Already, 23 Dems have said they will vote 'NO' on healthcare reform

LOL...and it's still going to pass.

LOL!...And it's still going to pass.

23 smart ones that realize we cannot afford this nonsense.

Healthcare Bill Includes $10 Billion Earmarked For Union Retirees

Joe Weisenthal
Aug. 24, 2009

Based on this Detroit News report, it sounds like at least one healthcare reform bill includes a big fat gift to the UAW:

The United Auto Workers is urging its members to back efforts in Congress to reform health care coverage, citing a provision that includes $10 billion to defray the medical costs of union members and others in reitrees.

The bill, approved by a House committee late last month, includes Section 164, a reinsurance program for retirees, according to a summary of the bill from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office. It sets aside $10 billion to establish a temporary reinsurance program to provide reimbursement to participating employment-based plans for part of the cost of providing health benefits to retirees age 55-64 and their families. A Senate version has nearly identical language.

The UAW says the language doesn't just apply to the UAW, but also to steelworkers and muni unions. As political favors go, that makes it a little more palatable. Still, stories like this don't help reform efforts, since opponents can latch onto them and blow them all out of proportion, even if $10 billion is pretty tiny by the standards of the healthcare system.

Employment-based plans must apply to participate and be approved, and the health care plan would reimburse participating employment-based plans for 80 percent of the cost of benefits in excess of $15,000 and under $90,000. The plans are required to use the funds to lower costs borne directly by participants and beneficiaries.

JUST ANOTHER TAXPAYER FUNDED BAIL OUT!!!!! W-T-F!

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090824/AUTO0...

Looks like there is bi-partisan support against the bill. Guess Obama is a uniter.

Good! Scrap the bill and START OVER!

See where Reid is going to take over for Pelosi. She is TOO unpopular, a face that americans abhor. A lot of negativity.

Apparently, there will be some trigger.

America is going down the tubes with Obama as president...wrong choices.

The Voices in the wilderness were heard in Auguest...They are scared for their Ass..for they will not be around!!...The Shawnee have a great word for the rest of them.."CUTATHOTA"... The Party will be over for Loons in congress soon....

The laughing liberal wrote:

23 smart ones that realize we cannot afford this nonsense.

23 that will be replaced with 23 other Democrats....
I noticed you failed to address the cost of doing nothing....
Like I said we Americans already pay over a trillion in Health Care Premiums. Cut our cost in half and get rid of the middle man reapling record profits as our insurance companies have already done. Then we can afford it.
Again Putz, you can keep paying your high price premiums and we'll go with a non profit program like the government employee's have now.

REpukaholic wrote:

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23 that will be replaced with 23 other Democrats....
I noticed you failed to address the cost of doing nothing....
Like I said we Americans already pay over a trillion in Health Care Premiums. Cut our cost in half and get rid of the middle man reapling record profits as our insurance companies have already done. Then we can afford it.
Again Putz, you can keep paying your high price premiums and we'll go with a non profit program like the government employee's have now.

Sounds good to me. I'll pay my premiums and keep my insurance and you can have the gov't version, like our Vets get. Just quit asking me to pay for yours and mine.

Of course they will put an end to Lawsuit abuse when the Government takes over.

Health Insurance companies get sued for refusing to pay for things like Video Game Addiction Therapy.

Democrats sabatoge private industry with lawsuits.

First of all, why is the government fining people $750 or more for not having health insurance? It's their life and their decision. What's next, another fine for not having life insurance or maybe an advanced purchase of a grave plot?

Government is going too far. Stay out of my life and more important - stay out of my wallet.

Citizens insurance basically operates the same way in Florida - I'm paying taxes and increased insurance premiums to cover this state ran insurance company (which I'm not qualified to participate)who has high risk policy customers. Enough already.

To bad they didn't list the reason all 23 are voting against it. Massa is one who is voting against it because it isn't single payer. These would be the most amenable to changing their minds. I wonder how many of the others are. 100 will oppose it if it doesn't contain a public option so it isn't a tough choice as to whether to include a public option or not. LOL! There are enough votes to pass it with a public option and those who vote no will be denied campaign funds from Democrats all across the country. If they are going to act like Republicans, those seats might as well be filled with Republicans.

How does this Grab Ya!!..Tax soda...now fine us if we chose not to be of free choice option???...LOONS WHATS IN YOUR POCKETS??...it won't be much ..for sure,for sure!!

Read On Real news ..and not BLOG SHIT!!

WASHINGTON – Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as divisions among Democrats undercut President Barack Obama's effort to regain traction on his health care overhaul.

As Obama talked strategy with Democratic leaders at the White House, the one idea that most appeals to his party's liberal base lost ground in Congress. Prospects for a government-run plan to compete with private insurers sank as a leading moderate Democrat said he could no longer support the idea.

The fast-moving developments put Obama in a box. As a candidate, he opposed fines to force individuals to buy health insurance, and he supported setting up a public insurance plan. On Tuesday, fellow Democrats publicly begged to differ on both ideas.

Democratic congressional leaders put on a bold front as they left the White House after their meeting with the president.

"We're re-energized; we're ready to do health care reform," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., insisted the public plan is still politically viable. "I believe that a public option will be essential to our passing a bill in the House of Representatives," she said....PELOSI SAYS..That Plastic Puss Old Bitch...What does OBAMA say,,the great reader,but no leader..PELOSI SAYS!!...WOW!!

If American's are against this just tell our elected officals in Washington we will not vote for them if they vote for this. By not voting for them this means to let them know no matter what else they do we will not vote for their reelection

Lance Winslow wrote:

LOL...and it's still going to pass.

not the senate, dumbass!

j w mcsherry wrote:

If American's are against this just tell our elected officials in Washington we will not vote for them if they vote for this. By not voting for them this means to let them know no matter what else they do we will not vote for their reelection

How do you people vote for a socialist,and tolerate Frankenstein Leahy??

Poor Vermont,The LOONS ,HIPPY'S,ALL egghead Freaks took over...I feel your pain!....best those in Vermont start in their own back yard....Saunders..A LOON ,a SENATOR,in VERMONT,a left wing socialest!!....Hope ya stay warm now..Beautiful Vermont..taken over by loons!!

Hussein Obama will buy them off before too long. He gets unlimited funds from his homeboy muslim terrorists in Iran and Syria.

Hussein would rent his children out as sex toys to achieve his goal to become dictator.

Lance Winslow wrote:

LOL...and it's still going to pass.

http://news.aol.com/article/fines-proposed-fo...

Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as divisions among Democrats undercut President Barack Obama's effort to regain traction on his health care overhaul.

C'mon libtard.... explain this.

The laughing liberal wrote:

Healthcare Bill Includes $10 Billion Earmarked For Union Retirees
Joe Weisenthal
Aug. 24, 2009
Based on this Detroit News report, it sounds like at least one healthcare reform bill includes a big fat gift to the UAW:
The United Auto Workers is urging its members to back efforts in Congress to reform health care coverage, citing a provision that includes $10 billion to defray the medical costs of union members and others in reitrees.
The bill, approved by a House committee late last month, includes Section 164, a reinsurance program for retirees, according to a summary of the bill from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office. It sets aside $10 billion to establish a temporary reinsurance program to provide reimbursement to participating employment-based plans for part of the cost of providing health benefits to retirees age 55-64 and their families. A Senate version has nearly identical language.
The UAW says the language doesn't just apply to the UAW, but also to steelworkers and muni unions. As political favors go, that makes it a little more palatable. Still, stories like this don't help reform efforts, since opponents can latch onto them and blow them all out of proportion, even if $10 billion is pretty tiny by the standards of the healthcare system.
Employment-based plans must apply to participate and be approved, and the health care plan would reimburse participating employment-based plans for 80 percent of the cost of benefits in excess of $15,000 and under $90,000. The plans are required to use the funds to lower costs borne directly by participants and beneficiaries.
JUST ANOTHER TAXPAYER FUNDED BAIL OUT!!!!! W-T-F!
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090824/AUTO0...

Oh even better than that.
Americans would be fined up to $3,800 for failing to buy health insurance under a plan that circulated in Congress on Tuesday as divisions among Democrats undercut President Barack Obama's effort to regain traction on his health care overhaul.
http://news.aol.com/article/fines-proposed-fo...