Time for a Military Approach to the Border

From the stronghold files.

source: NM ranchers in fight with big landowner

Border Patrol officials have called the unforgiving terrain, where Geronimo made his last stand, one of the last unguarded regions between the United States and Mexico. They said the proposed outpost on Diamond A land made the most strategic sense in battling Mexican cartel traffickers who routinely travel through nearby mountains with carpet stuck to the bottoms of their shoes to hide their tracks.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>We need to end it. the only way to do so is to solve the problem, not treat the symptoms. the reason they come here is primarily the jobs. take that away and they wiill go elsewhere or stay at home.
the recent numbers on illegal immigration and why it has slowed draatically prove this point. This will also take care of the 1/3rd f the illegals that came here legally, but just never left.

To solve the problem, first of all we need a government which will enforce the laws that are already on the books. It does no good to make new laws that they will not enforce.
They come here for jobs, but if we were doing as we are supposed to do they would never be hired. The people who hire these illegal alien invaders need to be punished, and maybe even have their business taken away from them. If they want to be traitors, then ship them out with the illegal aliens.
Like I said yesterday, I have watched the show Border Wars, and have seen them confiscate hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, but they say they have no money to secure the borders. What are they doing with all of these hundreeds of millions of dollars? They have confiscated enough money to build ten fences the whole length of the border, and gaurd towers also. Then use some of it to man them gun toweres with orders to shoot anybody trying to enter the country illegally. If the illegal aliens see that they are going to die on that border, they will not be so anxious to try to cross it.
There are many ways to fix this problem. We just have to vote in people to government offices that refuse to take their pay offs, and enforce the laws.
Look at all of the hospitals that have to shut down because of giving free medical. This also has to stop. You take away the cheese, and the rats will go someplace else then.
These illegals say they are poor, but when asked what it costs them to be smuggled across the border, you hear figures up to ten thousnd dollars that they pay. For ten thousand dollars you can live like a king in mexico. Our laws need to be enforced and the problem will go away.

Independent patriot wrote:

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That's fine for a cat problem. Your solution is, of course, inapplicable to the illegal alien problem.
Now, China is into such actions for people they don't want in their country - you should write to them and see how it's working lately.

The way these places handled the cat problem would help. Every illegal alien invader should be fixed also. They are nothing but a bunch of criminals, and breeders, so fixing them would take away their breeding capabilities.

hunter1963 wrote:

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To solve the problem, first of all we need a government which will enforce the laws that are already on the books. It does no good to make new laws that they will not enforce.
They come here for jobs, but if we were doing as we are supposed to do they would never be hired. The people who hire these illegal alien invaders need to be punished, and maybe even have their business taken away from them. If they want to be traitors, then ship them out with the illegal aliens.
Like I said yesterday, I have watched the show Border Wars, and have seen them confiscate hundreds of millions of dollars in cash, but they say they have no money to secure the borders. What are they doing with all of these hundreeds of millions of dollars? They have confiscated enough money to build ten fences the whole length of the border, and gaurd towers also. Then use some of it to man them gun toweres with orders to shoot anybody trying to enter the country illegally. If the illegal aliens see that they are going to die on that border, they will not be so anxious to try to cross it.
There are many ways to fix this problem. We just have to vote in people to government offices that refuse to take their pay offs, and enforce the laws.
Look at all of the hospitals that have to shut down because of giving free medical. This also has to stop. You take away the cheese, and the rats will go someplace else then.
These illegals say they are poor, but when asked what it costs them to be smuggled across the border, you hear figures up to ten thousnd dollars that they pay. For ten thousand dollars you can live like a king in mexico. Our laws need to be enforced and the problem will go away.

what part of the states that are most affected by illegal immigration have already had laws on the books for years about this do you not understand?

the political and citizen will is just not there for them to enforce them. people say it is on sites like this and in rallies and such, but if it means they have to hire real landscapers or roofgers or houscleaners or whatever, they want to leave it up to the other citizens. you know this is true, everyone knows this is true.

Taking down America is a multi pronged approach. It is in industry being shipped to china..and the US taxpayers paying for it.

It is in the intentional dumbing down the past 30 years of the youth in the public schools. This, coupled with the advent of technology finds children today barely able to speak words in continueity of sentence structure.

It is in the porous border to the south which dillutes the labor pool and lowers wages and increases crime.

It is in the creation of false flag operations wherefrom the masses culled in fear surrender their liberty incrementally for security. In fact whether they are skeered or not...draconian laws and infringements upon Liberty are underway created by newly established departments such as home land insecurity.

The object is to take America down to a Second world Nation status while bringing up third world countgries to a second world level.

destroy Mexico !

Storm Warning wrote:

destroy Mexico !

Why did you kill Gary Caradori?

"In a heart that is one with nature, though the body contends, there is no violence, and in the heart that is not one with nature, though the body be at rest, there is always violence. Be, therefore, like the prow of a boat. It cleaves water, yet it leaves in its wake water unbroken." -- Master Po

Angels Flight wrote:

"In a heart that is one with nature, though the body contends, there is no violence, and in the heart that is not one with nature, though the body be at rest, there is always violence. Be, therefore, like the prow of a boat. It cleaves water, yet it leaves in its wake water unbroken." -- Master Po

Man why don't you go eat a pine cone? Take that kumbyah bs and roll it in your tortilla gap!!!! WHAT A MAROON

grease remover wrote:

<quoted text>Man why don't you go eat a pine cone? Take that kumbyah bs and roll it in your tortilla gap!!!! WHAT A MAROON

What are you, some kind of commie pinko?

anyone entering America illegally should be castrated

ABOUT OBAMA'S DETRIMENTAL POLICY -- On Hillary Clinton, a few days ago, in China________

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PORTSMOUTH, Va.– Mitt Romney suggested today that if news reports are true that blind human rights activist Chen Guangcheng was urged to leave the U.S. Embassy in Beijing by American officials then it’s a “day of shame for the Obama administration.”

“Now just in the last day or two we’ve heard some disturbing things from across the world that suggests potentially if the reports are true, some very troubling developments there,” said Romney, who was in Virginia for a second day of campaigning in the battleground state.

“Where an individual, Mr. Chen, has sought freedom in a bastion of freedom – an Embassy of the United States of America, aren’t we proud of the fact that people seeking freedom come to our embassy to find it?” said Romney.“The reports are, if they’re accurate, that our administration willingly or unwittingly communicated to Chen an implicit threat to his family and also probably sped up or maybe sped up the process of his decision to leave the embassy because they wanted to move on to a series of discussions that Mr. Geitner and our Secretary of State are planning on having with China.”

“It’s also apparent, according to these reports, if they’re accurate, that our Embassy failed to put in place the kind of verifiable measures that would assure the safety of Mr. Chen and his family,” said Romney.“If these reports are true, this is a dark day for freedom and it’s a day of shame for the Obama Administration. We are a place of freedom here and around the world and we should stand up and defend freedom wherever it is under attack.”

Conflicting reports have emerged from Beijing regarding how Chen was treated at the U.S. Embassy, where he went to seek refuge after escaping house arrest under threats from the Chinese government. The Romney campaign did not respond when asked for a specific report Romney was referring to during his remarks.

Chen, 40, said he had a change of heart about leaving the country Thursday, telling ABC News in an interview,“I wanted to stay in China in the beginning, but now I have changed my mind.”

Along with his family, he now wants “to leave for the U.S. on Hilary Clinton’s plane.”

Speaking to The Associated Press, Chen, a blind human rights activist, said the only reason he left the U.S. Embassy is because he was told the Chinese would kill his wife if he refused. In subsequent comments to multiple media outlets, including ABC News, he stepped back from that comment. He said the Chinese government “threatened me that if I don’t leave the embassy, they will bring my family back to Shandong.

U.S. Ambassador Gary Locke said today in Beijing that Chen “was never pressured to leave” the Embassy.

ABC News’ Beijing bureau reporters contributed to this report.

Oh NO! A new undy pants bomber emerges....yikes~ MORE SOPHISTICATED!

hahhaha....Alex nails it.

Underwear Bomber 2: Return of The Patsy

http://www.infowars.com/underwear-bomber-2-re...

Storm Warning wrote:

anyone entering America illegally should be castrated

Run a test. Have 3 born in the usa bi linqual hispanic journalists brave to enter Mexico's southern border by covert means and when caught see what happens.

Message ----- Even bush would have done much better than Obama in last three and half years. But Obama and Biden just look so bad in their doings.

This Obama has made messes of everything daily like eating sour burritos and burgers.

===If Bush were to stay and continue his third term, the highest unemployment would be at mot 8.9%(Obma’s 9.8%) and generally would stay at average 7.6%(Obama’s 8.6%).

===The Bush drop in the economy due to private enterprising over-debting in his later period would have been recovered 1-½ years ago and by now the unemployment would be 7.1%(Obama‘s 8.1%).

===Bush probably would not bail out GM so that national debts would be about $ 12 trillion (Obama’s $16 trillion)

===Since Pakastani intelligence gave information to US and only it was real and true and true happening, so it was easy to do. As easy as that, Bush would have captured Bin Laden alive like former Saddam Hussien of Iraq and pursued trial, and everyone could see , just like the case of Saddam. If Bin Laden was shot dead, then Laden's body would be shown with ground photos like catching Saddam in the fox-hole. There is no denial of all explicit facts even Bush would present such, whether you like it or not, with no excuse for what violences would be there . As this Obama always comes up with ridiculous this and that of unproven nuisance, by always boasting his whatever messes of nonsense, in coming up with all things done badly and awfully , by even touting his embarrassment in the boasting of everything so bad to make and do his self-humiliation.

===But Obama and Biden MAY NOT BE AWARE HOW BAD THEY LOOK in their showing AS PEOPLE DO NOT TELL THEM. They look so immature with no fitness of acts, for they always behave badly as immature loud-mouth clowns. When they look into the mirrors , they just want to see how big their mouths are, so that mouths are big enough for any foot to be put into them. And some of their associates say to them, try to smile, so that people can see your mouths of how many times feet have been in your mouths there before. These ugly clowns look very bad in their disorderly behavior, as having ill , immature, pathetic acts all the time, even talking about economic recovery, Bin Laden, and foreign policy as the way they are used to the doing showing so-bad. They definitely like it more and more, that they show looking so bad as long as they don’t get to know it.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>what part of the states that are most affected by illegal immigration have already had laws on the books for years about this do you not understand?
the political and citizen will is just not there for them to enforce them. people say it is on sites like this and in rallies and such, but if it means they have to hire real landscapers or roofgers or houscleaners or whatever, they want to leave it up to the other citizens. you know this is true, everyone knows this is true.

I agree with you. Many states have laws on the books, our own government has the laws on the books. The immigration laws in the US Constitution has the laws, everybody in the government when they took office swore to uphold, and defend the US Constitution. The problem is they do not do it. We need to clean out the politicians that are traitors to this country, and have no business even being in the office. The almighty dollar makes them all crooks, they are all paid off by lobiests, and special interest people. As far as citizens go, there are just again way to many traitors to their own country. They are sheeple that can't even think for themselves most of the time. They also can be paid off. We are in very sad shape, but something has to be done if we are ever going to save this country. That is why I support having our military patrol our borders with orders to shoot anybody crossing the border illegally. That may at least cut down on the number of illegals coming into the country every single day. It can be done, but we need a government, and citizens that are willing to do so. They are hard to find, but they are out there.

Update on Brietbarts murder...

Only Eyewitness to Breitbart’s Death Disappears

Lasseter reported that Breitbart’s skin was a bizarre bright red color when he collapsed, a symptom not associated with heart attacks and one which was not explained in Los Angeles County Chief Coroner Craig Harvey’s autopsy report, which lists the cause of death as heart failure.

“I asked Lassiter specifically about Breitbart’s skin color and he said it was “bright red.” That bothered me because as an Army medical corpsman I knew that most heart attack victims turned blue,” wrote Paul Huebl, adding that Breitbart had drunk little alcohol and,“Poisons like cyanide, or carbon monoxide are known for turning skin red…The reality is they cannot be detected by normal toxicology testing.”

http://www.infowars.com/only-eyewitness-to-br...

StellarKnight wrote:

Update on Brietbarts murder...
Only Eyewitness to Breitbart’s Death Disappears
Lasseter reported that Breitbart’s skin was a bizarre bright red color when he collapsed, a symptom not associated with heart attacks and one which was not explained in Los Angeles County Chief Coroner Craig Harvey’s autopsy report, which lists the cause of death as heart failure.
“I asked Lassiter specifically about Breitbart’s skin color and he said it was “bright red.” That bothered me because as an Army medical corpsman I knew that most heart attack victims turned blue,” wrote Paul Huebl, adding that Breitbart had drunk little alcohol and,“Poisons like cyanide, or carbon monoxide are known for turning skin red…The reality is they cannot be detected by normal toxicology testing.”
http://www.infowars.com/only-eyewitness-to-br...

Listing the cause of death as 'heart failure' is suspicious in itself. Everyone dies of heart failure - heart failure is simply another term for death. In a proper autopsy report a cause of death (heart failure) must be given or listed as 'unknown.'

Does IRAN have a powerful lobby in the US like ISREAL does in AIPAC?

Do the American people know about AIPAC?

or...

Do they know about Khloe Kashardian's new $500 handbag?

Independent patriot wrote:

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Listing the cause of death as 'heart failure' is suspicious in itself. Everyone dies of heart failure - heart failure is simply another term for death. In a proper autopsy report a cause of death (heart failure) must be given or listed as 'unknown.'

Good point! First the preliminary only report comes out and before the toxology report ( one not specifically tested for poisons which turn the skin bright red) the Coroner dies of arsenic poisoning.
Now the only eye witness....disappeared.

Why is not the major snooze reporting these events? He as they was a news person.