Abortion war hits Britain

veteran wrote:

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Huge topic for debate and each has it's good/bad points and an individual will have a favourite. From experience as an all rounder an AK, I have never used a US weapon in anger only on a range same goes for the SA80.
Being glib if I was up sh1t creek I would have wanted a Cobra to come help me, if it was now, an Apache.

Giggs wrote:

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I would rather be at home with a cup of tea and some digestives.
But if I were in a war even if I was well trained I would not want to use something that could potentially fk up if I dropped it in something.
I dont know why the best military minds have not clocked onto that one?
I imagine its like using a machine at work that you constantly must take apart and fix?
Even if I could operate such a thing...I wouldn't want to.
Russian Dragunov and the AK Im told can be relied upon.
Ive never been to war but Ive done some exercises in Yorkshire with the Army and they had us diving round in the mud and through streams. I immagine fighting for real is just as if not wayyyy more dirty especially if your marching for days.

PATRIOT wrote:

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Then ANZAC must have been all Aussie.
We were never exchanged for anything, never got to exchange for anything or I would have exchanged my best buddy for one of those Canadian nurses. There were temporary assignments to deal with from time to time, but the early stages of the Vietnam War were really screwed up.
The statement you made about the learning ability of the South Vietnamese is pretty accurate. I remember an ARVN officer telling me that he was having real problems with training ARVN troops because they had just lost the will to fight. In the 40s they fought the Japanese mostly on their own-Ho Chi made his name fighting the Japs. Then they fought with the French, then each other-then us.

veteran wrote:

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Grants is a whisky, Guinness is a black beer(irish stuff)gives me the sh1ts.
I still keep laughing at the RAAF crew, probably trying to find the way home.

Giggs wrote:

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When I was younger I spent a fun week staying over at an Army base doing basic training type things.....school sent me.
We got to learn about the SA80 and we could play with them and see how to assemble them.... It didnt fill me with much confidence knowing that even if you are well train with using it it could jam under stress and you have to take it apart to remove little pieces of sand.
To me AR, SA80 and such assault weapons they use in NATO armies are not my cup of tea. They probably shoot better and have a strategic purpose but It must be frustrating if your having to cross rivers, mud, desert, snow and jungle. They just seem way too over engineered....coming from someone with no military experience.
They showed us FN MAG too which I was quite impressed with. And browning pistols. SLR Is something my grandad used.
I went to Africa a few years ago and I managed to bribe a soldier to let me mess around with his AK......They are so simple even I could understand how it worked.
Asside from shotguns Ive never really held a gun. I know very little but I do know AKs look bad ass and I wouldnt argue with one.
"One of the bulldozers uncovered the decomposing body of an enemy soldier, complete with AK47. I happened to be standing right there, looking down into the hole and pulled the AK out of the bog. "Watch this, guys," I said, "and I'll show you how a real infantry weapon works." I pulled the bolt back and fired 30 rounds - the AK could have been cleaned that day rather than buried in glug for a year or so. That was the kind of weapon our soldiers needed, not the confidence-sapping M-16"
David Hackworth, US Army battallion commander

veteran wrote:

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If I remember my history correctly the ANZAC's)which stands for Australian New Zealand Army Corps)only fought as combined a force during the first world war. I do know ANZAC day is still celebrated, if my facts are wrong I apologise in advance.
You're spot on about the will of the ARVN, as a nation they had had enough most of those I met just wanted to go home and be left in peace.

PATRIOT wrote:

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The Brits had one of the best, most efficient weapons for close range use, in the Sten Gun. Very few moving parts. Very compact and light weight. If I were on the move and had to rely on close contact weapons, I would carry an AK47, my 16 guage J C Stevens pump shotgun, and a .44 cal. handgun. The AK would have standard ammo. The 16 guage would have first two rounds being .45 mag slugs and the last two .00 mag. buckshot, with the shot preferably strung together with stainless steel fishing leader. Anyone get past that I can kiss my ass bye-bye.

veteran wrote:

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Point man would have the 12 bore pump, each cartridge was a home load, BB shot topped with a lump of lead, if you got bounced the point guy would just defoliate the general are until the rest got their sh1t together.
On a lighter vein, something I learnt in Malaya, never throw sticks at the monkeys.

PATRIOT wrote:

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Okay, now that I am off the floor from laughing. What happens when you throw sticks at Malaya monkies, and were you decorated for the outcome? I learned to leave a Mongoose alone the hard way.

veteran wrote:

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First visit to the jungle warfare school soon learnt that one of the problems is monkeys. While trying to be "covert" the monkeys are following you around chattering and giving alarm calls, which to anyone in the know tells them there is something/someone about that shouldn't be there.
The Ghurka instructor specifically tells us "do not throw sticks etc at the monkeys to frighten them away" but neglects to tell us why.
Dawn the following day we are on the move trying to establish contact with the enemy, monkeys are above us chattering and screaming, "tail end charlie" starts throwing sticks at them hoping to scare them off.
Clever animals monkeys they learn to imitate very quickly, but instead of throwing sticks back at you they crap on their hands and guess who they throw it at?
If a lump hits you on the head or back of the neck instinct makes you look up to see where it is coming from, if you are unlucky the next lump hits you in the face.
I can tell you from bitter experience monkey sh1t really stinks and tastes vile.

veteran wrote:

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After posting the above I read your previous properly, "Decorated"
LOL You knew dintcha LOL

mikev483 wrote:

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a MAN gets her pregnant? you must have seriously bad relationships.(whatever sex you are)it takes 2 ppl,mother &father
who said she impregnates herself?
consent to pregnancy,WTF?
look,its like you ,simple, if you don,t want to get pregnant have protected sex or no sex,anyone too stupid to understand that should not be having children.
KILLING unborn babies because you are too stupid to understand how they come about should not be an option.

mikev483 wrote:

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were did i claim a gamete was a person?
like Obama said its above my pay grade to decide when life begins,how are you qualified to do so? gamete,zygote or foetus who's to say.
what i am sure of is that killing and dismembering an unborn baby in the womb,then vacuuming it out is wrong(but if your mother had took this option,id make an exception)
if you bothered to read posts properly,you would have noticed i advocated protected sex to avoid unwanted pregnancies,making it obvious to all that i don't equate masturbation with genocide.you chose to ignore that fact, as it would spoil your argument,an ignored fact is still a fact.
you really do need to stop using the PC ZOMBIE playbook ,ignoring facts,lying,accusing of homophobia,racism,islamophobia or any other
ism or bia.

bluestreak resurgent wrote:

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I think many of the males on the pc side of the aisle all secretly wish that they were women.

PATRIOT wrote:

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You need to worry about your own immigration problems. I hear Islamist terrorist take a chunk out of you butts almost on a monthly basis.
And when the Euro and European economy fail, you'll be speaking German and French in five years. Do you know how to say "may I kiss your German arse Herr Gruber?"
Now you may not be anti-American, then again you may be. And whether you are anti-dickhead, or not, is no sweat off my bum.
You are probably one of those Brits who is uglier than the back end of a cow, and you have the bad breath and teeth to go with it. I can garantee you won't last fifty years. You'll choke to death on your pet roach before then. And take a f---ing bathe. We can smell you all the way across the pond. And believe me. A Scot knows what a Brit smells like.

lifes a beach wrote:

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Most abortions occur long before the fetus is capable of feeling pain and the majority don't require "dismembering" just suction. Get your facts straight at least, you are sensationalizing it based on very few instances.

PATRIOT wrote:

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There's only one other country in the world whose people are more obnoxious and arrogant than these jackwads from England. It's members of the jackwads' families that immigrated to Norway. Even the Italians won't go near Norway.

PATRIOT wrote:

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Well, so much for your trying to make use believe you have something other that a semian intellect.(Been all over the big bad world). The Dal Riata region of Ireland was the connection to the Dal Riata region of Scotland. These Irish kings of Dal Riata, who were in Ireland as far back as 1600 BCE, are the hereditary Scotish kings of Dal Riata, Scotland. I am a descendent of the Mac Alpins. I am also a descendent of Leofric, Earl of Mercia and Lady Godgifu of Coventry.(As learned as you are, and without Google, you ought to be able to tell me who they are).
I am also a direct descendent of Ansfred I Rollosson, The Dane of Normandie, you know, the Viking trash that settled Normandie, the area of France that spawned William the Conqueror of Normandie. You know, the first Norman King of England after the Saxons were defeated in 1066 CE.
Actually, to make the long story short, I am probably more European than you are. In any case, I learned to kick English ass from my ancestors. The Danes, Scots, Irish, French, Dutch and Germans have all taken you Brits down a notch or two throughout history. Hell the mighty Brit Empire couldn't even beat a bunch of colonial backwoodsmen, hillbilly, redneck, tobbaco farmers. Shame, shame.

lifes a beach wrote:

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Ancestry doesn't make you European, a passport does...try again.