Deficit commission can't muster votes to put plan before Congress, but leaders declare victory

Dec 3, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Cleveland.com

An austere deficit-cutting plan by President Barack Obama's budget commission fell short of the necessary votes Friday for swift consideration by Congress.

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The victory was that has-beens Mutt & Jeff got some face time with the media, further divided the country on issues and took valuable time from the tax cut and unemployment extensions issues.

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hahahahahahaha the Presidents own team can't agree on the propaganda to put out.
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Any austerity measure needs to address the size and cost of the federal government and along with any tax increases.

If taxes are increased without these reductions, Congress will spend the money as soon as it comes into the federal coffers.

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Government must shrink to the size that current revenues will support.

That means Obama's idiotic $3.5 Trillion Budget must be thrown out. So get to work Lame Schmucks!

I guess the DemoSchmucks would rather bring the Amnesty for Illegals bill to the floor. What a bunch of idiots!
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Sure, as long as you define "victory" as: "Hoooray!!! We get our kickback checks from Halliburton, DynCorp and KBR again this week!!!!"

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Uncommon Sense wrote:
Sure, as long as you define "victory" as: "Hoooray!!! We get our kickback checks from Halliburton, DynCorp and KBR again this week!!!!"
OBAMA CUTS AND RUNS AGAIN .......

Flies 7,000 miles -- talks to Karzai for 15 minutes on phone! WOW, 466.60 PER MINUTE, PLUS THE TWO MILLION TO GET THERE.

Leaves Biden behind to handle 'disappointing' jobs report...uh uh uh but Joe you be da man, you top dog, just don't make any decisions, just fade the heat.

2010 death toll of US troops nears that of 2001-2008 combined... Moronic voters have consequences.
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"But commission members said that by winning over an 11-7 majority on the panel for its blueprint, they had defied expectations. They said it showed that Washington politicians of both the Democratic and Republican parties could have an "adult conversation" about the painful choices required to avert a European-style debt crisis.

Devout Senate conservatives Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, and Tom Coburn, R-Okla., joined with close Obama allies Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Kent Conrad, D-N.D., in support of the failed plan. Panel members said the commission's work had fundamentally changed the national debate on the deficit

The plan received "aye" votes from five of six senators who served on the 18-member panel, chaired by former White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles and former Wyoming GOP Sen. Alan Simpson.

But five of six House lawmakers on the panel voted "nay" and killed the plan, which would slash $4 trillion from the budget over the coming decade through a combination of tax increases and painful spending cuts -- including a hike in the Social Security retirement age and lower cost-of-living increases for the program."

TWO YEARS and we will vote out the incumbents. We will elect more ADULTS.
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The laughing liberal wrote:
Government must shrink to the size that current revenues will support.
That means Obama's idiotic $3.5 Trillion Budget must be thrown out. So get to work Lame Schmucks!
I guess the DemoSchmucks would rather bring the Amnesty for Illegals bill to the floor. What a bunch of idiots!
If only we can take back all the borrowed cash used to support nation-building in Iraq. I'd rather spend on us, then them. Do you still support that nation-building effort on borrowed funds?

Fact is...for all your name calling. We had a surplus a decade ago, then two terms of Bush, and we start Obama day one with repub created 12 TRILLION dollar debt.

We know one thing...we can't do what repubs did when they spent without care for two Presidential terms.

Nation Building Facts
Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" -$3.2 billion

U.S. 2009 Monthly Spending in Iraq -$7.3 billion as of Oct 2009

U.S. 2008 Monthly Spending in Iraq -$12 billion

U.S. Spending per Second -$5,000 in 2008 (per Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on May 5, 2008)

Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq -$390,000 (Congressional Research Service)

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Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>OBAMA CUTS AND RUNS AGAIN .......
Flies 7,000 miles -- talks to Karzai for 15 minutes on phone! WOW, 466.60 PER MINUTE, PLUS THE TWO MILLION TO GET THERE.
Leaves Biden behind to handle 'disappointing' jobs report...uh uh uh but Joe you be da man, you top dog, just don't make any decisions, just fade the heat.
2010 death toll of US troops nears that of 2001-2008 combined... Moronic voters have consequences.
Your twisted versions of the truth are becoming laughable. Come up for air.
Ross

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According to MSNBC here is how they would have voted had a final vote been taken:

VOTES IN FAVOR
Bowles
Simpson
Coburn
Conrad
Cote
Crapo
Fudge
Gregg
Rivlin

VOTES AGAINST
Ryan
Schakowsky

UNDECLARED/UNDECIDED
Baucus
Becerra
Camp
Durbin
Hensarling
Spratt
Stern

Andy Stern made it clear that he would not support any proposal that altered Social Security or Medicare in any way. I suspect democrats will not support this measure if the unions oppose it.

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Our current financial crisis has been a long time in the making. The de-industrialization of the US picked up a head of steam under Clinton with his NAFTA.(When asked about it during the '08 camapign, Hillary responded that it didn't turn out quite as they axpected.) 9/11 was not just a blow to our secuirty as a nation but also shook the world markets. Many people lost half or more of their retirement savings or school funds for their children, among other things.

The economy has staggered along through Iraq and Afghanistan which theoretically should have caused an economic boom for the military/industrial complex. Unfortunately, the circumstances were not like those after Dec. 7, 1941, when shuttered factories were refitted and people were hired en masse to manufacture the tools of war. With the outsourcing of our manufacturing base, the shuttered factories remained so. All remains quiet on the industrial front.

The banking shenanigans that led to TARP and the dispersal of billions to foreign banks, as well as AIG, the housing bubble and the disarray at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have just about finished our economy.

The debt commission with its somber pronouncements is basically preaching shared sacrifice and tightening one's belt, with which most Americans have been doing for a very long time. The feds need to look at the reality of the situation. The golden goose is dead. The towel is wrung dry. The pockets are empty. They've had their fun with their grand economic theories and this is the result. Broke. Empty. Kaput.

Since the next Wikileaks "dump" is going to be about the banks, I imagine the public outcry will be unlike anything this country has seen in many decades. We have been cheated, conned and robbed.
The American people need to wake up and start DEMANDING the truth.

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Government votes to make the people suffer more. How about that!

I didn't notice one single pay or benefit CUT for them. NOT ONE yet the people that didn't do it are supposed to share the sacrifice? I don't think so.

We've already been sacrificing and it's time for the District of Corruption to get hit right in the face with Pay & Benefits cuts.
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Democrats, and Republicans on the panel voted no, because it is not a good plan. It was devised by some senile old men that haven't faced reality in years. There are ways to solve our problems. For starters elect people who understand the problem. LIke Congressman Ryan. This is not something you decide is a couple weeks. In a Lame duck session, with accent on Lame!!
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Where are cuts to the Pentegon, about two thirds of our spending, why are we looking at social security. Lets stop the wars, if we want to rein in expenses, and tax cuts for the billion aires. These are the items that got us in trouble, besides politics.
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We need the Pentagon. We need to cut waste fraud, and abuse in S S, and Welfare.

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Seeking truth wrote:
"But commission members said that by winning over an 11-7 majority on the panel for its blueprint, they had defied expectations. They said it showed that Washington politicians of both the Democratic and Republican parties could have an "adult conversation" about the painful choices required to avert a European-style debt crisis.
Devout Senate conservatives Mike Crapo, R-Idaho, and Tom Coburn, R-Okla., joined with close Obama allies Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Kent Conrad, D-N.D., in support of the failed plan. Panel members said the commission's work had fundamentally changed the national debate on the deficit
The plan received "aye" votes from five of six senators who served on the 18-member panel, chaired by former White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles and former Wyoming GOP Sen. Alan Simpson.
But five of six House lawmakers on the panel voted "nay" and killed the plan, which would slash $4 trillion from the budget over the coming decade through a combination of tax increases and painful spending cuts -- including a hike in the Social Security retirement age and lower cost-of-living increases for the program."
TWO YEARS and we will vote out the incumbents. We will elect more ADULTS.
Well it sounds more like a coach saying, hey we only lost by two touchdowns and a field goal..........

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