Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Jun 15, 2012
 
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There IS a fundamental difference between the Koran, and the others you mention here.
Of course, they all have different mythology.

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#30752
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hello - interesting topic
It is. Because did morality evolve? Created? This is one of the core differences of the view between evolutionists and creationists.

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Of course, they all have different mythology.
{Sigh} Well at least the Bible has dragons...

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No he was not. Jesus says that you can tell by their fruit.
And one of the biggest fruits is Charles Manson had eastern mysticism mixed with some twisted ideas of the Bible including thinking that he was Jesus. This in fact would disqualify him completely as being any kind of Bible believing Christian.
In fact he would be trying to take the place of Jesus...an anti-christ...in which the Bible warned that there are and would be many anti-christs.
You are still repeating the True Scotsman fallacy. He did follow the bible, you just have not read it all or you reinterpret parts of it different. How can you prove that he was not Jesus? Prove it before you claim he was not.

The bible states to kill nonbelievers in several places, I have posted some of these and you, as well as others, continually ignore those. He did as the bible commanded, and nothing more. Therefore, by your own religious beliefs, he could have been your Jesus person and you have no way to prove otherwise.

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You are still repeating the True Scotsman fallacy. He did follow the bible, you just have not read it all or you reinterpret parts of it different. How can you prove that he was not Jesus? Prove it before you claim he was not.
The bible states to kill nonbelievers in several places, I have posted some of these and you, as well as others, continually ignore those. He did as the bible commanded, and nothing more. Therefore, by your own religious beliefs, he could have been your Jesus person and you have no way to prove otherwise.
You are so off the mark it isn't funny.

There are specific prophecies...including Jesus healing...and forgiving that disqualify Manson.

And NO by no stretch of the imagination could you ever say that Charles Manson was christian let alone Jesus.

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{Sigh} Well at least the Bible has dragons...
but reality doesn't.

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You are so off the mark it isn't funny.
There are specific prophecies...including Jesus healing...and forgiving that disqualify Manson.
And NO by no stretch of the imagination could you ever say that Charles Manson was christian let alone Jesus.
Prove that Jesus healed people.

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You are so off the mark it isn't funny.
There are specific prophecies...including Jesus healing...and forgiving that disqualify Manson.
And NO by no stretch of the imagination could you ever say that Charles Manson was christian let alone Jesus.
Why not?

You are invoking the "no true Scotsman" fallacy again.

You believe that all Christians are morally upstanding people.
When you find out that history is full of a lot of counter examples, then you counter that they are 'not true Christians'.

That's fallacious reasoning

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>but reality doesn't.
{Neither does the Bible...}

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Prove that Jesus healed people.
Prove that He didn't.

Prove that we landed on the moon.

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Why not?
You are invoking the "no true Scotsman" fallacy again.
You believe that all Christians are morally upstanding people.
When you find out that history is full of a lot of counter examples, then you counter that they are 'not true Christians'.
That's fallacious reasoning
Sorry, no, I do not believe that at all. Christians morally upstanding people? Egads...Christians are still human, we still fail, some very miserably. So no, it isn't about that.

Your reasoning leaves out a lot of factors.

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Prove that He didn't.
Prove that we landed on the moon.
We have video, mineral samples, and data from that landing. There, done.

Now again, prove that Charles Manson was no Jesus.

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{Neither does the Bible...}
Leviathan?

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Prove that He didn't.
Prove that we landed on the moon.
We have reflectors up there that we can bounce lasers on. We have orbiters that have taken photos of the lander parts left there, they even show the tracks of the astornauts footprints and the tracks of the little car they borought up there. verifiable proof. We have mena that have actually placed their feet on that that satellite and come back to tell the tale. is there any more proof you need?

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Sorry, no, I do not believe that at all. Christians morally upstanding people? Egads...Christians are still human, we still fail, some very miserably. So no, it isn't about that.
Your reasoning leaves out a lot of factors.
My reasoning?

I am simply pointing out a fallacy. I am not 'reasoning'

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Sorry, no, I do not believe that at all. Christians morally upstanding people? Egads...Christians are still human, we still fail, some very miserably. So no, it isn't about that.
Your reasoning leaves out a lot of factors.
Well, if christians followed the bible accurately, they'd all be in prison.

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We have video, mineral samples, and data from that landing. There, done.
Now again, prove that Charles Manson was no Jesus.
Meteors fall from the sky all the time. No one can really prove that it is from the moon. Videos? Not with the way it looked. Where are the stars? Data can be falsified.

I've heard the conspiracy theories, they have very good points.

So, once again, you haven't proved anything. Other than you believe what someone wanted you to believe.

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Well, if christians followed the bible accurately, they'd all be in prison.
That isn't true either. But whatever...

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>We have reflectors up there that we can bounce lasers on. We have orbiters that have taken photos of the lander parts left there, they even show the tracks of the astornauts footprints and the tracks of the little car they borought up there. verifiable proof. We have mena that have actually placed their feet on that that satellite and come back to tell the tale. is there any more proof you need?
Data can be false, men can lie...at one time pictures showed a face on Mars...

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Double Fine wrote:
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Leviathan?
Leviathan? Dinosaur.

Wait are you implying dragons are dinosaurs?

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