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Jan 10, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

U.K. offers Scotland independence vote

Full story: CBC News

British Prime Minister David Cameron said Britain would allow Scotland to vote on the matter of independence but urged the country to make its intentions known "sooner rather than later." Britain's government confirmed Tuesday it would happily offer Scotland the powers it needs to sever centuries-old ties to England.

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harold

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About time. Scots cost too much in benefits and NHS costs.
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About time: England has been pocketing the North Sea oil revenue for decades when they rightly should have gone to Scotland!

Scotland would be a rich country now!
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here we go again. The "me" syndrome, just like a group of children fighting over a toy.

Any assets are British. For the common good. The country as a whole benefits, not just one particular piece.

Greed is the name of the game. Power also intrudes. Ordinary people attempting to get into the big picture. Just examine the past records of the wanna be in power independent Scotland people. No great shakes there.
They are attemting to lead , by the nose, the Scots people down the road to Narnia, ie fairy tale country.
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humberman99 wrote:
Any assets are British. For the common good. The country as a whole benefits, not just one particular piece.
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Well, if you are against Scotland independence, of course you would say that!

But one thinks differently if one is sympathetic to Scotland.

Had Scotland received its fair share from the North Sea Oil, instead of the money going to Westminster, Scotland could be as developed and rich as Norway.
Visiting Norway is an eye-opener. Here is a country who benefited from the North Sea oil, outside the EU, that never wasted its revenue in silly wars or pies in the sky, but has developed its infrastructure, boosted its economy and acquired one of the highest standards of living in the world.

Compared to that, Scotland is like a poor relative, just living from hand-outs, but robbed by the British government of its legitimate wealth.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

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Mr. Salmon the Scottish prime minister (or whatever he is) has just been on the BBC news. He doesn't want a vote yet because all the polls show he'll lose.
It appears the majority of Scots don't want their independence.
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ronan wrote:
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Well, if you are against Scotland independence, of course you would say that!
But one thinks differently if one is sympathetic to Scotland.
Had Scotland received its fair share from the North Sea Oil, instead of the money going to Westminster, Scotland could be as developed and rich as Norway.
Visiting Norway is an eye-opener. Here is a country who benefited from the North Sea oil, outside the EU, that never wasted its revenue in silly wars or pies in the sky, but has developed its infrastructure, boosted its economy and acquired one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Compared to that, Scotland is like a poor relative, just living from hand-outs, but robbed by the British government of its legitimate wealth.
Nonsense. Scotland has been in deficit since '88 even taking oil into account. No where near what Norway has. Not even close.
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ronan wrote:
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Well, if you are against Scotland independence, of course you would say that!
But one thinks differently if one is sympathetic to Scotland.
Had Scotland received its fair share from the North Sea Oil, instead of the money going to Westminster, Scotland could be as developed and rich as Norway.
Visiting Norway is an eye-opener. Here is a country who benefited from the North Sea oil, outside the EU, that never wasted its revenue in silly wars or pies in the sky, but has developed its infrastructure, boosted its economy and acquired one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Compared to that, Scotland is like a poor relative, just living from hand-outs, but robbed by the British government of its legitimate wealth.
There really is no comparison with Scotland to Norway. Norway has ample gas, oil, and fishes their own waters. They use wave power to such an extent that they do not need their gas.

That is not to say that Scotland could use the same wave power technology but to date they have not bothered because they have not the wit, better to lay the blame on Essex Man. These would be "leaders" of a future independent Scotland are really jumped up inflated nohopers who are in a final throw of the dice to inflate their deflated egos.

Peruse their CVs and find the truth. Ignore the CVs and hand over to the next generation a diabolical shambles.

They put the same sex marriage laws at the top of the list. If that is not a pointer then what is.

None so blind as those who do not want to see.
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Nonsense. Scotland has been in deficit since '88 even taking oil into account. No where near what Norway has. Not even close.
Where is the link to your figures? They sound wrong to me.

In fact around 1988, unionist politicians were telling Scots that it would be dangerous for Scotland to become independant because, and wait for it .... "we would have too much money". As dumb as it sounds that is actually what we were being told. I am not joking or making that up.

Now where are those figures of yours? hmm?
Limme

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doubly posted, how annoying.
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humberman99 wrote:
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There really is no comparison with Scotland to Norway. Norway has ample gas, oil, and fishes their own waters. They use wave power to such an extent that they do not need their gas.
That is not to say that Scotland could use the same wave power technology but to date they have not bothered because they have not the wit, better to lay the blame on Essex Man. These would be "leaders" of a future independent Scotland are really jumped up inflated nohopers who are in a final throw of the dice to inflate their deflated egos.
Peruse their CVs and find the truth. Ignore the CVs and hand over to the next generation a diabolical shambles.
They put the same sex marriage laws at the top of the list. If that is not a pointer then what is.
None so blind as those who do not want to see.
Scotland is in fact ahead of the world in wave power and intends to have at least 60% of its energy needs generated by renewable energy by 2030.

http://scotland.wwf.org.uk/what_we_do/press_c...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotla...

As for oil and gas, they play a large part in the Scottish economy. Scotland also catches 60% of the UK's fish.

Perhaps the last line in your post could easily apply to you?
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ronan wrote:
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Well, if you are against Scotland independence, of course you would say that!
But one thinks differently if one is sympathetic to Scotland.
Had Scotland received its fair share from the North Sea Oil, instead of the money going to Westminster, Scotland could be as developed and rich as Norway.
Visiting Norway is an eye-opener. Here is a country who benefited from the North Sea oil, outside the EU, that never wasted its revenue in silly wars or pies in the sky, but has developed its infrastructure, boosted its economy and acquired one of the highest standards of living in the world.
Compared to that, Scotland is like a poor relative, just living from hand-outs, but robbed by the British government of its legitimate wealth.
Scotland is very heavily subsidised by the UK government, in fact the most heavily subsidised in Europe. The scots get over £2000 per capita per annum, and has the highest number of government jobs as well. This is how the oil money gets back to them. Norway only has a small population . Scotland is PART of the UK. Norway has around the highset taxes in Europe as well. It is a fact that the South East of England subsidises Scotland, the North, Wales and NI. And I live in Wales, and we all know it here. Salmond is deluded by romantic and silly imaginary versions of Scottish greatness. Now just try learning some facts for once.
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harold wrote:
About time. Scots cost too much in benefits and NHS costs.
Keep telling yourself that.

In the real world we subsidise your sorry english asses.

We created Britain but now it just isn't worth carrying on with.
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humberman99 wrote:
here we go again. The "me" syndrome, just like a group of children fighting over a toy.
Any assets are British. For the common good. The country as a whole benefits, not just one particular piece.
Greed is the name of the game. Power also intrudes. Ordinary people attempting to get into the big picture. Just examine the past records of the wanna be in power independent Scotland people. No great shakes there.
They are attemting to lead , by the nose, the Scots people down the road to Narnia, ie fairy tale country.
You do realise only Scots get to vote in the referendum?

Irish unionist scum don't get a say.
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humberman99 wrote:
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There really is no comparison with Scotland to Norway. Norway has ample gas, oil, and fishes their own waters. They use wave power to such an extent that they do not need their gas.
That is not to say that Scotland could use the same wave power technology but to date they have not bothered because they have not the wit, better to lay the blame on Essex Man. These would be "leaders" of a future independent Scotland are really jumped up inflated nohopers who are in a final throw of the dice to inflate their deflated egos.
Peruse their CVs and find the truth. Ignore the CVs and hand over to the next generation a diabolical shambles.
They put the same sex marriage laws at the top of the list. If that is not a pointer then what is.
None so blind as those who do not want to see.
Psst.

When you call Scottish people 'they' it makes your bullshit easier to detect.

Still pretending to be Scottish you scumbag wannabe?
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Limme wrote:
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Scotland is in fact ahead of the world in wave power and intends to have at least 60% of its energy needs generated by renewable energy by 2030.
http://scotland.wwf.org.uk/what_we_do/press_c...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotla...
As for oil and gas, they play a large part in the Scottish economy. Scotland also catches 60% of the UK's fish.
Perhaps the last line in your post could easily apply to you?
No sense in trying to educate hamberman.

He's a UDA terrorist scumbag who has no interest other than furthering his terrorist ideals.
I can read

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More Donkey Drivel wrote:
<quoted text>Scotland is very heavily subsidised by the UK government, in fact the most heavily subsidised in Europe. The scots get over £2000 per capita per annum, and has the highest number of government jobs as well. This is how the oil money gets back to them. Norway only has a small population . Scotland is PART of the UK. Norway has around the highset taxes in Europe as well. It is a fact that the South East of England subsidises Scotland, the North, Wales and NI. And I live in Wales, and we all know it here. Salmond is deluded by romantic and silly imaginary versions of Scottish greatness. Now just try learning some facts for once.
Psst. If you contradict yourself, you sound like a muppet.

We're subsidised and that's how the oil money gets back to us?

You didn't really think that one through, did you?

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The idea of Scottish independence is sure to put the Northern Irish Unionists in a bit of a pickle, most of them are descended from Scottish colonialists who where given confiscated Native Irish land by the British government. But enough of the past.....

Should Scotland have the courage to vote for independence, the idea of looking across the Irish sea from eastern Ulster and seeing an independent Scottish Republic, and not the UK, that is what they have such a problem with. The fact the very country they orginally came from and still associate so much with (Scotland) has left the UK will be sure to cause a bit of an identity crisis.

Scottish independence if achieved, will speed up the process of Northern Ireland leaving the UK and joining with the Republic of Ireland......

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It will also cause a lot more competition between the Republic of Ireland and independent Scotland.

In the short term I would imagine Scotland lowering their corporate tax rate to the same level as the Irish one. With some work on their education system Scotland could be an attractive proposition for Multinational Companies. Also as more oil and gas is discovered off the west coast of Ireland in the long term Ireland and Scotland will also be in competition in those markets....
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Wells should do the same.
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Dubbadub wrote:
Scottish independence if achieved, will speed up the process of Northern Ireland leaving the UK and joining with the Republic of Ireland......
You really want that to be true. don't you?

NI will get a referendum in a few years and will vote to leave the UK and join the republic.

Then the republic will decide they can't afford NI and ask the UK to keep control of NI until the republic develops enough to be able to afford to reunite.

If NI actually votes for independance they'll be redcieving food packages from unicef within weeks.

No doubt dubadub will blame Britain for the famine.

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