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hmmmmmm
Newport News, VA
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This is still news and even worth debating??? LOL
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Since: Apr 12
Hunt Valley, MD
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I think therefore I am wrote: <quoted text> Don't need to look at a history book to learn about the Dark Ages, just pick up a daily newspaper anywhere and read about the economy, the leaks coming out of the White House that are subjecting us to potential problems with our safety and for sure problems getting anyone to work with us again, and take a look at the DOJ we have currently and the fact that they are involved in crimes that get our own agents killed and still they cover their ass with no remorse for their stupidity. Take a look at just how divided our country is weither it be political views or race in this country the atmosphere has become practically hostile. Try seeing just how much info you really can get out of or about this "most transparent" administration ever. Please, we don't need to look to history to show us a country in the dark and on it's knees, we're there!!! But our brilliant president tells us today that the private sector is doing just fine, really....what was that unemployment info that came out recently??? HMMMM, somehow that just doesn't look "fine" to the majority of American's, at least not to those millions still unemployed. The only light at the end of this current Dark Age is that November is not too far away. If you were to listen to most of the "conservatives" on this and other boards and Faux News, those unemployed people are just lazy and don't want to work anyway.. So I am not sure what your beef is. I know... The "job creators" need more tax breaks and fewer regulations to get things turned around, right?. The lowest tax rate in 75 years is still too high for them? Maybe they should just stop having to pay taxes at all. Then the rest of us lazy ,greedy stupid people could pick up the slack... And since they won't have any of those nasty environmental and safety laws to follow the workers will be dying off sooner, so there will always be job openings, just like the good old days.... Then we could go back to the glory days of living in company owned housing, 70 hour work weeks, no health benefits, and child labor...
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Since: Apr 12
Hunt Valley, MD
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RT Pipe wrote: Remember in November: Vote for an American who has a strong business background, ROMNEY! If you want a deeper depression then vote for the Marxist Obama. If you want this nation strong and sound then Vote for Mitt Romney! And expect to be canned and sold down the river just like this great "businessman" kows how to do.. Maybe he can put some of our tax money into overseas accounts too, just like him..
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Pamela
Citrus Heights, CA
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Cat74 wrote: We work every day. Everyone in my family works, even the 17 year old. He is in business with a teenager that has a lawn mowing business. You on the other hand likely draw S S, and play bbingo on Friday nite's. You are an old lady. You have never worked a day in your lfe, and the tea party are the ones who all want socialist security and government Medicare. All you got is too attack me saying I am old?? That's all you got low IQ, dumbed down, nonworking, dependent creepy little b!tch? Since you never worked and never paid taxes why don't you get out of political chatboards? You are not a productive member of society and you are not a taxpayer so get your low IQ, idiotic, Fox parroting, dumb ass out of here already.
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Since: Aug 11
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RT Pipe wrote: <quoted text>Get a life. I got a life and I am doing extremely well, you might need to get a life I know what Romney did in Massachusetts as Governor.
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Pamela
Citrus Heights, CA
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No Patience Left wrote: <quoted text>The unions have already filed law suits against San Jose and San Diego. The liberal CA judges and the 9th circuit court of appeals, as usual, very well may overturn the voters. If they don't, Obama will have his Justice Department (A.G. Holder) filing a law suit against the Cities if they try to implement any changes to the current CalPERS/UNION retirement systems. I realize it needs to done, and should be done, it's unsustainable, but you'll have every democrat politician in the CA legislature, plus the judges, plus Obama against reducing any retirement benefits what so ever. Good luck to the Mayors, I hope they make it... I saw that too where the government unions in CA want to stop the taxpayers from being able to vote to cut those huge pensions. You said it exactly right. They are going to do just like they did in WI. The Dems went out there and tried to get a Dem elected judge over a Repub, they tried to get rid of the Repubs in the legislature and then they pulled the recall on Walker, all failed. They have so much at stake here in CA. They get $75,000-$250,000 a year state pensions. The office workers get about $75,000 a year, police and fire get $200-$250,000 a year. House painters get $100,000 a year pensions. So of course they don't want us to be able to vote this stuff down, and they want us to pay them all of that money. It will be a big, big battle, but the bottom line is the state pension promises in CA have over $500 billion in unfunded liabilities. At the same time, in the last ten years about 10 million people moved to CA and about 7 million of them are on welfare. CA is at the point of taxing those on welfare to pay those on the big pensions. The Dems' programs are all bankrupt. In fairness to the government workers, the Dems used them. The Dems made them FUTURE promises, it didn't cost them anything at the time, the Dems got a lot of campaign money from them and their votes. Now the bills are due, the promises can't be kept. Same as the Dems' Social Security and Medicare. The promises are coming due for the baby boomers and they can't be kept either. This is what happens when the Dems promise people all of this money that they did not collect. If everyone is paying 7 percent into programs and then collects a lot more money out, the programs go broke quickly. State workers pay in 7 percent and then collect 90 percent of their salary in pensions for longer than they worked. Same thing with welfare. The Dems give everyone free housing, free money, free food, free medical. Well, then you get more and more uneducated folks who go on welfare and do nothing, you get less taxpayers, less taxes, more expenses. Of course eventually it bankrupts the country.
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Since: Mar 12
Milwaukee
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The election is over Walker won just stop already I'm sick of getting notices on a dead topic.
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Since: Mar 11
Buford, GA
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Just move to Greece aaswipe.
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Pamela
Citrus Heights, CA
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Here those state pensions are paid for by the taxpayers and the unions want to block the taxpayers from being able to vote to cut back the big pensions. FDR was against unions being in government jobs. I said for years that it should be illegal because it is not a union negotiating with a for profit business. It's unions negotiating with politicians who have the power to tax, making deals with unions to fund things via the taxpayers, and the government being not-for-profit, the politicians can promise anything because the government is not a business that has to make a profit in order to keep going. It would be like if the unions went to a corporation and said to give employees $100,000 pensions for 30 years, let the people retire at 50-55. The corporation would go broke from it in a couple of years. But, when it's tax money, they just raise the tax rate and create new taxes. We have several new taxes and tax raises on the ballot here in CA and all of that money will go to the big pensions. And, those big pension promises are why we keep having so many cuts to services. It's totally corrupt.
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No Patience Left
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Kennesaw71 wrote: Just move to Greece aaswipe. Hey, now there's Spain as an option to Greece.
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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”
Since: Dec 08
Brooklyn, New York
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realitycheck wrote: <quoted text>Those 'educators' were beholden to the mobsters running the union. Teachers who needed a union to keep their jobs will hopefully be gone now. Good riddance shtty teachers. Now, maybe the children have a chance to get a decent education. Mobsters running the Union???? Is this a godfather movie? Come on, man..
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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”
Since: Dec 08
Brooklyn, New York
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RT Pipe wrote: <quoted text>Screw the parents of the children? You are a really sick Pfuuck. The parents of the children??? The teachers are getting screwed over pay. The parents should be mad about the school not paying good teachers. Are you serious?
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Since: Oct 08
Alpharetta, GA
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Black Rhino wrote: <quoted text> The parents of the children??? The teachers are getting screwed over pay. The parents should be mad about the school not paying good teachers. Are you serious? tachers are already paid too much....they work 9 months of the year, get off at 3, have 2 weeks for christmas and spring break off, and can't get fired unless they are really bad. They should suck it up and accept less money for doing below average work. How do you like that, Sean?
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Since: Feb 07
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The WI recall failure, in my opinion is the message that the promotion of BHO in '08 by Nancy/Reid and the O network was a mistake. The 'Horse' is in the courtyard, and he believes a concept of Mutually Assured Destruction. The Democrat Party like the Labor Unions don't see themselves as pawns on his board, but they are.
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Churmudgeon
Mountain Home, AR
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Pamela wrote: <quoted text>I saw that too where the government unions in CA want to stop the taxpayers from being able to vote to cut those huge pensions. You said it exactly right. They are going to do just like they did in WI. The Dems went out there and tried to get a Dem elected judge over a Repub, they tried to get rid of the Repubs in the legislature and then they pulled the recall on Walker, all failed. They have so much at stake here in CA. They get $75,000-$250,000 a year state pensions. The office workers get about $75,000 a year, police and fire get $200-$250,000 a year. House painters get $100,000 a year pensions. So of course they don't want us to be able to vote this stuff down, and they want us to pay them all of that money. It will be a big, big battle, but the bottom line is the state pension promises in CA have over $500 billion in unfunded liabilities. At the same time, in the last ten years about 10 million people moved to CA and about 7 million of them are on welfare. CA is at the point of taxing those on welfare to pay those on the big pensions. The Dems' programs are all bankrupt. In fairness to the government workers, the Dems used them. The Dems made them FUTURE promises, it didn't cost them anything at the time, the Dems got a lot of campaign money from them and their votes. Now the bills are due, the promises can't be kept. Same as the Dems' Social Security and Medicare. The promises are coming due for the baby boomers and they can't be kept either. This is what happens when the Dems promise people all of this money that they did not collect. If everyone is paying 7 percent into programs and then collects a lot more money out, the programs go broke quickly. State workers pay in 7 percent and then collect 90 percent of their salary in pensions for longer than they worked. Same thing with welfare. The Dems give everyone free housing, free money, free food, free medical. Well, then you get more and more uneducated folks who go on welfare and do nothing, you get less taxpayers, less taxes, more expenses. Of course eventually it bankrupts the country. Good Post you have nailed the problem and the cause. The solution? We all know that the social security for the first time in history ran in the red. In 2011 the social security paid out more than it took in. Nobody has explained why Obama reduced the social security witholding tax from 7 1/2% to 4%?
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Since: Aug 11
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Kennesaw71 wrote: Just move to Greece aaswipe. exactly
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“Bullsh*% Detector Enabled”
Since: Dec 08
Brooklyn, New York
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inbred Genius wrote: <quoted text> tachers are already paid too much....they work 9 months of the year, get off at 3, have 2 weeks for christmas and spring break off, and can't get fired unless they are really bad. They should suck it up and accept less money for doing below average work. How do you like that, Sean? Paid too much? You can put a price on the future of a childrens education by not paying your teachers a deserved salary for educating future generations? I don't know what kind of schooling you had, but bad teachers add to the problem of America's youth. Scott wants to cripple the means of getting good teachers. Good luck with that.
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Cat74
Elgin, IL
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The liberals could have fooled the people for another generation if they had not over reached. They made up a phony American, lied about him, and ran him for President. They played on the white guilt thing (that will never work again) and they got him elected. They forgot to ask if he could walk, and chew gum at the same time. Now all of them look as stupid as he does, and they have to help try to get him re elected. Won't work this time. This is so funny, because they never saw the train that ran over them.
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Pamela
Citrus Heights, CA
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Churmudgeon wrote: <quoted text> Good Post you have nailed the problem and the cause. The solution? We all know that the social security for the first time in history ran in the red. In 2011 the social security paid out more than it took in. Nobody has explained why Obama reduced the social security witholding tax from 7 1/2% to 4%? I think they will end up "means testing" SS. So anyone who has other income retired will get less money and only poor old people will get full SS payments. I think they will end up making Medicare into vouchers for everyone, not just those under 55. That would wipe out the debt in those two programs. That means people will get like a 12K voucher to buy health insurance and they will have to chip in like $6K a year themselves. Paul Ryan even wants to means test the voucher so that if people have money they would have to pay even more than the $6K per year for their health insurance. That's the plan. As far as that cut to paying into SS, the problem is half of workers do not pay the federal income tax as their wages are below 50K. So when the politicians wanted to give workers a tax cut, what can they cut? All they pay into is SS and Medicare, so they cut back how much they pay into SS. There was no other tax they could reduce on workers so they reduced the SS payments.
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Pamela
Citrus Heights, CA
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Cat74 wrote: The liberals could have fooled the people for another generation if they had not over reached. They made up a phony American, lied about him, and ran him for President. They played on the white guilt thing (that will never work again) and they got him elected. They forgot to ask if he could walk, and chew gum at the same time. Now all of them look as stupid as he does, and they have to help try to get him re elected. Won't work this time. This is so funny, because they never saw the train that ran over them. Get a job for once in your life. Pay taxes for once in your life. And don't expect your big SS check and Medicare when you did not work. The Cato Institute is trying to end the payments to women who did not work and did not pay into SS and Medicare, so when the cuts come down, you will be getting cut out of SS and Medicare since you never worked. You will have to give up your welfare lady.
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