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Ron Paul on the Verge of Going Third Party?

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Bill R

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Oct 13, 2008
 
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP wrote:
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Try This Oregon! I don't believe in Ferv, you Perv! <:O))


I fervently hope not. Glad to hear it,
though at times you type as if a bit
farsighted.:-(
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP

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#9128
Oct 13, 2008
 
Bill R wrote:
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It is the naivete of such voters that actually
believe that working class people will benefit
and 97% of small businesses will benefit by
Obama's "plan."
No guarantees! Can we trust the politcal system and what the candidates say? I'm more pessimistic than optimistic, Billr. Actually the smart ones (if any ?) who did their deep due-dilligence of where the candidates stands on the most important issues to them, not just one issue. But, both can turn 180 degree or during the midterm, what trust in the system?

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#9129
Oct 13, 2008
 
Add! Billr, Should there be a warranty(s)?
Bill R

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Oct 13, 2008
 
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP wrote:
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Parodicically Extremely Sad! It should had never been invented in first place, those extremelly High risk Financial instruments should had raised RED FLAG but the in financial Industry is corrupted and dirty collusive activities by judicial system and Wall Street, the Feds... led to failure of the US economic/financial system and world instability in the financial markets.
Perhaps you or someone else can help me on this:

How does a government prevent the creation of
"financial instruments" which are highly
speculative or misleading in their potential
consequences?

I don't mean this in any way other than to
wonder how it is that a government can think
of all of the ways to circumvent existing
laws and statutes to prevent abuse of the
public trust. After all, if there is not a
law against something, it isn't illegal, so
what can be done in terms of legislation?
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP

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Oct 13, 2008
 
Bill R wrote:
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I fervently hope not. Glad to hear it,
though at times you type as if a bit
farsighted.:-(
Try on this!

Some Nearsighted, some farsighted and some out-out-0f-sight, but sight that you will see some of my point(s)! Sigh!
HehEHE HEH!
:-0

:-))
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Oct 13, 2008
 
Bill R wrote:
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Perhaps you or someone else can help me on this:
How does a government prevent the creation of
"financial instruments" which are highly
speculative or misleading in their potential
consequences?
I don't mean this in any way other than to
wonder how it is that a government can think
of all of the ways to circumvent existing
laws and statutes to prevent abuse of the
public trust. After all, if there is not a
law against something, it isn't illegal, so
what can be done in terms of legislation?
It smells FISHY, BILLR!:(

I remembered vividly reading old archived article, in year 1999 John McCain and his group of financial perverts planned to de-regulated and strucked down the most prevalent piece of law, the Glass-Stegal Act, that protected the investors... FISHY INDEED! Collusion with big businesses?

I will say Re-enacted the law and update the outadated 100 year laws to fit modern times and protect the consumers/investors and the fix financial industry with the necessry oversight of NGO auditing agency(s).

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Oct 13, 2008
 
LORAX wrote:
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Not alone it will not....constant oversight and continual cleaning (voting out incumbents) will keep them in check. Corporate and special interests will ALWAYS be there, WE just have to ensure that OUR self interests are considered as well. Oh and that increase in citizen participation is the real KEY without it all of this is just theory without any action.
We need to do a deep cleaning and peacefully to proactively do something about it. It all down to us if we want to see a glorious empire called USA to rise agian! But, We the People are bunch lazy, naive, stupid, dumbed down... grown fat , there goes the lowly human race.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>Hey CP, what do you think will happen to those insolvent pensions when the big three merge into the little one ?
Who knows what will happen to those pensions. But one thing is for sure, if those pensions disappear you will be dancing in the street and passing out candy.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>Strike a nerve, did I ?
You are anti-American. A traitor. A globalist. Your loyalties are not with America.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP wrote:
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Hopefully, the 3 American Autos merge and beat India's Tata very USD $3000 inexpensive car and Japans innovative Car that runs on water. Time to bang heads together, like CP's said soon "Dinosuarus.." !
Car that runs on water huh. Well your going to be saying that on your deathbed.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
PacLady wrote:
A vote for Ron Paul, at this point, is in fact, a vote for John McCain. And Paul stands for absolutely nothing that John McCain stands for. Paul opposed the war, as does Obama. Why would you give your vote to the guy that supported the war? If Ron Paul were a man of integrity he would come out and endorse Obama. I have talked to some Ron Paul supporters and when they say they are voting for John McCain, it just does not jive. The only thing I can come up with is that they will not vote for an African American. What more could it possibly be. Anybody got an explaination?
I haven't heard any Paulite fanatic who ever said they are voting for McCain.
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Oct 13, 2008
 
PacLady wrote:
<quoted text> The majority of white senior citizens are more than likely not going to vote for Obama, why waste the money getting out the vote there? I am sure there are few open minded Seniors but most are set in their ways....and have far more skeptical view of integration and accepting an African American President. And that is so sad. When that woman was referred to Obama as an Arab the other day, I thought how hurtful that must be to Obama, who was raised by his white grandmother and who he loves dearly. Although she sees him as an Arab and exotic, he probably sees her as someone very much like his grandmother. Can you imagine?
Liberal. What that wrinkled old woman saw was someone who wants to tax her, and send her money to Africa, send her money to African-Americans, surrender to NorthEast Africans, and TAT DADA Obama has African blood and Obama is a NorthEast African name. You want to revitalize the KKK, racism in America? Vote Obama.

If Obama follows through with his promises, it will totally destroy the Democratic Party.:) Vote Chuck Baldwin.

Think long term, not what is right in front of your nose.
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#9139
Oct 13, 2008
 
Obama would split the Democratic Party the exact same way Cynthia McKinney split the Green Party (Nader is now Independent, splitting the Green vote).

THINK LONG TERM STRATEGY and vote Chuck Baldwin. Let Obama win.:)

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Oct 13, 2008
 
Bill R wrote:
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If that is the correct it aligns with something
I have been saying for a long time on this thread
.... that for a viable and effective 3rd party to
emerge it will come from the center and segments
of the two major parties.
If this occurs I suspect it will develop out of
a bipartisan coalition brought together by one
or two major issues that are presented as "must
solve" issues. I am not necessarily sure the
monetary policy issue per se can do this, but
issues like health care have the power to do
this, particularly if unemployment results in
the wholesale loss of health benefits for the
blue collar sector. COBRA benefits aren't
forever.
See you guys have common ground when you try.

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Oct 13, 2008
 
A Farmer wrote:
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US political history is at odds with that theory. We have a two-party system and probably always will.
What will happen is that one party will end up disintegrating over an issue and another new party will be formed by those who split from the old party over that issue. The old party will just fade out because it cannot compete.
The Whig Party did just that and the Republican Party was born. The GOP is on the verge of just such a disintegration.
Not to speak for Bill, and because Ihav e not read all 44 new posts(I respond as I read - bad habit) he probably already has.

Anyway I think He realizes your thoughts and would assume the new party knocks the hell out of both and replaces the weakest.

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Oct 13, 2008
 
LocalBoy wrote:
<quoted text>The subject of leadership came up at the coffee shop.
Our resident Obama supporter and card carrying UAW rep suggested something I found intriguing.
He said the only way it can work, real monetary policy, is for a Democrat to push it. His comment was this - "A Republican is smart enough to understand the idea"
In other words - maybe the conservatives will have to take over the Donkey party the way the liberals took the GOP, blind faith
Tit for tat - as a political scientist - I would love to witness this -- but it does nothing for finding a leader.

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Oct 13, 2008
 
PacLady wrote:
A vote for Ron Paul, at this point, is in fact, a vote for John McCain. And Paul stands for absolutely nothing that John McCain stands for. Paul opposed the war, as does Obama. Why would you give your vote to the guy that supported the war? If Ron Paul were a man of integrity he would come out and endorse Obama. I have talked to some Ron Paul supporters and when they say they are voting for John McCain, it just does not jive. The only thing I can come up with is that they will not vote for an African American. What more could it possibly be. Anybody got an explaination?
Paul endorsed Baldwin not McCain.

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Oct 13, 2008
 
WORLD IDIOTS RACE WAKE UP wrote:
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We need to do a deep cleaning and peacefully to proactively do something about it. It all down to us if we want to see a glorious empire called USA to rise agian! But, We the People are bunch lazy, naive, stupid, dumbed down... grown fat , there goes the lowly human race.
You are right those are the traits we used to describe old europeans as. Americans were industrious, hard working, reverent, respectful, and innovative. We need to re-introdcuce our culture.
LocalBoy aka JFR-Clay

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Oct 13, 2008
 
LORAX wrote:
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Tit for tat - as a political scientist - I would love to witness this -- but it does nothing for finding a leader.
Your leader will come dressed as a donkey, thats the point
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Oct 13, 2008
 
LORAX wrote:
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See you guys have common ground when you try.
Common ground is low fruit

Clarifying differences is meat and potatoes

Sometimes things get worse before they get better.

The key is not change, it's understanding

Political rhetoric promotes neither
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