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Sidetracks - Neutron accelerator sets record

The $1.4 billion Spallation Neutron Source facility, though still powering up, has established a new mark as the world's most powerful accelerator-based source of neutrons for scientific research.

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GetREAL

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Aug 31, 2007
 
Interesting. Anyone understand how you accelerate a Neutron (which is what a "Neutron Accelerator" should do, right?) Neutrons have no electric charge.

I'm not being sarcastic or facetious -- just realy want to know how it's done.
El Doran

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Aug 31, 2007
 
GetREAL wrote:
Interesting. Anyone understand how you accelerate a Neutron (which is what a "Neutron Accelerator" should do, right?) Neutrons have no electric charge.
I'm not being sarcastic or facetious -- just realy want to know how it's done.
You accelerate atoms of Deuterium or Tritium (A Proton, A Neutron or two, and an Electron) and then while it is speedin along strip off the electron to one side and the Proton to the other. The Neutrons continues on their merry way to the target. I don't know if that's correct but seems plausible.

What I don't get is how that makes a "brighter light" An electron microscope works by creating an image of secondary electron emissions being displaced from the target by a bombardment of an electron beam. Since electrons are smaller and less massive than a neutron how would using neutrons increase resolution? Though electron microscopy doesn't really "smash" the atoms of the target, maybe that's what the neutron technique does do. Collides with the target and either the neutron is absorbed, or "smashes" the atom into smaller bits, or ricochets elsewhere. The former two occurences would release alpha, beta and gamma radiations which I guess would somehow indicate the geometry of the target atoms. Worth researching if I wasn't trying to just keep from being foreclosed!
Sheen

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Aug 31, 2007
 
Jimmy why you always wasting time on stupid inventions when we could be playin video games?
Carl

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Aug 31, 2007
 
What's a Splatation Neutron Source Facility for anyways?
Want to come over and have a tea party?
Cindy

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Aug 31, 2007
 
Wow Nerdtron, maybe you can use your neutron accelerator to accelerate yourself, TO THE MOON!
GetREAL

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Aug 31, 2007
 
I guess that would work-- ionize the deuterium, accelerate it using the electromagnetic force then, somehow, supply enough energy to fission away the unwanted protons. Wow.

As to the resolution, I understand that quantum mechanically. The higher the energy of a particle, the lower its DeBroglie wavelength. Smaller wavelength ==> increased resolution.
El Doran wrote:
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You accelerate atoms of Deuterium or Tritium (A Proton, A Neutron or two, and an Electron) and then while it is speedin along strip off the electron to one side and the Proton to the other. The Neutrons continues on their merry way to the target. I don't know if that's correct but seems plausible.
What I don't get is how that makes a "brighter light" An electron microscope works by creating an image of secondary electron emissions being displaced from the target by a bombardment of an electron beam. Since electrons are smaller and less massive than a neutron how would using neutrons increase resolution? Though electron microscopy doesn't really "smash" the atoms of the target, maybe that's what the neutron technique does do. Collides with the target and either the neutron is absorbed, or "smashes" the atom into smaller bits, or ricochets elsewhere. The former two occurences would release alpha, beta and gamma radiations which I guess would somehow indicate the geometry of the target atoms. Worth researching if I wasn't trying to just keep from being foreclosed!
El Doran

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Aug 31, 2007
 
You make a good point the donor atoms would need to be ionized before acceleration is possible. I wonder what the secret is to overcoming the "Strong Force" between the Proton and Neutrons?

Another potential technique that occurs to me is that since Oak Ridge is a gaseous diffusion concentrator,(I don't think they have a racetrack there?) a nano level fission of gaseous trans-uranics, by nature some fraction always being in an ionic state, thereby focused and accelerated with a nodal point where multiple lasers converge similar to the Shiva reactor. This would accelerate a large number of neutrons as part of the gas upon a chosen vector. A pulse from the lasers would then cause a microscale fission event whereby a large volume of cascading neutrons would continue along that vector. The target behind a thin foil of some sort which would stop alpha and beta particles and other fission neucleotides but still allow neutrons to pass. Sounds far fetched I know but a good mental exercise. But who knowsm, I was Einstein in my immediate previous lifetime! LOLOL
GetREAL

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Sep 3, 2007
 
OK. Did a little research. A Spallation neutron accelerator works by accelerating protons and colliding them into a target containing mercury --this kicks out neutrons. The collisions are (obviously) inelastic so you lose a lot of energy, unfortunately. Then, El Doran, your idea about the Deuterium *works*; you can accelerate a proton/neutron pair, then collide them into a metal target to strip away the proton.

This is fascinating stuff. Should have gone into high-energy physics.
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