the control away from the people that really control everything and that is big money.. Oil, Insurance, Pharmaceutical companies. They support republicans.. have you ever noticed how only those companies during these past 8 years have made RECORD profits while everyone else is suffering. It's not a coincidence... They have bought the republican controlled government under the Bush administration. Our best chance to change anything is with a Democrat... White/Black/Female who cares... We have to make sure we fire all republicans.
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#33
May 12, 2008
 
Scott,
You are such an idiot. Michigan and Florida broke, the rules and moved the primaries up. Plain and simple. Obama is visiting Michigan now because the primary is wrapping up and he is moving to national campaign. In the NFL, you can't ask for the preseason games to count once you realize you are at risk of missing the playoffs. Hillary was not cheated, she is trying to change the rules in overtime.
Mark

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#34
May 12, 2008
 
American wrote:
If you support a war that is costing billions a day and no plan to end. If you support making the tax cuts for the weathiest 3% of this country to be PERMANENT. If you support continuing the rising cost of health care and oil prices. If you support American jobs going overseas or to Mexico then vote for McCain. I don't care if the next president is green with purple polka dots if that person can undo the mess that 8 years of the republicans handling things.. then what difference does color or gender make? Please look at what another 4 years of a republican controlled white house will do. McCain has no new plans to change anything. One reason I would never vote for McCain is that when he ran against GW Bush.. he railed on him worse than anybody about those tax cuts. Well now that he is the nominee and the big bucks are lining his pockets he is all for making them permanent. He is a coward and now he is siding with the money. He doesn't care about this country any more than any other republican.
Brilliant post. Billions a day? Show me the proof. The war is costing over $36 trillion a year?

Tax cuts for the wealthy, how many poor people own businesses and employ people?

And Osama Obama is going to cut oil and health care costs how? Spell out the details for us. Why isn't he trying to do anything about it as a Senator?

How many times can you people be reminded that it was Slick Willie that signed NAFTA? How is it Bush's fault? If you want it repealed, why haven't the Democrat led Senate and House done this?

Waiting patiently for substantive answers.

And as for another 4 years of GOP led country, I agree, vote Libertarian because the only thing that is worse than the GOP is the Democrats.
MI Independent

Cincinnati, OH

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#35
May 12, 2008
 
For some reason, it is showing my locationa s Cincy, I am from Grand Rapids, MI. Born and raised.
Ritalou

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#36
May 12, 2008
 
Scott wrote:
LOL, I just loooove how that one headline reads...
"Obama plans to woo neglected voters in Florida and Michigan"
F'that, BOTH State's need to give that jackape the cold shoulder and not even show up to any of his BS slinging speeches or attend in huge numbers holding up signs and chanting "Hillary was cheated, we voters were cheated, HILLARY-HILLARY-HILLARY". .. and drown out any non-sense he tries spewing thinking everyone is a sheeple clinging to every word he spews...
Based on this, I would assume that you are a Hillary supporter and therefore, a democrat. But based on the rest of your racist, ignorant, and hateful comments, you fit the characterization of most republicans. Maybe the directives from Rush to cross over for Hillary are stuck in your small mind!
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#38
May 12, 2008
 
I don't belive anything Hillary or obama say about the oil crisis and what they are going to do. They'sve been Senators for awhile and have done nothing. Why are they waiting to become President??? Do something now and you will be a shoe in...
Take a deep breath

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#39
May 12, 2008
 
Kim in gr wrote:
<quoted text>Do you actually live here in Michigan ?
I do. My network is located in ME. Although a lot of the comments here make me ashamed to admit it. Not very open minded.
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#40
May 12, 2008
 
Mark wrote:
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Brilliant post. Billions a day? Show me the proof. The war is costing over $36 trillion a year?
Tax cuts for the wealthy, how many poor people own businesses and employ people?
And Osama Obama is going to cut oil and health care costs how? Spell out the details for us. Why isn't he trying to do anything about it as a Senator?
How many times can you people be reminded that it was Slick Willie that signed NAFTA? How is it Bush's fault? If you want it repealed, why haven't the Democrat led Senate and House done this?
Waiting patiently for substantive answers.
And as for another 4 years of GOP led country, I agree, vote Libertarian because the only thing that is worse than the GOP is the Democrats.
'Brilliant' rebuttal.
Where do you come up with a figure of 36 trillion a year? The poster said billions a day. That would seem to be one or two. Okay, follow the math. One or two billion a day(anymore would be 'a few') times 365. Well, that would be 720 billion a year.Are you doing math like the republicans? Oh, I think you are.......
Unpopular Opinion

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#41
May 12, 2008
 
wtf wrote:
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Someone has to LEAD! Get it? Our current administration has not led..except if you want to consider the pied piper leading all the republicans(rats) in to the river. Please change parties... please
Political views are very subjective. However, to ask that everyone becomes a democrat is one of the most uneducated and illogical comments I've ever heard. This country needs to have a multi-party system. Having multiple parties fuels debate and brings forth discussion necessary to analyze the enactment of laws that have a direct effect on every person in this country. If we were to go to a single-party system, as many incredibly ignorant people may suggest, there would be no debate. Think of some single-party states that have existed in world history: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, North Korea, Maoist China, Castro's Cuba...things have worked out really well for these countries, haven't they?

My point is as follows: A single-party system would destroy this country. To pressure everyone to become a democrat because you oppose the views of the republican party defies all standards of common sense and intelligence. If you want to see some real change in Washington this year then you should vote out your incumbents regardless of their political affiliation. A new president is not going to be able to change Washington. A new congress, however, would. We need to send a message that there is no job security in Washington.
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#42
May 12, 2008
 
wtf wrote:
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....with those big lips of his........ what is your deal? Afraid someone of color is smarter than you? My dog is black and smarter than you!!
Ignore Scott...he is an A$$ looking for attention! and doesn't really have anythong bright to say!
Take a deep breath

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#43
May 12, 2008
 
MI Independent wrote:
For some reason, it is showing my locationa s Cincy, I am from Grand Rapids, MI. Born and raised.
Your server must be located in Cincinnati. I'm also in MI, but showing Maine.
wtf

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#44
May 12, 2008
 
Unpopular Opinion wrote:
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Political views are very subjective. However, to ask that everyone becomes a democrat is one of the most uneducated and illogical comments I've ever heard. This country needs to have a multi-party system. Having multiple parties fuels debate and brings forth discussion necessary to analyze the enactment of laws that have a direct effect on every person in this country. If we were to go to a single-party system, as many incredibly ignorant people may suggest, there would be no debate. Think of some single-party states that have existed in world history: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, North Korea, Maoist China, Castro's Cuba...things have worked out really well for these countries, haven't they?
My point is as follows: A single-party system would destroy this country. To pressure everyone to become a democrat because you oppose the views of the republican party defies all standards of common sense and intelligence. If you want to see some real change in Washington this year then you should vote out your incumbents regardless of their political affiliation. A new president is not going to be able to change Washington. A new congress, however, would. We need to send a message that there is no job security in Washington.
As an 'educated' poster, please reread the first post. The guy was a DEMOCRAT wanting to change parties and with his perceptions, he sounds more like a Republican anyway.DUH
MI Independent

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#46
May 12, 2008
 
Unpopular Opinion brings up some interesting points, however, their examples of single party systems are all communist countries. The US would benefit from a no party system. Skip the primaries and go right to a national campaign. It's be nice if all candidates could share one stage and debate so we voters can get a real sense of who we are voting for. The democratic primary is the closest we have come to seeing the golves come off for the entire campaign.

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#47
May 12, 2008
 
good....finally we can hear what the man has to say.
no thanks to our democratic party here in this state.

also getting tired of these internet cut-and-paste coyotes that still believe obama ignored michigan voters when actually it was against national party rules to get on the ballot.

seems like doughboy (Rush) has more influence on simple minds than we thought.
Mark

Wyoming, MI

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#48
May 12, 2008
 
wtf wrote:
<quoted text>'Brilliant' rebuttal.
Where do you come up with a figure of 36 trillion a year? The poster said billions a day. That would seem to be one or two. Okay, follow the math. One or two billion a day(anymore would be 'a few') times 365. Well, that would be 720 billion a year.Are you doing math like the republicans? Oh, I think you are.......
Yes, I made a mistake, assuming billions is only 2, which it would be at the least, because billions is obviously more than one--it's the plural of billion. So it would be at least 720 billion, possibly more. You still are not showing that this is true. And you did not rebut any of the other questions.

Go ahead. Still waiting.
No Way

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#49
May 12, 2008
 
can't wait :)
hoochy koochy

Grand Rapids, MI

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#50
May 12, 2008
 
Some people need to get in touch with reality. No delegates from Michigan or Florida should be seated. The primary dates were moved, they knew the rules and risks, and nonetheless moved the primary dates. YOU BROKE THE RULES AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. Besides, if the delegates were seated, what example does this set for the younger generation: go ahead and break the rules, you'll get your way anyhow!! NO WAY!! Barak Obama has already whipped the royal hind-end of Hillary and she can jolly well go back to wherever she came from immediately. To stay in the race only damages the democratic pary.
hoochy koochy

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#51
May 12, 2008
 
Some people need to get in touch with reality. No delegates from Michigan or Florida should be seated. The primary dates were moved, they knew the rules and risks, and nonetheless moved the primary dates. YOU BROKE THE RULES AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. Besides, if the delegates were seated, what example does this set for the younger generation: go ahead and break the rules, you'll get your way anyhow!! NO WAY!! Barak Obama has already whipped the royal hind-end of Hillary and she can jolly well go back to wherever she came from immediately. To stay in the race only damages the democratic party.
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#52
May 12, 2008
 
Tired of this wrote:
I would never vote for Obama. He is a democrat and he is BLACK!
Are you only worried that for once you will see that some black men can do the same, or better, that some white. After all, it was the acts of a white man who got things to where they are today. And, no, I am not black. When I was a kid, I asked what the word N***er meant, and it was explained in detail. My first thought, and it still remains, is that n****ers come in every race, and if you look at your discription of one, you may understand.
Lois

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#53
May 12, 2008
 
If people paid as much attention to who they vote into Congress as they do the President, we might not be in the mess we are in now. It is Congress(Senate and House) that runs the country. Do you know who your representatives are? When was the last time you contacted one of them with your views on any issue?
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