UK soldier dies from Iraq wounds

a lovely young man met him a few times he really look forward to going in the army always got a gr8 smiley face my heart goes out to ur family and friends u were a well loved guy very courageous to fight for ur country rest in peace sharon& family

Always in my thoughts, forever in my heart. Love Mum. X x X

Droog wrote:

He had it coming.
The patriotic Iraqis don't much like having their country illegally occupied or being murdered, beaten up and abused by Wysoczan and his thuggish mates.
His death was pointless, except as a small token of apology for his immoral life.

Ignorant prick.

The Iraqi's cheered the fall of Saddam, and turned out in droves to vote.

The people causing the trouble now are your terrorist mates from Iran.

what a knob you are kermit the ball less
obviously no brain and you are not in the real world maybe you should go to iraq and stay there you are not worthy of this life

Kermit wrote:

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Ignorant prick.
The Iraqi's cheered the fall of Saddam, and turned out in droves to vote.
The people causing the trouble now are your terrorist mates from Iran.

The majority of the insurgents happen to be Shia Iraqis, most of whom follow a cleric named Muqtada Al Sadar.

Anyway, the invasion of Iraq had f**k all to do with simply removing a dictator. Do you honestly believe Bush and Blair gave a f**k about Saddam killing his people? They wanted oil, and the establishment of a puppet governemnt in the region who will play ball with western nations and their master Israel.

British troops should be defending the British mainland, and NOTHING else. As a British nationalist, i don't wish to hear about another one of our soldiers who has fallen in battle for the likes of international corporations such as Halliburton and co. Those who have already died, have done so in vein!

I wish Iraqis all the best in establishing a stable government and peace in their country. It will be a long hard task with or without us. One problem is that the Coalition are seen as part of the problem by many, as well as being part of the solution. It seems to me that Mr Bush did not help when he called this a 'defining moment'. Bush has a talent for saying exactly the wrong thing, but his position is difficult as any supportive comments he makes, cause al-Maliki look like his tool to many in the region.

If people want to know what insurgents and special groups are, I suggest imagining a family member as a construction worker on a project like the Habitha Dam, trying to restore power and improve the dilapidated electrical infrastructure. 18 were murdered and families are terrorised for trying to rebuild Iraq and support their families. I am for the mass of the Iraqi public, who wanted Saddam gone, but have had to pay too high a price to do it. Whatever the reasons for intervention, any reasonable detached person can see that this soldier would have wanted to help Iraq responsibly and was not just killing Iraqis, like the special groups and insurgents. He may have been against the intervention himself for all we know. He was like most Iraqis or people anywhere, just trying to do his best.

Many of the special groups do see themselves as freedom fighters, but from what I have read they are not. They are the ignorant, the sectarian and the criminal. It is more complicated than that because of the distrust and sectarianism left in the wake of Saddam's terror and oppression. For instance, it seems many Sunnis formed CLCs not out of support for the Coalition, but in fear of a Shiite dominated Iraqi government. Concerned Local Citizens and consensus groups seem under-reported in our media. They seem to be the common people and the constructive people in Iraq. The violence gets disproportionate copy.

Too many on Topix do not genuinely care about the Iraqis. They seem more interested in shouting some political stance that they favour. Look at the Iraqi and Baghdad threads. Many people take entrenched views instead of objective and detached ones. The Iraqis wanted Saddam gone, but too many have had to pay too high a price. We should be trying to learn the lessons at this stage not criticising a soldier for serving his country.

RWRevolutionary is incorrect as usual. If Bush and Blair are anything, they are exactly what they appear to be: good, Christian men. It is easy to criticise them, and no doubt there are excellent grounds. To say it is ‘all about oil’ is the utmost ignorance surrounding Iraq. Would they have invaded a country that does not have oil? Why not invade Zimbabwe where they might have expected to be more welcome? Look at the permanent bases in Iraq and the oil deals with western countries. See? Even I can convince you it is all about oil, if that is what you want to believe. The fact is, there are lots of reasons. I recommend reading Bob Woodward’s books, Mr Rick’s ‘Fiasco’ and ‘The War We Could Not Win’. Then read-up on the Right wing Jewish-Christian influence. Then what the Neocons actually said and who they were - and what they say now. Then comment.