Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

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When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.
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Teddy R

Houston, TX

#32021 Aug 14, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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If you cannot take the time to study the Great Depression, at least watch the series by Ken Burns. The country nearly went socialist because of the suffering. Roosevelt prevented that and by doing so saved capitalism.
OMG, yes! Ken Burns, that Nobel prize-winning Economist!

Cherished Progressive FDR-worshipping mythology.

Superannuated leftists all over Topix are tearing up and humming L'Internationale, I'm sure.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#32022 Aug 14, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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OMG, yes! Ken Burns, that Nobel prize-winning Economist!
Cherished Progressive FDR-worshipping mythology.
Superannuated leftists all over Topix are tearing up and humming L'Internationale, I'm sure.
Ken Burns is no economist but he is an American director and producer of documentary films. He has the ability to put faces into the pages of history. If you cannot watch Ken Burns documentaries on the Depression, the Civil War, Prohibition,or even Jazz without interjecting politics, you have a serious problem.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#32023 Aug 14, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Ken Burns is no economist but he is an American director and producer of documentary films. He has the ability to put faces into the pages of history. If you cannot watch Ken Burns documentaries on the Depression, the Civil War, Prohibition,or even Jazz without interjecting politics, you have a serious problem.
Dude.

You're the one who interjected Ken Burns into a political discussion in the first place.

I'm a big fan of his work, btw - as a film-maker.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#32025 Aug 15, 2012
Hmmm, I must be in the wrong forum, I could have sworn this thread was about Glowbull warming speeding up.
budd

Thailand

#32026 Aug 15, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
Hmmm, I must be in the wrong forum.
Yes you are correct. Please move to the "old pohms living in Spain" thread.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#32028 Aug 15, 2012
The MWP was global.
PHD

Houston, TX

#32029 Aug 15, 2012
Earthling-1 wrote:
The MWP was global.
Again you’re the commander of useless babble.

“Happy, warm and comfortable”

Since: Oct 10

Mountain hideaway, SE Spain

#32030 Aug 15, 2012
PHDumbo wrote:
Again you’re the commander of useless babble.
You're posting here at 06:00 hrs local time, don't you have a life?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#32031 Aug 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Dude.
You're the one who interjected Ken Burns into a political discussion in the first place.
I'm a big fan of his work, btw - as a film-maker.
Only because folks need to understand the implications of what a depression consists of. Not because of any political ramifications. I believe the series is apolitical and simply presents a picture of the conditions at the time.
koz

Shippingport, PA

#32032 Aug 15, 2012
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
I suppose you are one of the Reich Wing folks who would not approve of giving public works jobs to folks who had no livelihood because of the collapse of capitalism.
Capitalism has never collapsed, even under the burden of parasitic socialist schemes.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32033 Aug 15, 2012
By not acting on global warming, the consequences are increasingly high. The floods of 2010 were an example of how the largest annual storms are increasingly extreme.

Hannah Plon, an organizer for Environment Rhode Island.
Teddy R

Houston, TX

#32034 Aug 15, 2012
SpaceBlues wrote:
By not acting on global warming, the consequences are increasingly high.
Still waiting to hear the specific practical actions you expect to be taken on global warming, who exactly you're holding responsible for taking them, deadlines for action, their cost, and the projected effect on global avg temps that will result from these actions.

If you can't articulate a specific plan of action with assigned responsibilities that is practical and achieveable, you really have no reason to be whining about people not acting.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32035 Aug 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Still waiting to hear the specific practical actions you expect to be taken on global warming, who exactly you're holding responsible for taking them, deadlines for action, their cost, and the projected effect on global avg temps that will result from these actions.
If you can't articulate a specific plan of action with assigned responsibilities that is practical and achieveable, you really have no reason to be whining about people not acting.
Excellent post.

Some things don't cost but save. For example, we can reduce our personal carbon footprint by 20 percent in the next year.

How about you?

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#32036 Aug 15, 2012
koz wrote:
<quoted text> Capitalism has never collapsed, even under the burden of parasitic socialist schemes.
Several times the bubble burst. Each time folks had to suffer. In earlier times there were enough rural folks to weather the downfall because they had access to food. In the dirty thirties, the drought interacted with the depression to cause much suffering. The toll on lives and democracy probably itself would have been nearly unbearable if the government had not propped up capitalism. Yes, capitalism collapsed. If it was not for Roosevelt, the country undoubtedly would have gone Socialist. He saved Capitalism. Read your history.
kal

West Richland, WA

#32037 Aug 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Still waiting to hear the specific practical actions you expect to be taken on global warming, who exactly you're holding responsible for taking them, deadlines for action, their cost, and the projected effect on global avg temps that will result from these actions.
If you can't articulate a specific plan of action with assigned responsibilities that is practical and achieveable, you really have no reason to be whining about people not acting.
oh but 'teddy', the cost of specific actions, are to this day. a waste and there seems to be no projected effect. it seems the whole fairytale idea of global warming caused by man can only be fought with large amounts of fairy dust. perhaps they will find a big pile of it on mars. the bottom line is weather is nature, climate is nature. man made global warming is nothing but b.s.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/15/newly-d...
Northie

Spokane, WA

#32038 Aug 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Still waiting to hear the specific practical actions you expect to be taken on global warming, who exactly you're holding responsible for taking them, deadlines for action, their cost, and the projected effect on global avg temps that will result from these actions.
If you can't articulate a specific plan of action with assigned responsibilities that is practical and achieveable, you really have no reason to be whining about people not acting.
Dude. Be honest. You are a political fanatic who won't be swayed by scientific evidence, and much less by economic analyses that doesn't pass your conservative political filter.

If you actually cared about climate economics and policy recommendations, you might read the widely available studies published by McKinsey, MunichRE, or this one by former UK Chancellor of the Exchequer Nicholas Stern:

http://tinyurl.com/4nhf24f
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32039 Aug 15, 2012
kal wrote:
<quoted text>oh but 'teddy', the cost of specific actions, are to this day. a waste and there seems to be no projected effect../
You are out of your mind.

What are you saying? NONSENSE.

Are you drunk?
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32040 Aug 15, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Still waiting to hear the specific practical actions you expect to be taken on global warming, who exactly you're holding responsible for taking them, deadlines for action, their cost, and the projected effect on global avg temps that will result from these actions.
If you can't articulate a specific plan of action with assigned responsibilities that is practical and achieveable, you really have no reason to be whining about people not acting.
I guess you wish to restart the forum.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32041 Aug 15, 2012
The benefits of strong, early action on climate change outweigh the costs.

Climate change threatens the basic elements of life for people around the
world - access to water, food production, health, and use of land and the
environment.

The damages from climate change will accelerate as the world gets warmer.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#32042 Aug 15, 2012
Achieving these deep cuts in emissions will have a cost. The Review estimates the annual costs of stabilisation at 500-550ppm CO2e to be around 1% of GDP by 2050 - a level that is significant but manageable.

Resource cost estimates suggest that an upper bound for the expected annual cost of emissions reductions consistent with a trajectory leading to
stabilisation at 550ppm CO2e is likely to be around 1% of GDP by 2050.

There is still time to avoid the worst impacts of climate change if strong collective action starts now.

http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTINDONES...

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