Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

Full story: Newsday

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
Comments
30,261 - 30,280 of 45,854 Comments Last updated 1 hr ago

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31975
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

cricket wrote:
Lol. Name calling again and no response. Well, Well.[rofl]
Didn't expect anything else!
You're still so very transparent and still BUSTED!
You have to take into consideration his age, he has some good days and some bad ones at his time of life, so don't expect too much from the poor old fart even on his good days.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31976
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

kal wrote:
sorry I lost the link somehow.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/12/nasas-j...
Hmmm, looks like the emperor has no clothes, again.
His days are numbered.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31977
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

mememine69 wrote:
The worst crisis imaginable needs certainty, not maybes.
-Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
That's true that he hasn't mentioned it. However he is already implementing many strong arm backdoor measures 'under the radar'[ some by exec orders, some by many more regulations] thru the various bureaucracies like the EPA. One has to go looking to find them.

The goal is still a total "green economy" thru sustainable development; meaning shortages,rationing more regulations and gov interference in everyone's life.The end to a free market system. Their definition of sustainable development is not the same as your or mine. Neither is 'green economy'

I don't believe that anything will change no matter who gets to be The Big Cheese. Both choices suck big time. I believe it will still continue to slide down the mountain to achieve certain pre planned 'goals'. If Romney manages to get elected, it is because he's already shown that he'll serve his masters well. It probably won't be because of what he stands for and will only be a vote against O. Then he'll accomplish that part of the plan that O could never get away with.

SSDD.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31978
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

1

1

Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You have to take into consideration his age, he has some good days and some bad ones at his time of life, so don't expect too much from the poor old fart even on his good days.
Okay. Noted.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31979
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

cricket wrote:
<quoted text>
That's true that he hasn't mentioned it. However he is already implementing many strong arm backdoor measures 'under the radar'[ some by exec orders, some by many more regulations] thru the various bureaucracies like the EPA. One has to go looking to find them.
The goal is still a total "green economy" thru sustainable development; meaning shortages,rationing more regulations and gov interference in everyone's life.The end to a free market system. Their definition of sustainable development is not the same as your or mine. Neither is 'green economy'
I don't believe that anything will change no matter who gets to be The Big Cheese. Both choices suck big time. I believe it will still continue to slide down the mountain to achieve certain pre planned 'goals'. If Romney manages to get elected, it is because he's already shown that he'll serve his masters well. It probably won't be because of what he stands for and will only be a vote against O. Then he'll accomplish that part of the plan that O could never get away with.
SSDD.
NIce try.
The logical observation is that if it were a crisis, what could be worse, a comet hit? You can't have a little climate crisis, maybe in Harry Potter movies. Nobody is acting like it is a crisis, even you. So Obomber is just giving it all lip service you remaining doomers quickly jump into line like good soldiers but history is laughing.
Maybe YOU should try acting like a climate crisis is real? Or get the millions of people in the global scientific community to join YOU and the dozens of climate change protesters and SAVE THE WORLD.
Someday, condemning billions of children to a CO2 death will be a crime. REAL environmentalism has move on from the CO2 mistake and tragic exaggeration and REAL planet lovers are glad a crisis wasn’t real for whatever reason.
Deny that!

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31980
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh no 'cricket', so you are saying none of obamas ideas have worked in kenya? who whould have known. here is yet another report on the boy who keeps crying wolf. can't help but laugh about this idiot.
Pathetic.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31981
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

cricket wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no idea of what you are talking about.
4 yrs have gone by and there is more debt now than ever, placed on the citizens backs and things are falling apart at a rapid pace.
This is not a matter of "no one knows what to do". They all know exactly what they are doing and doing it exactly on purpose with intent.
[Did you know that Iceland bailed no one out? That they arrested the bankers and threw them in jail and have bounty hunters out hunting the rest of them for what they did and the fraud that they perpetrated? That Iceland paid all the mortgages of their citizens instead of bailing out the fat cats so they could give themselves raises & multi million $$$ bonuses while defrauding their citizens?
Did you know that Iceland's economy is doing just fine because they did the right thing by letting the criminals fail & threw them in jail instead of robbing their citizens blind?]
Any bailout was the wrong thing to do and wouldn't work. They ALL knew that. End of story.
Stimulate job creation in the public sector? Tell that to the powers that be who have created roadblocks at every turn for small businesses to survive, let alone thrive and hire more.
Just where were you when your 'man' said exactly that, his answer was re-distribution thru taxation?
Jobs are still being destroyed in the private sector right now.
I'm sure by private sector job creation that you mean big business that's in bed with the government, which by the way thru regulations and perks by the same powers that be, left and went overseas to hire in sweatshops at dirt pay for a bigger profit.
I don't remember anyone rescinding all those tax breaks & subsidies in the last 4 years so they would come back and put America back to work.
I understand that mistakes were made, mostly before the crash. However, once the economic bubble burst the only answer was stimulus. You all know that, but must find fault to cover up the Neocon fallacy. The ideas fostered by the Neocons were implicit in the position in which we found ourselves. The full court press by the Neocons and their minions, the RW think tanks, conservative media, and the paid mouths moved the country into the mentality that fostered the false economy.

To return to that mentality would be doing the same thing over again expecting a different outcome. We are on the track of getting things working once again. Austerity measures will do nothing to get the wheels of progress working once again. We often forget that government spending brought us out of the Great Depression. Both jobs programs and later the massive spending for WWII.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31982
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

kristy wrote:
<quoted text>
Poverty levels highest since 1965
Unemployment over 8% for 42 straight months
All-time high of households on food stamps
Record number of workers taking disability
GDP trending downward now at 1.5%
GM stocks have fallen 40% and they owe taxpayers 42 billion
Deficit neutral Obamacare to add 340 billion over the next 10 years
No budget passed for 3 years
All of this after 3-1/2 years of Obama policies. No wonder most Americans feel we are on the wrong track. Only progressive leftists would consider the economy to be "fixed" and on the right track.
adding:

.....reckless spending and fiscal policies have added more to the national debt than most U.S. presidents combined: Roughly $6 trillion
during his first term in office (making the total debt nearly $16 trillion) and, by White House projections alone,$21.3 trillion by the
end of fiscal 2017,$25 trillion in 2021 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.

....the federal budget is at $3.8 trillion, the federal deficit at $1.3 trillion and the national debt is quickly approaching a staggering $16 trillion.[In 2007 the annual federal budget was about $2.9 trillion, the federal deficit was $161 billion and the national debt was $9 trillion.]

....“U.S. total debt is now about 101% of
GDP.… The president’s current spending proposal projects the debt will grow to $21.3 trillion by the end of fiscal 2017. The White House projected [it's] plan would lead to gross national debts of $25 trillion in 2021 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.”

....2011 budget increased total welfare spending to $953 billion, a 42 percent increase
over welfare spending in 2008. And over the next decade, welfare spending is projected to cost taxpayers $10.3 trillion.

.....“called the food stamp president” because more federal grocery subsidies have been given out under his presidency than most others combined. A record 44.7 million people – or one in seven Americans – were on food stamps last year

.....Real unemployment rates are hidden. Millions are still out of work.

.....40% of IRS Revenue Going to Military budgets

.....The cost of Obamacare has been revised due to 'omitting' some factors (ya mean they weren't honest? gasp! lol) to 2.6 TRILLION in the FIRST decade and projected to go higher.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31983
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>NIce try.
The logical observation is that if it were a crisis, what could be worse, a comet hit? You can't have a little climate crisis, maybe in Harry Potter movies. Nobody is acting like it is a crisis, even you. So Obomber is just giving it all lip service you remaining doomers quickly jump into line like good soldiers but history is laughing.
Maybe YOU should try acting like a climate crisis is real? Or get the millions of people in the global scientific community to join YOU and the dozens of climate change protesters and SAVE THE WORLD.
Someday, condemning billions of children to a CO2 death will be a crime. REAL environmentalism has move on from the CO2 mistake and tragic exaggeration and REAL planet lovers are glad a crisis wasn’t real for whatever reason.
Deny that!
Hey, you read my response wrong. I'm not a doomer, never have been. I have never believed in any crisis b/c the science does not back it up.

I was just saying that just because O or anyone else does not mention this in speeches because it is not a popular subject anymore [and he wants to be re-elected] does not mean that he is not implementing measures anyway.
Because he is. In the name of mmcc, cc or whatever they call it these days.

I have always stated that I believe mmcc & cc is a con for political ends & goals.

So, lighten up! Wrong person! I'm not the one scaring anyone.
JBH

Richmond, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31984
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

FROM ABOVE
----------
USA RANKS OVERALL AS THE SEVENTH = 7TH POSITION IN SHOWING IN MEDALS PER POPULATION AND EIGHTH 8TH = 8TH POSITION IN MEDALS PER GDP,
DESPITE USA IS NUMBER ONE = NO.1 IN OVERALL TOTAL MEDALS

==========

2012 LONDON OLYMPIC RESULTS:
GOLD SILVER TOTAL

1
USA TOT MEDALS/POP TOT MEDALS/GDP

104/313M=0.33 104/15T=6.93
2
People's Republic of China
38 27 22 87/1300M=0.06 87/7.7T=11.2
3
Russian Federation
24 25 33 82/139M=0.59 82/2.2T=37.3
4
Great Britain
29 17 19 65/63M=1.03 65/2.6T=25
5
Germany
11 19 14 44/81M=0.54 44/3.7T=11.9
6
Japan
7 14 17 38/126M=0.30 38/6.1T=6.2
7
Australia
7 16 12 35/23M=1.52 35/1.8T=19.4
8
France
11 11 12 34/65M=0.52 34/2.9T=11.7
9
South Korea
13 8 7 28/49M=0.57 28/1.2T=23.3

==========
RANK- TOTAL MEDALS/POPULATION
1
Australia
7 16 12 35/23M=1.52


2
Great Britain
29 17 19 65/63M=1.03

3
Russian Federation
24 25 33 82/139M=0.59

4
South Korea
13 8 7 28/49M=0.57

5
Germany
11 19 14 44/81M=0.54


6
France
11 11 12 34/65M=0.52

7
USA 104/313M=0.33

8
Japan
7 14 17 38/126M=0.30

9
CHINA
38 27 22 87/1300M=0.06

==========

RANK-TOTAL MEDALS/GDP:

RANK 1 = Russian Federation
24 25 33 82/2.2T=37.3

RANK 2 = SOUTH KOREA
13 8 7 28/1.2T=23.3

RANK 3 = AUSTRALIA
7 16 12 35/1.8T=19.4

RANK 8= USA
104/15T=6.93

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31985
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

1

1

cricket wrote:
<quoted text>
adding:
.....reckless spending and fiscal policies have added more to the national debt than most U.S. presidents combined: Roughly $6 trillion
during his first term in office (making the total debt nearly $16 trillion) and, by White House projections alone,$21.3 trillion by the
end of fiscal 2017,$25 trillion in 2021 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.
....the federal budget is at $3.8 trillion, the federal deficit at $1.3 trillion and the national debt is quickly approaching a staggering $16 trillion.[In 2007 the annual federal budget was about $2.9 trillion, the federal deficit was $161 billion and the national debt was $9 trillion.]
....“U.S. total debt is now about 101% of
GDP.… The president’s current spending proposal projects the debt will grow to $21.3 trillion by the end of fiscal 2017. The White House projected [it's] plan would lead to gross national debts of $25 trillion in 2021 and $25.9 trillion in 2022.”
....2011 budget increased total welfare spending to $953 billion, a 42 percent increase
over welfare spending in 2008. And over the next decade, welfare spending is projected to cost taxpayers $10.3 trillion.
.....“called the food stamp president” because more federal grocery subsidies have been given out under his presidency than most others combined. A record 44.7 million people – or one in seven Americans – were on food stamps last year
.....Real unemployment rates are hidden. Millions are still out of work.
.....40% of IRS Revenue Going to Military budgets
.....The cost of Obamacare has been revised due to 'omitting' some factors (ya mean they weren't honest? gasp! lol) to 2.6 TRILLION in the FIRST decade and projected to go higher.
All of this resulted from an economic fiasco fostered by the Neocon mantra that we needed to give the rich more tax breaks and relinquish government oversight of the financials. Unfortunately the other choice was a deep depression. If that happened, you would really have something to howl about. It wouldn't have been Hoover's depression, it would have been the Bush depression.

BTW, we are paying for the health care cost of the indigent and poor folks indirectly anyhow. How will a more efficient and direct health care plan cost more? Perhaps in taxes, but less in inflated health premiums and padded bills in doctors offices and hospitals due to the fact that they must be compensated for the "free" care.

Here is what would really cost the middle class. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/08/01/stud...

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31986
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

2

cricket wrote:
<quoted text>...
I have always stated that I believe mmcc & cc is a con for political ends & goals.
So, lighten up! Wrong person! I'm not the one scaring anyone.
So you readily admit that you are a conspirator.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31988
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
All of this resulted from an economic fiasco fostered by the Neocon mantra that we needed to give the rich more tax breaks and relinquish government oversight of the financials. Unfortunately the other choice was a deep depression. If that happened, you would really have something to howl about. It wouldn't have been Hoover's depression, it would have been the Bush depression.
BTW, we are paying for the health care cost of the indigent and poor folks indirectly anyhow. How will a more efficient and direct health care plan cost more? Perhaps in taxes, but less in inflated health premiums and padded bills in doctors offices and hospitals due to the fact that they must be compensated for the "free" care.
Here is what would really cost the middle class. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/08/01/stud...
It is not anybody else's fault for what the current administration is doing and their wrecking ball policies that are being used. It's b.s. to not take ownership for one's own doings. It's called accountability & responsibility.

The choice was bail out's and massive debt that we the people have to pay or a depression? Yes, that was the bs & scare tactics that was told to justify the robbery. Just postponing the obvious.

Are The Government And The Big Banks Quietly Preparing For An Imminent
Financial Collapse?

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/a...

Plans are to morph healthcare to single payer anyway. Anything run by this gov doesn't work well, has major cost increases and is badly mis-managed. It'll be an eye opener when people have to pay huge premiums to pay for others care but get denied treatment for themselves. Did you know the current regs say that whatever treatment O-care denies a person, it will be illegal to pay for it out of your own pocket [if the current bill stands]?

It's choice that is being removed. It is a forced purchase mandated by law and punitive measures.
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31990
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

1

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
So you readily admit that you are a conspirator.
no,
- when something is an obvious lie,
- proven to be a lie,
- admitted to be a lie,
- scientists caught lying,
- doesn't meet scientific criteria, and
-the ulterior motives are admitted by even the UN and others in high places, that it is just a vehicle and means to an end....

It is a con.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31991
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

Wait a few months. The hysterical controllniks will be using the same taxpayer funded statistics to "prove" that global "warming" has ended and the world has entered a new ice age. This time though, they will be armed with Lowenthal grocery and goods bag harassment taxes which they will use to keep our friends, the fishes, from choking on tree-saving plastic grocery bags.

Ronald
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31992
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
All of this resulted from an economic fiasco fostered by the Neocon mantra that we needed to give the rich more tax breaks and relinquish government oversight of the financials.
Certianly it is due to the concentration of political and economic power in the hands of the 1%(or less) which then give themselves handouts from the public purse and distort laws to allow them to defraud the public.

Not an unexpected end (the decline and fall of the Western Democracies?).

But the coming collapse could be held off long enough for a rebalancing of the rich, poor and middle class if the Glass-Seagall Act of 1933 was restored.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93St...
LessHypeMoreFact

Toronto, Canada

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31993
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

Ronald wrote:
Wait a few months. The hysterical controllniks will be using the same taxpayer funded statistics to "prove" that global "warming" has ended and the world has entered a new ice age. This time though, they will be armed with Lowenthal grocery and goods bag harassment taxes which they will use to keep our friends, the fishes, from choking on tree-saving plastic grocery bags.
Ronald
Sarcasm must be a lost art in California.. ;-)

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31994
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

The human race doesn't have much time left on planet Earth, but Glowbull warming won't be what causes its demise.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31995
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

1

1

1

NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, aka:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Certianly[sic] it is due to the concentration of political and economic power in the hands of the 1%(or less) which then give themselves handouts from the public purse and distort laws to allow them to defraud the public.
Keep trying, Bozo might eventually throw you a bone.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Sarcasm must be a lost art in California.. ;-)
How would you know, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
cricket

Orlando, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#31996
Aug 13, 2012
 

Judged:

2

2

1

Earthling-1 wrote:
The human race doesn't have much time left on planet Earth, but Glowbull warming won't be what causes its demise.
Sure doesn't seem like it from this vantage point, who really knows and for certain it will not be from the fictitious 'globull warming'.
.
I've wondered just how many times this place has been devastated thru the billions of years and just a remnant have survived to start it all over again.
We only have some records just a little further back than the Sumarian culture, although clues in archeology seem to say that there obviously were 'sophisticated' civilizations here much earlier than that. It's a curiosity for sure.

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent US House of Representatives Discussions

Search the US House of Representatives Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Evolution vs. Creation (Jul '11) 7 min messianic114 113,011
With Israel at war, US lawmakers give full support 7 min scirocco 3
Chick-fil-A Vallejo Location Faces Opposition 14 min Frankie Rizzo 223
Gay marriage (Mar '13) 17 min Frankie Rizzo 52,781
'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate (Oct '10) 19 min DITCH MITCH 146,887
Obama going to dinner as clock ticks toward recess 23 min Responsibility 4
Hundreds of protests planned this weekend acros... 26 min Responsibility 126
•••
•••