Fla. Task Force Begins Review Of "Stand-Your-Ground" Law

Jun 12, 2012 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: miami.cbslocal.com

Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law will take center stage Tuesday as a task force set up by Gov. Rick Scott holds its first public hearing.

Gov. Scott’s task force on Citizen Safety and Protection was created in the wake of the Travyon Martin shooting. Its members include law enforcement officers, politicians and community leaders.

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EVERYONE in Florida law enforcement and government seems to be missing the point:

It was Mr Martin who ws "Standing His Ground."

It was Mr Zimmerman who presented a threat, and Mr Martin uned restraint be not taking his gun away and shooting him. If killing is permissable under this law, certainly 'roughing up' as Martin sems to have done with Zimmernam, is permissable.

Will some Florida citizen remind the legal sysytem,of this?
Won't some reporter follow this line of reason as a lead?
Does anyone think anymore?
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Mr_Bill wrote:
EVERYONE in Florida law enforcement and government seems to be missing the point:
It was Mr Martin who ws "Standing His Ground."
It was Mr Zimmerman who presented a threat, and Mr Martin uned restraint be not taking his gun away and shooting him. If killing is permissable under this law, certainly 'roughing up' as Martin sems to have done with Zimmernam, is permissable.
Will some Florida citizen remind the legal sysytem,of this?
Won't some reporter follow this line of reason as a lead?
Does anyone think anymore?
Agreed. If you're going to give people the right to 'stand their ground,' you can't take that right away just because the one doing the 'standing' is a young black male. It must be applied fairly.

Chasing people down with a gun because you think they're 'suspicious' is in NO way 'standing your ground.'
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Stand your ground doesn*t apply in this case according to the author of the law who is a legislator in the FL. capitol.So why are we investigating a law that does not apply?
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radiofreeamerica wrote:
Stand your ground doesn*t apply in this case according to the author of the law who is a legislator in the FL. capitol.So why are we investigating a law that does not apply?
If it "doesn't apply" (link?) in the Martin case, then why is every Rightie idiot insisting that it DOES apply? And further, insisting that it applies on Zimmerman's behalf, and not on Trayvon Martin's?
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Mr_Bill wrote:
EVERYONE in Florida law enforcement and government seems to be missing the point:
It was Mr Martin who ws "Standing His Ground."
It was Mr Zimmerman who presented a threat, and Mr Martin uned restraint be not taking his gun away and shooting him. If killing is permissable under this law, certainly 'roughing up' as Martin sems to have done with Zimmernam, is permissable.
Will some Florida citizen remind the legal sysytem,of this?
Won't some reporter follow this line of reason as a lead?
Does anyone think anymore?
Many people think we can legislate common sense. If Mr. Zimmerman shot Mr. Martin needlessly, then (the way they see it), there must be some deficiency in the current laws that allowed something like that to happen. The Stand-Your-Group law should never have applied to this case. That's what made the family and community so angry; that Mr. Zimmerman was allowed to walk without charges for several weeks.
It's sensible for someone in the privacy of their own home to defend themselves from an intruder. More so in Florida than other states. Let's face it; there are a lot of nuts in Florida and the normal people have to band together.
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Any law that gives any spousal abuser a gun should be examined. What part of "crime watch" did george not understand?

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"Stand Your Ground" must continue to STAND

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Mr. Zimmerman was stalked back to his vehicle and then beat up by a thugg...Now a dead thugg

Mr. Zimmerman should have been given a key to the city and an award
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George Zimmerman thought he had established his alibi via 911. So he profiled, stalked, chased, confronted and killed the unarmed teenager. If anyone was Standing Their Ground it was Trayvon Martin.
Reported Day Sun 2/26/12 19:17
Time dispatched 2/26/12 19:17
Time Arrived 2/26/12 19:17
Reporting officer Ayala, Ricardo
Offense Description: HOMICIDE-NEGLIG MANSL-UNNECESSRY KILLING TO PREVENT UNLAWFUL ACT. Eventually Zimmerman was arrested for 2nd degree murder.
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Mr_Bill wrote:
EVERYONE in Florida law enforcement and government seems to be missing the point:
It was Mr Martin who ws "Standing His Ground."
It was Mr Zimmerman who presented a threat, and Mr Martin uned restraint be not taking his gun away and shooting him. If killing is permissable under this law, certainly 'roughing up' as Martin sems to have done with Zimmernam, is permissable.
Will some Florida citizen remind the legal sysytem,of this?
Won't some reporter follow this line of reason as a lead?
Does anyone think anymore?
Martin committed a criminal assault against Zimmerman and beat his head on the ground. Criminals can not claim any protection under the stand your ground law.

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Martin committed a criminal assault against Zimmerman and beat his head on the ground. Criminals can not claim any protection under the stand your ground law.
Learn how to draw a timeline.

It was Mr Martin who was assaulted.
He was killed during the commission of a crime (Zimmerman's assault on Martin) and is therefore indictable for second degree murder.
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If "stand your ground" is repealed then the only way to defend yourself in public is to first run away-try to escape-and get shot in the back.
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Learn how to draw a timeline.
It was Mr Martin who was assaulted.
He was killed during the commission of a crime (Zimmerman's assault on Martin) and is therefore indictable for second degree murder.
I would love to see your time line, surely you don't suggest that martin beat zimmerman after he was shot. I always said we have to wait to see what happened but we don't have to wait any longer. Ii have read everyone of the 183 pages of the discovery packet, there is still more to come but it gives you all the witness statement in their own hand. Martin physically assaulted zimmerman before he was shot and he has the pictures to prove it. You are a lying race baiter trying to create an incident out of something it is not.

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I would love to see your time line, surely you don't suggest that martin beat zimmerman after he was shot. I always said we have to wait to see what happened but we don't have to wait any longer. Ii have read everyone of the 183 pages of the discovery packet, there is still more to come but it gives you all the witness statement in their own hand. Martin physically assaulted zimmerman before he was shot and he has the pictures to prove it. You are a lying race baiter trying to create an incident out of something it is not.
No, certainly not.
Martin was stalked and assaulted by Zimmerman for more than ten minutes. He was assaulted by an armed man before he confronted Zimmerman, and he "stood his ground."

Assault is not 'physially'...that is battery. Learn what you are saying before you say it.
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No, certainly not.
Martin was stalked and assaulted by Zimmerman for more than ten minutes. He was assaulted by an armed man before he confronted Zimmerman, and he "stood his ground."
Assault is not 'physially'...that is battery. Learn what you are saying before you say it.
If I had not previously pointed out the Florida stalking law to you and the elements of the offense I would say your mistaken, but you know good and well what it takes to constitute stalking in Florida so you are being a Liar again. Under Florida law stalking has to be something done repeatedly, there are other requirements regarding intent but they don't matter since it is their first encounter.

To say that Zimmerman assaulted Martin or started the confrontation is just unsupported speculation on your part.

Orlando Sentinel quoted an eye witness statement which said a man had "witnessed a black male, wearing a dark colored 'hoodie' on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help." The witness said the black male was throwing punches "MMA [mixed martial arts] style." After hearing a "pop," he saw the black male "laid out on the grass."

Harvard law profession, Alan Dershowitz, claims that the probable cause affidavit may be perjurious if Special Prosecutor Angela Corey knowingly omitted facts favorable to Zimmerman's self defense claims.

Dale Gilbreath testified under oath that he did not know whether Zimmerman or Martin started the confrontation and that there is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim that he was walking back to his vehicle when Martin confronted him.

What you are spouting is nothing but pure billshit.

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If I had not previously pointed out the Florida stalking law to you and the elements of the offense I would say your mistaken, but you know good and well what it takes to constitute stalking in Florida so you are being a Liar again. Under Florida law stalking has to be something done repeatedly, there are other requirements regarding intent but they don't matter since it is their first encounter.
To say that Zimmerman assaulted Martin or started the confrontation is just unsupported speculation on your part.
Orlando Sentinel quoted an eye witness statement which said a man had "witnessed a black male, wearing a dark colored 'hoodie' on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help." The witness said the black male was throwing punches "MMA [mixed martial arts] style." After hearing a "pop," he saw the black male "laid out on the grass."
Harvard law profession, Alan Dershowitz, claims that the probable cause affidavit may be perjurious if Special Prosecutor Angela Corey knowingly omitted facts favorable to Zimmerman's self defense claims.
Dale Gilbreath testified under oath that he did not know whether Zimmerman or Martin started the confrontation and that there is no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim that he was walking back to his vehicle when Martin confronted him.
What you are spouting is nothing but pure billshit.
Just watch the case, and learn.
Stalking with a gun is assault, there is nothing more to it. It is not "Florida stalking" it is armed assault. Challanging Martin with the gun is also assault.
Responding to assault is the heart of the crazy but in effect "Stand Your Ground" law.

Mr Martin is the victim of standing his ground against an armed killer.
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Just watch the case, and learn.
Stalking with a gun is assault, there is nothing more to it. It is not "Florida stalking" it is armed assault. Challanging Martin with the gun is also assault.
Responding to assault is the heart of the crazy but in effect "Stand Your Ground" law.
Mr Martin is the victim of standing his ground against an armed killer.
Stand your ground is to keep you from being a victim of the government or malicious prosecutions when you protect yourself not to protect you from another person, quit being a nitwit.

Following someone while armed is not an armed assault. Martin can not be in fear of a gun that he does not know is there. There is no evidence of what you are saying, none at all. Only your imagination that you have a logical point despite there being no support for it.

More lies from Mr Bill.

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Stand your ground is to keep you from being a victim of the government or malicious prosecutions when you protect yourself not to protect you from another person, quit being a nitwit.
Following someone while armed is not an armed assault. Martin can not be in fear of a gun that he does not know is there. There is no evidence of what you are saying, none at all. Only your imagination that you have a logical point despite there being no support for it.
More lies from Mr Bill.
the jury, and not Robert, will decide.
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Any law that gives any spousal abuser a gun should be examined. What part of "crime watch" did george not understand?
The part where HE was supposed to be on the side of the law, I guess.
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Stand your ground is to keep you from being a victim of the government or malicious prosecutions when you protect yourself not to protect you from another person, quit being a nitwit.
Following someone while armed is not an armed assault. Martin can not be in fear of a gun that he does not know is there. There is no evidence of what you are saying, none at all. Only your imagination that you have a logical point despite there being no support for it.
More lies from Mr Bill.
Balls. Martin was walking through the neighborhood, minding his own business. Zimmerman followed him in a car, got out, stalked him, confronted him. Where is his right to do that? Why should Martin not believe HE was about to be a victim? Why shouldn't he have had a right to self-defense? How do we KNOW Martin didn't know that Zimmerman had a gun until he shot him?

Lies? You know them well.

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