Conservative Democrats threaten to block health bill

The particulars of the bill are undecided. Input from the GOP as well as blue dog Democrats is welcome.

Good to see the Obama Kool aid is getting diluted...They are getting an earful from their home people.Obama is slipping also..he and those thieving crooks,Pelosi,Wrangel ,the snake Rahm,and ass kissers are trying to shove this down our throats...it just may not get thru as written...trouble no body knows whats in this. TRILLIONS of dollars of our tax money...we All will pay dearly for this...hopeing it fails as it always has,when the money gets scarce to pay for this!!...Scoialism!!!

Gappy has a real pretty snapshot of the issue today.

There's a few weeks left in the summer session. Plenty of time for the President, the Chief of Staff, and the rest of the West Wing team to speak with all the factions in Congress.

The Blue Dogs will offer their proposals, and will have share sweet reason with the Administration.

All the problems will be hammered out, and there will be a plan with a public paid option for the benefit of the American people.

There are 300 million people in this country and over 2.9 billion prescriptions written every year. 131 billion dollar profit to big Pharma...they have to find a way to kill this health care bill, it is insane to think of paying just for the pharmecuticals alone, that most of these people do not need.

Gappy?

Hope all are taking note of the Socialized health plan in Massachusetts....BROKE!..check it out!

Our friends from California with their liberal lunacy,Broke!
Left wing loony liberilisum does not work.Now Shaka Zulu wants to impose this for the USA???

I think Kennedy's brain has been polluted for years..all this insanity..is his Ideas...now he sits in his house,pulling strings.with a brain that needs to be in formalade!!...CHE MESERIA!

Warren G Richards wrote:

Gappy?

Our good friend and the editor who brought us this article, the GaPatriot. Also known affectionately as Gappy.

Be careful not to feed him or pet him. We're not sure he's had his shots...

CHECK SIX wrote:

Hope all are taking note of the Socialized health plan in Massachusetts....BROKE!..check it out!
Our friends from California with their liberal lunacy,Broke!
Left wing loony liberilisum does not work.Now Shaka Zulu wants to impose this for the USA???
I think Kennedy's brain has been polluted for years..all this insanity..is his Ideas...now he sits in his house,pulling strings.with a brain that needs to be in formalade!!...CHE MESERIA!

Well! Somebody won't be supporting Mitt Romney for President.

This might be the first time the author of the Massachusetts Health Plan has been called a socialist. Ted Kennedy is a capitalist by this standard!

Warren G Richards wrote:

Gappy?

Yup, as in something missing.

Lance Winslow wrote:

The particulars of the bill are undecided. Input from the GOP as well as blue dog Democrats is welcome.

Translation: Obama's idiotic plan was exposed by the CBO again as something we can't even afford in good times!

Dumbo claims "we need to spend more to keep from going bankrupt"!

Ohhhhh. GaP = Gappy. Excuse me for the blond moment, and thank you for the clarification.

Please allow me a Rodney King moment... Can't we all just get along? Hahaha --I know; slim-to-no-chance of that. But it's okay. Republicans are tarnishing themselves on their own much better than others could.

Have a good weekend everyone.

Big hugs,

Warren

Warren G. Richards
Mesa AZ

PooPoo Platter wrote:

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Well! Somebody won't be supporting Mitt Romney for President.
This might be the first time the author of the Massachusetts Health Plan has been called a socialist. Ted Kennedy is a capitalist by this standard!

Ted Kennedy is no capitalist. He is a drunken slob who left a young girl to die in the back seat of a car while he WAITED until the alcohol was OUT of his system.

Gee, the only reason to have nationalized healthcare.... would be so.... "difficult choices" would have to be made and Ted could no longer get treatment for his brain cancer (too old, too advanced)....oh gosh, darn, that's right...he's exempt, just like the rest of congress....they exempted themselves, poo,poo!

Congress gets the BEST health treatment and let's us get inferior healthcare treatment.

NO to excessive taxation. NO to nationalized healthcare.

Why has congress exempted themselves from Nationalized Healthcare?

Warren G Richards wrote:

Ohhhhh. GaP = Gappy. Excuse me for the blond moment, and thank you for the clarification.
Please allow me a Rodney King moment... Can't we all just get along? Hahaha --I know; slim-to-no-chance of that. But it's okay. Republicans are tarnishing themselves on their own much better than others could.
Have a good weekend everyone.
Big hugs,
Warren
Warren G. Richards
Mesa AZ

Welcome to Topix Warren. NEVER forget to wear your cup! LOL!!!

yuck wrote:

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Ted Kennedy is no capitalist. He is a drunken slob who left a young girl to die in the back seat of a car while he WAITED until the alcohol was OUT of his system.
Gee, the only reason to have nationalized healthcare.... would be so.... "difficult choices" would have to be made and Ted could no longer get treatment for his brain cancer (too old, too advanced)....oh gosh, darn, that's right...he's exempt, just like the rest of congress....they exempted themselves, poo,poo!
Congress gets the BEST health treatment and let's us get inferior healthcare treatment.
NO to excessive taxation. NO to nationalized healthcare.
Why has congress exempted themselves from Nationalized Healthcare?

1) Congress shouldn't exempt themselves from laws.(Except for things like getting sued for what they say and do in session.)

2) Health care isn't nationalized. There will be a public option for the uninsured and under insured, but anybody who likes what they have is free to choose to stay with it.

Amazing isn't it? Hawaii passed legislation that provided UHC for Hawaiins .... but had to rpeal it within a year, because they couldn;t afford it... But Obama claims his UHC will SAVE money!!!
Has Obozo ever told the truth?
"Transparency" anyone?

Lawmakers Warned About Health Costs

CBO Chief Says Democrats' Proposals Lack Necessary Controls on Spending

By Lori Montgomery and Shailagh Murray
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, July 17, 2009

Congress's chief budget analyst delivered a devastating assessment yesterday of the health-care proposals drafted by congressional Democrats, fueling an insurrection among fiscal conservatives in the House and pushing negotiators in the Senate to redouble efforts to draw up a new plan that more effectively restrains federal spending.

Under questioning by members of the Senate Budget Committee, Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, said bills crafted by House leaders and the Senate health committee do not propose "the sort of fundamental changes" necessary to rein in the skyrocketing cost of government health programs, particularly Medicare. On the contrary, Elmendorf said, the measures would pile on an expensive new program to cover the uninsured.

Though President Obama and Democratic leaders have repeatedly pledged to alter the soaring trajectory -- or cost curve -- of federal health spending, the proposals so far would not meet that goal, Elmendorf said, noting, "The curve is being raised." His remarks suggested that rather than averting a looming fiscal crisis, the measures could make the nation's bleak budget outlook even worse.

Elmendorf's blunt language startled lawmakers racing to meet Obama's deadline for approving a bill by the August break. The CBO is the official arbiter of the cost of legislation. Fiscal conservatives in the House said Elmendorf's testimony would galvanize the growing number of Democrats agitating for changes in the more than $1.2 trillion House bill, which aims to cover 97 percent of Americans by 2015.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Why is Obama trying to send the country into financial ruin?

What in the Hell is wrong with that jerk?

PooPoo Platter wrote:

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1) Congress shouldn't exempt themselves from laws.(Except for things like getting sued for what they say and do in session.)
2) Health care isn't nationalized. There will be a public option for the uninsured and under insured, but anybody who likes what they have is free to choose to stay with it.

The fuzzy math they are using is the exact same match that crashed the banking industry. Anyone with basic accounting skills will tell you their numbers don't balance, the difference is when they don't we pay. Different adminastration same lies.

Larry Summers: CBO Chief "Was Acting Reasonably" With Health Care Testimony

07-17-09

President Barack Obama's chief economic adviser Larry Summers said, on Friday, that the Congressional Budget Office "was acting reasonably" when it said that the health care package proposed by congressional Democrats did not contain sufficient cost-containment measures.

But in remarks at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, Summers insisted that both Democrats in Congress and the White House would be achieving potentially major savings in the health care system through non-audited measures.

Speaking before a packed audience, Summers declared that the administration was taking a "belt-and-suspenders " approach when it came to health care.

"The president said we are going to insist on doing the difficult fundamentally important things that don't score because they can't be audited,"

SAY WHAT???????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/17/summ...

Obama trying to pass another spending bill THAT CAN'T BE AUDITED!!!!!!

What a piece of sh1t!

Glasnos wrote:

Amazing isn't it? Hawaii passed legislation that provided UHC for Hawaiins .... but had to rpeal it within a year, because they couldn;t afford it... But Obama claims his UHC will SAVE money!!!
Has Obozo ever told the truth?
"Transparency" anyone?

when they put the prescription plan into medicare a few years ago it costed more than anticipated with 15% more prescriptions being filled, is it the doctor? or is it the patient? never the less these were new prescriptions that these people didn't need before. They only "needed" them when they had the insurance to cover them.

PooPoo Platter wrote:

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1) Congress shouldn't exempt themselves from laws.(Except for things like getting sued for what they say and do in session.)
2) Health care isn't nationalized. There will be a public option for the uninsured and under insured, but anybody who likes what they have is free to choose to stay with it.

but everyone has to buy heath insurance right? Even those who can afford to pay out of pocket? Right? Even those who do not use western medicine are going to be forced to buy an insurance plan that will not cover their choice of doctoring,right?