DREAM Act kids: Democrats offer help for them to remain in U.S. legally

Aug 5, 2012 Full story: Washington Times 433

WASHINGTON , August 5, 2012 - Good news for the million undocumented young people who are eligible to stay in the U.S. legally thanks to President Obama's "deferred action" program from deportation.

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WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#260 Aug 19, 2012
X -Man- wrote:
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How am or my sons being hypocrites?
I already told you my boys would not pretend to be anyone other than who they are, no matter what is offered to them. Not like you.
I'm tired of your b.s. It's lying, it's dishonest, and there's no excuse.
It is what it is.
Do you teach your sons to obey the law of this country? Yet, in your world, illegal alien Hispanics DON'T have to? If you don't recognize hypocrisy when it's right in front of you, I certainly can't explain it to you.

The Dream Act order rewards lying and dishonesty. Period.

If you support it, but you don't support the dishonesty that illegal aliens used to GET it, then you are a hypocrite. And your sons know it.

Children see unfairness much more readily than adults, and my kids know that special treatment for SOME is unfair to everyone. THEY KNOW that it's hypocritical, but somehow you, an adult do not? Maybe you're not as smart as a 5th grader.

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
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WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#261 Aug 19, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>I have ALWAYS gotten that fact!
Then don't take the site so literally. It's meant to hold a mirror up to the DIVISIONS that "diversity" brings. How ethnic "diversity" is actually DIVISIVE, NOT "inclusive" and how the theory is inherently racist/bigoted.

It's meant to provoke thought, not unlawful behavior. Didn't you read the disclaimer?

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
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Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#262 Aug 19, 2012
b4its2late wrote:
But, the Dems forgot to ask the citizens if it was ok
Why ? You go to war and kill people without permission from the citizens and you never complained ? What's the big deal with saving lives instead ?
WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#263 Aug 19, 2012
Crazytempest wrote:
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Why ? You go to war and kill people without permission from the citizens and you never complained ? What's the big deal with saving lives instead ?
Because those "saved lives" have no intention of assimilating into lawful society. They gained their advantage by cheating their way ahead of lawful immigrants, so why should they change now?

They bring with them the widespread corruption of their home countries because that's the way it's done there. Now Obama has proven to them that the U.S. is just as corrupt as the 3rd world places they come from, by rewarding them for lying and cheating.

Obama just approved lying and cheating to get to the U.S. and to take advantage of all the benefits of SKIRTING the law instead of rewarding those who obeyed it. THEY are the ones who Obama REALLY SLAPPED in the face.

Special treatment for some, is unfair to everyone. What happened to "equal treatment under the law"?

White Americans Posing as Hispanics
waph.intuitwebsites.com

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#264 Aug 19, 2012
WAPH wrote:
<quoted text>Because those "saved lives" have no intention of assimilating into lawful society. They gained their advantage by cheating their way ahead of lawful immigrants, so why should they change now?

They bring with them the widespread corruption of their home countries because that's the way it's done there. Now Obama has proven to them that the U.S. is just as corrupt as the 3rd world places they come from, by rewarding them for lying and cheating.

Obama just approved lying and cheating to get to the U.S. and to take advantage of all the benefits of SKIRTING the law instead of rewarding those who obeyed it. THEY are the ones who Obama REALLY SLAPPED in the face.

Special treatment for some, is unfair to everyone. What happened to "equal treatment under the law"?

White Americans Posing as Hispanics
waph.intuitwebsites.com
At least they are not showing up guns and taking the land like the white man did ! Remember the Indians ? Aha ! Gotcha SUCKA !!!
The Bewildered Herd

New York, NY

#266 Aug 19, 2012
We need to put them to work doing the jobs Americans don't want to do
WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#267 Aug 19, 2012
Crazytempest wrote:
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At least they are not showing up guns and taking the land like the white man did ! Remember the Indians ? Aha ! Gotcha SUCKA !!!
You're comparing the evolution of mankind from 500 years to the present with "showing up with guns and taking the land"? Then you must REALLY hate the Brazilians who are in the midst of their own genocide of indigenous people. But I digress.

500 years ago, there WERE no "civilized" societies that took in "immigrants". People freely migrated.

Developing countries created LAWS, so that the people living inside their borders could be safe from invading forces.

This isn't 1492 and if it was WRONG THEN, it's WRONG NOW for Hispanics to do the same thing, except with anchor babies instead of bullets.

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
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The Big House

Fullerton, CA

#268 Aug 19, 2012
The Bewildered Herd wrote:
We need to put them to work doing the jobs Americans don't want to do
Make Us Do the Math

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-...

This is a deeply personal issue for me. My father was the first member of his blue collar family to receive a college education, under the G.I. bill. Sure, he struggled at times to fill in the gaps in his background knowledge, but he persevered. He became a civil engineer, enabling him to give his children (including me) the kind of stable, middle-class upbringing he had lacked. And he made sure we got a college education, too, believing it to be the key to a better life.
The Bewildered Herd

New York, NY

#269 Aug 19, 2012
The Big House wrote:
<quoted text>Make Us Do the Math

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-...

This is a deeply personal issue for me. My father was the first member of his blue collar family to receive a college education, under the G.I. bill. Sure, he struggled at times to fill in the gaps in his background knowledge, but he persevered. He became a civil engineer, enabling him to give his children (including me) the kind of stable, middle-class upbringing he had lacked. And he made sure we got a college education, too, believing it to be the key to a better life.
formal education is becoming less a key to a better life unless your idea of a better life is debt peonage
Austinite

Austin, TX

#270 Aug 19, 2012
American citizens repeatedly voted against and let their members of Congress know they did not want any such thing and Congress actually did what the people wanted. Yet, the President went against what the vast majority of Americans wanted so how is that Democratic in any way?

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#271 Aug 19, 2012
WAPH wrote:
<quoted text>You're comparing the evolution of mankind from 500 years to the present with "showing up with guns and taking the land"? Then you must REALLY hate the Brazilians who are in the midst of their own genocide of indigenous people. But I digress.

500 years ago, there WERE no "civilized" societies that took in "immigrants". People freely migrated.

Developing countries created LAWS, so that the people living inside their borders could be safe from invading forces.

This isn't 1492 and if it was WRONG THEN, it's WRONG NOW for Hispanics to do the same thing, except with anchor babies instead of bullets.

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
waph.intuitwebsites.com
Evolution of man 500 years ago ? So you've found the missing link ? WHAT? Civilized laws ? By who's standards ? Gengis Khan outlawed prejudice of religion , race , and sex . Woman could vote and freedom of religion was accepted and it schools were mandatory in every Mongol territory . Every Mongol subject had to learn to read and write . This was in the 11th century ! USA just allowed blacks to vote less than 50 years ago ! And women too ! Listen here ! It's because of the USA that Nickelback became popular , we HATE them in Canada ! So that should SHUT U UP ! BOO YA !
WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#272 Aug 19, 2012
Crazytempest wrote:
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Evolution of man 500 years ago ? So you've found the missing link ? WHAT? Civilized laws ? By who's standards ? Gengis Khan outlawed prejudice of religion , race , and sex . Woman could vote and freedom of religion was accepted and it schools were mandatory in every Mongol territory . Every Mongol subject had to learn to read and write . This was in the 11th century ! USA just allowed blacks to vote less than 50 years ago ! And women too ! Listen here ! It's because of the USA that Nickelback became popular , we HATE them in Canada ! So that should SHUT U UP ! BOO YA !
OUR STANDARDS in THIS COUNTRY (the U.S.) are the only "standards" that matter - to us. Nickelback? Now I know you're TRULY "crazy" - good name you chose.....

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
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WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#273 Aug 19, 2012
The concept of "evolution" of SOCIETIES apparently has evaded Crazytempest, thus far in their education.

White Americans Posing as Hispanic
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Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#274 Aug 19, 2012
WAPH wrote:
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What happened to those qualities? We allowed millions of "immigrants" into our country who HAVE NONE OF THEM. Starting with Obama's illegal alien Aunt Zetunui.
She came here a decade ago from Kenya on a tourist visa, overstayed, and jumped on the welfare bandwagon, without EVER having contributed ONE DIME to our system. She lived on the public dole all the while with 2 ACTIVE DEPORTATION orders. And she REMAINS in that system to this very day. Others followed her lead.
There are between 50,000 and 80,000 Somalian "refugees" in Columbus, OH, and 1 out of 5 welfare recipients in that county are Somalian. Somalian women give birth from puberty to menopause regardless if they live in the U.S. or Somalia. Frightening to think of what kind of country our kids will inherit.
So it's NOT US, that has lost our honesty, integrity and self-reliance, our GENEROSITY has been confused with WEAKNESS. That makes ANYTHING RIPE for fraud, exploitation and cheating and that overwhelming "I'm getting mine" attitude has grown like a cancer on this country.
So, it's THEM - the new "immigrants" who BRING those bad habits to the U.S. and we ALLOW IT. Now it's out of control.
So don't blame Americans for being the most welcoming country on the globe, blame the government bureaucrats, who will scrape the bottom of the barrel for the lowest quality of new "immigrants" to ensure their own job security. And Americans are the only losers in the game. Everyone ELSE wins at OUR expense.
Take a look at the bigger picture, why don't you?
White Americans Posing as Hispanic
waph.intuitwebsites.com
No, it is you. No one can take your honesty and integrity from you. You just give it away when you (((choose))) to lie and "pose" to be what you are not. When you (((choose))) to stereotype others and blame them for your problems. When you (((choose))) to ignore the realities of racism and the impact of your own bigotry.

Maybe you need to take a look at the "bigger picture"?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#275 Aug 19, 2012
WAPH wrote:
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I "rationalize" it exactly the way you do. You support Disaster Act Adults receiving all the "loot" (legalizaton) from their parent's "crimes" (knowingly defying U.S. law) and I support Americans who are getting screwed by them.
You might be a "Hispanic-American" getting screwed by illegal aliens too, but you don't seem to mind, because of the "culture" who is being given special treatment. That's INHERENTLY BIGOTED.
By calling yourself Hispanic-American instead of just American, YOU ARE SEPARATING YOURSELF from the rest of us. That's SEPARATIST THINKING.
You are guilty of everything you hate about WAPH. Maybe you'll finally figure out that you're either AMERICAN or you're NOT. I've got quite a large mixture of ancestry in MY background, yet when it comes to DEFINING MYSELF, it's just "American". I don't have a divided loyalty as you and most Hispanics seem to.
That's the point of WAPH. I'm separating myself from you (Hispanics), just the same way you have done to me (Americans), figuratively speaking.
White Americans Posing as Hispanic
waph.intuitwebsites.com
What do you know about "what I support"?

You don't know anything about me but you let out a page long rant aiming all your animosity at everyone other than the person who is truly responsible, you.

You're the one who is choosing to be dishonest. You are separating yourself from "HONEST" Americans of ALL ethnicities and races who understand why there are benefits for minorities.

Enough with the excuses. What your doing isn't right and your view on Hispanics is the typical view of the typical bigot.

It is what it is.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#276 Aug 19, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Water...plenty of water!
No doubt...going out to finish the rest. It is HOT out there!
WAPH

Cincinnati, OH

#277 Aug 19, 2012
X -Man- wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it is you. No one can take your honesty and integrity from you. You just give it away when you (((choose))) to lie and "pose" to be what you are not. When you (((choose))) to stereotype others and blame them for your problems. When you (((choose))) to ignore the realities of racism and the impact of your own bigotry.
Maybe you need to take a look at the "bigger picture"?
You still think it's about receiving tangible benefits that white Ameericans don't qualify for don't you?

The website did EXACTLY what it was supposed to accomplish: to PROVOKE thought.

Obviously it has with you. Good. Now think about how everything you posted above is EXACTLY how many Americans feel about illegal aliens, 80% of which are Hispanic.

Get off the hamster wheel. The concept of WAPH is not about something tangible. It's about PRINCIPLES.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#278 Aug 19, 2012
X -Man- wrote:
<quoted text>
No doubt...going out to finish the rest. It is HOT out there!
We had a reprieve here as it's only about 83 right now. That's about 10-15 degrees lower than usual for this time of the year. I feel rejeuvenated when the humidity and temps are down!
Buck Farrack

Mesa, AZ

#279 Aug 19, 2012
Juan wrote:
Latinos will be the future leaders, doctors, lawyers, politicians, teachers of this country. I know many of you hate to admit it, but you know it's true and just hate to admit it.
I'm glad to agree that I hate you for your typical chollo dirt bag ways. Mexicans are like rats - they destroy good neighborhoods.
You can't watch a news program without at least three effing scum bag aliens involved in a crime. Go back to Mexico.

“what say you”

Since: Feb 10

main street

#280 Aug 19, 2012
Austinite wrote:
American citizens repeatedly voted against and let their members of Congress know they did not want any such thing and Congress actually did what the people wanted. Yet, the President went against what the vast majority of Americans wanted so how is that Democratic in any way?
Does the majority rule in America?

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