Ron Paul Admits He Will Not Be President

Gawd did he really think he had a chance? lol

Pauls crowd ran faster than a rabbit to romney!

Richies Cool Man Diary wrote:

Pauls crowd ran faster than a rabbit to romney!

Ron Paul Supporters will never vote for Romney

Slop hole Ed wrote:

<quoted text>Ron Paul Supporters will never vote for Romney

Oh sure....they'll vote for obama the socialist pig, instead.

omfg wrote:

<quoted text> Oh sure....they'll vote for obama the socialist pig, instead.

Nope they know when you choose the lesser of two evils....your choice is still evil.

I certainly have no problem voting for a third party because after all it is the big two parties that are responsible for this mess.

Beetle Juice wrote:

They know that Romney will kill jobs. That's part of Romney's history.

When did you move to Maryland RICO?

Why not? He is the best candidate, big chance for USA and for the world. He is chance for bilions of people including US nation. He should fight in spite of everything.
Romney is bad guy and he will ruin USA, he will ruin many other countries. It is such bloke.

omfg wrote:

<quoted text> Oh sure....they'll vote for obama the socialist pig, instead.

Nope they either vote for Gary Johnson, or not vote at all. The two parties messed up his country with their BS,and the blame game they never got a damn thing done so look what we have, a F--cking disaster I no longer will vote because it doesn't make a difference any how, no matter which canidate wins they are both backed by goldman sachs and corporates win.

WALOS wrote:

<quoted text>Nope they either vote for Gary Johnson, or not vote at all. The two parties messed up his country with their BS,and the blame game they never got a damn thing done so look what we have, a F--cking disaster I no longer will vote because it doesn't make a difference any how, no matter which canidate wins they are both backed by goldman sachs and corporates win.

That's very sad. Americans have to start putting pressure on the elected to change or else. we must insist on dismantling the govt. We have a better shot reducing govt with Romney than obama. Obama has caused our credit to downgrade which will eventully cause the dollar to lose more value and eventually not even be a market player. obama has increased the debt and faster than what it took in two terms. Do nothing and you'll allow obama to finish this country off. I at least want a fighting chance to avoid becoming another Greece.

The obama camp is hoping independents such as yourself will stay at home or throw their votes away in protest.

omfg wrote:

<quoted text> That's very sad. Americans have to start putting pressure on the elected to change or else. we must insist on dismantling the govt. We have a better shot reducing govt with Romney than obama. Obama has caused our credit to downgrade which will eventully cause the dollar to lose more value and eventually not even be a market player. obama has increased the debt and faster than what it took in two terms. Do nothing and you'll allow obama to finish this country off. I at least want a fighting chance to avoid becoming another Greece.
The obama camp is hoping independents such as yourself will stay at home or throw their votes away in protest.

It is a really bad thing for people to say that it took Bush longer to run up 5 trillion dollars of debt than it took Obama to run up 5 trillion dollars of debt. The point is both parties ran up 5 trillion dollars of debt each, neither of them are fiscal conservatives, and the two parties doing this is why we will default on our debt and go under. If the Repubs were fiscal conservatives, they would not have run up any debt. Cheney said deficits don't matter. The point is that Ron Paul is right - he says both parties run up tons of debt and he said the debt would be our undoing. He as saying this in the 2007 debates whens Bush was running up 5 trillion dollars of debt. He knew back then that we would not be able to pay the 10 trillion in debt back. Ron Paul tells the truth that the Dems spend and spend on welfare and the Repubs spend and spend on wars. This is why he says "end the welfare/warfare state. This is why he doesn't like socialism and he also is against being a military empire. All empires go under eventually and it's usually from being over-extended militarily. The Soviet Union collapsed after being in Afghanistan for ten years, now the U.S. is about 1-2 years away from total collapse after two ten year wars. The importance of hearing Ron Paul is that you have to watch the Repubs in that they WILL get into a third major war in Iran, and the debt from that would finish us off. I would rather Romney be the president in terms of he won't run up massive debts like Obama, he won't give out the money in welfare and in the big state pensions, he will privatize SS and Medicare, begin to end the country's socialism programs. He knows that the country is going into a debt crisis and will do austerity measures, cuts to all of the social programs, privatize SS and Medicare, etc. We have to do that. But it's all going to be cuts to everyone who gets any government moneies and cuts to government medical programs, like Medicare and Medicaid.

We would have been in good shape if Ron Paul had gotten elected in that he would have immediately shut down 5 large federal agencies and cut 1 trillion in spending immedidately. That would have stopped us from having to borrow any more money. That's huge, it's huge. No one gets it. He would cut both parties' big spending. We don't need 900 military bases around the world, we can't keep spending almost a trillion a year just on our military. We have to cut both the Dems' spending and the Repubs' spending. And it is really important that people get it that Bush did run up 5 trillion of debt too. YOu have to get it that both parties did this, both parties took the country down by mismanaging it, by running up so much debt on the nation that it can't be paid back and it ends in default and austerity same as the European countries. This is the reality of it. But, Ron Paul would have handled all of this much better than the Dems and Repubs, and he would have stopped the mega bankers, which is the REAL problem. he's a problem solver, the rest of them are playing the same old party games.

Bush and Obama do almost the same things. Bush left the southern border open and he tried to pass an amnesty and people complained so much that it was shot down. Both of them ran up 5 trillion dollars of debt. Be careful about letting people on TV sell you one party or the other. It's a hard sell to try and make Bush look good at all. He created more regulations than any other president, he ran up more debt than all the other presidents combined, he doubled the size of the Dept. of Education because his family owes the company that does the NO Child Left Behind tests. He had two wars and did not pay for them, he borrowed the money from China to pay for the wars. So it's like how can anyone sell either party when they do the same things? Ron Paul is telling the truth about it.

Fox works for the Republican agenda - wars for profits, stay on ending oil, oil wars, low taxes for the rich, borrow to pay for the wars. They run up tons and tons of debt with their policies too, they just give the money to the rich via the oil wars, whereas the Dems give out the money in food stamps and in SS and Medicare and in state and local pensions. It's all deficits and borrowing from both parties as far as the eye can see. Fox just has the Repub agenda and works to get the Repubs elected so of course they don't want Ron Paul, they don't want Libertarianism, because they profit from wars, they want more wars. So they get rid of the honest guy who would save the country. The media is just as bad as the two idiotic parties.

The other thing is we don't have a real GDP to be able to pay the debt back. And once you default, you can no longer borrow money. Borrowing 16 trillion dollars is based on future growth, meaning you would have to have manufacturing jobs here, good secure jobs, good paying jobs, a highly educated population that can get engineering and computer science jobs, a trade balance, that's how you get the growth needed to pay back the debt. We don't have that. China has our manufacturing jobs, we have a 800 billion dollar a year trade imbalance. The U.S. runs by borrowing money and handing it out, and you can only do that for so long, maybe one more year. So we can't pay the debt back, so we are looking at default on the debt, same as what is going on in Greece, Spain, Ireland, Iceland, etc.

When countries borrow money and run up big debts, they eventually collapse from it. What happens is the governments do austerity measures, cut and cut government spending, cut entitlements, but they found that it shrinks the GDP even more, so then those countries can't pay their debt back.

Basically what they found out in Europe is once a country has a lot of debt, nothing can fix it. It can't be paid back and they default. The Scandanavian countries defaulted on their debt about 15 years ago. This is what goes on.

Dr Ron Paul is really the best presidential candidate and he has normal, sane plans:
1. restoring peace by ending wars and by changes in foreign politics, it means taking US troops from Afghanistan homes and their bases in USA, make cut in war spendings, negotiations and dialogue with another countries.
2. restoring prosperity in USA, it means boosting economy, taking care for civilian development of country just like industry, lower taxes for middle class, financial support for middle class, more money for retired, aid for poor people in USA, more new jobs
3. liberty

Will
Paul
Please
go
back
to the
Wizard of Oz now!!!!

Greg wrote:

Dr Ron Paul is really the best presidential candidate and he has normal, sane plans:
1. restoring peace by ending wars and by changes in foreign politics, it means taking US troops from Afghanistan homes and their bases in USA, make cut in war spendings, negotiations and dialogue with another countries.
2. restoring prosperity in USA, it means boosting economy, taking care for civilian development of country just like industry, lower taxes for middle class, financial support for middle class, more money for retired, aid for poor people in USA, more new jobs
3. liberty

do you realize that our involvement in foreign countries provides us needed resources at low prices?

This has not changed since the Romans!

Why do you think Germany, Japan, Russia and ALL coutries want to expand? for jollies?

SMOKIN JOE CAMEL OBAMA wrote:

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do you realize that our involvement in foreign countries provides us needed resources at low prices?

Our "involvement" as you say has a huge cost, estimated to be at 1.5 trillion per year. We have had two wars in the last ten years that have cost a couple of trillion, thousands of Americans lives and many that will be disabled for generations. WE provide welfare, I mean aid to countries like Israel, Egypt and Pakistan, with money we do not have.

Now you state that we benefit by them "providing" us needed resources, though you don't define that term. We liberated and helped rebuild Iraq, but last I saw they weren't providing even free oil to us, let alone anything else. And what in the hell can Afghanistan offer us other than a few bullets in the backs of our military? SO as far as resources being provided, I frankly see a one way street with us providing to them.

It is time we adopt a foreign policy that we can afford and not one funded by future generations of Americans.

“We borrow from Europe to defend Europe. We borrow from the Gulf states to defend the Gulf states. We borrow from Japan to defend Japan. Is it not a symptom of senility to be borrowing from the world so we can defend the world?”

“Are vital U.S. interests more imperiled by what happens in Iraq where were had 50,000 troops, or Afghanistan where we have 100,000, or Europe where we have 80,000 troops or South Korea 28,000,-- or by what is happening on our border with Mexico?...What does it profit America if we save Anbar and lose Arizona?”

Pat Buchanan

SMOKIN JOE CAMEL OBAMA wrote:

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do you realize that our involvement in foreign countries provides us needed resources at low prices?
This has not changed since the Romans!
Why do you think Germany, Japan, Russia and ALL coutries want to expand? for jollies?

You don't invade countries and drop thousands of bombs on them to take their oil. It's illegal, and this is why Bush and Cheney can't leave the U.S. Most countries will arrest them for war crimes. You need to make things here and sell them to other countries and then buy things from them. You don't go and lie that a country has weapons of mass destruction cause you are long since out of oil and you want to take their oil. Then, Bush gave the oil in Iraq to Exxon and BP and they sell it China. It was for the oil companies, not for this country, not for us. We get stuck with the bills from it. Capitalism is based on never ending growth. Paying all of this debt back is based on growth. But you don't see anymore growth so the countries are now starting to default on their debts. You can't have never ending growth because we are beyond maximum capacity now with humans, we are at 7 billion very quickly. So we maxed out and have fished out 90 percent of the oceans already and we are killing off the oceans with run off from petro chemicals we use to mass farm cause there's way too many people. Add in the peak of world oil which keeps all of it going. So now you can no longer have constant growth. That's why Greece, Ireland, Spain, the U.S. are going under. Our debt was to be paid back based on future growth. We don't have growth, we won't have that again. OUr jobs are in China and India. We have huge trade deficits. We don't make anything. So we will default on our debt. The idea of constant growth has hit it's peak, it hit it's ceiling so the idea of capitalism is ending anyway because you can't have continual growth in China and in India with 3 billion people and have it hear too. There's too many people so it would use up too many resources plus world oil production has peaked. Why do you think the U.S. GDP doesn't grow anymore??

SMOKIN JOE CAMEL OBAMA wrote:

<quoted text>
do you realize that our involvement in foreign countries provides us needed resources at low prices?
This has not changed since the Romans!
Why do you think Germany, Japan, Russia and ALL coutries want to expand? for jollies?

As we expand, and build roads, schools and homes for foreign countries, our country is going broke, our roads and bridges are crumbling, our citizens have no jobs, losing their homes, and starving and the price of everything is skyrocketing so I guess were living the american dream huh. We have to look after our country, and our people the world comes second.

Some day Ron Paul... Some day!!!!!