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Feb 12, 2012
 
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well il try so that its easier 4 u lot 2 understand/.
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The limit to freedom of speech used to be inciting people to commit violence and threats. Also telling lies about people who are still alive. Now it seems to include 'offending' certain religious groups which is not good because we used to be able to criticise nearly everything freely and without fear. Its one of the things that made western societies superior to islamic societies. Apparently a guy from Saudi is probably going to get his head chopped off because of some mild criticism of mohammed on twitter. What kind of a man was he anyway if he would approve of people being decapitaied just because he was criticised by them?
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Thats such a dumb fing 2 say! if datz ur way of finking u shud go bak 2 ur country 1st! sikhs have a right to wear their turbans, we abide by the law unlike muslims! also we contributed in the ww2, we fought 4 dis country no1 told us 2 take our turbans off or go bak den so we have just as much right as an english person wud!
as long as you dont condone Pakies Im happy for you to be hear.

If you side with them against us....... then I dont like it.

Ive lost some quite close friends because I speak the trooth about having to live around lots of pakies.

Also I understand it must be sht to look like a paki and take abuse for it....thats wrong.

Im not racist.......I just hate pakies.
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To giggs why do you hate Muslim
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To giggs why do you hate Muslim
I dont like the Quran.

Ive read bits good and bad....... I genraly dont like alot of what ive read.

I dont hate muslims so much has having to share a culture with them.

Pakies hate us. Im sick of getting on the bus or going to the shop and having to deal with people talking in code language about me.

Im sick of having to pay extra on my insurance because of one group of people who are commiting most of these crimes.

Im sick of having to deal with people who targate me and mine when we are walking home at night.

Pakies are like sandpeople (tuskan raiders).

"they startle easily but they will soon be back.....and in greater numbers."

I dont need people living besides me if most of them hate me.

Racism doesnt exist if you stick to your own.

However I have never experienced racism on the same level of what Pakies think of us English.

The majority (minority exists) of Pakies dont understand that alot of their culture is not welcome hear.

Relating back to the Quoran alot of Paki mentality is very self serving and doesnt help our community.

eg. rapeing underage white girls

or throwing acid in womens faces

or forcing women to marry their cousins back home

Genraly the worst part is the muslim attitude to people like me who think islam is plain sht and never want to convert.

The tragic irony is that they preach this in Christendom.

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I dont like the Quran.
Ive read bits good and bad....... I genraly dont like alot of what ive read.
I dont hate muslims so much has having to share a culture with them.
Pakies hate us. Im sick of getting on the bus or going to the shop and having to deal with people talking in code language about me.
Im sick of having to pay extra on my insurance because of one group of people who are commiting most of these crimes.
Im sick of having to deal with people who targate me and mine when we are walking home at night.
Pakies are like sandpeople (tuskan raiders).
"they startle easily but they will soon be back.....and in greater numbers."
I dont need people living besides me if most of them hate me.
Racism doesnt exist if you stick to your own.
However I have never experienced racism on the same level of what Pakies think of us English.
The majority (minority exists) of Pakies dont understand that alot of their culture is not welcome hear.
Relating back to the Quoran alot of Paki mentality is very self serving and doesnt help our community.
eg. rapeing underage white girls
or throwing acid in womens faces
or forcing women to marry their cousins back home
Genraly the worst part is the muslim attitude to people like me who think islam is plain sht and never want to convert.
The tragic irony is that they preach this in Christendom.
I understand your venom towards pakis because the sikhs had the exact venom 300 years ago when our spiritual leader at the time had to introduce a different way of living and a different way of wearing clothes including the wearing of a turban( although that,s always been there, principally it's about keeping your hair). All this was done to stop people secretly trying to convert to islam in the face of rape, pillage and execution. By having a distinct idenity, no-one could hide and the islamist mughuls could be confronted head on. That is where the idea of the sikh soldier came from and where the wearing of swords was compulsory.Now it is symbolic but a reminder of the sacrifices of the dead in order for people to practise whatever they wanted.
Sikhs don't go around in turbans and swords for the fun of it, and i understand that in a mostly secular country like the uk, such sights can become overwhelming, it's just a natural way of behaving. Put it this way, if there was a sudden influx of western people in Pakistan (not that that is going to happen) or India in the traditionally conservative areas, and all they saw was the erection of churches and scantily clothed women, i think you'd see riots! But we have a history together and it makes you think why the British chose India when Africa was closer, to underpin their empire. Whatever the legacies of colonial rule, the British were only doing what all other empires before it had done. I'm sure their intentions were good and they greatly contributed to the structural parts of modern India (law and order, transport, defence)because they saw potential in the people. And also they realised that a country with a billion people was not going to stay in the dumps forever, and that they should build a stake in that future prosperity. So if you like they invested there, however, when you become 'owners of something' you don't think twice about taking something!
i'm a Sikh, but i'm cleanshaven, and no-one out of my family has ever been baptised. I don't think it's ever going to happen now that most of us are assimilated into the host culture. But what we still retain is pride in our beginnings and who we are, and i wish you native Brits had the same inclinations, because then you wouldn't feel threatened all the time. You have got a long and proud history compared to past empires; why would you want to hide and be shameful of that?
What you guys put up with, i mean the recent influx of all kinds of people into your country and creating basically shitholes all over the place, like Somaliland all over the place. wouldnt in India
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To Giggs you read a small bit so does that make you an expert on the quran there are people who spend their whole life studying religious text from their own faith and they are still Norway near to understanding their own faith but you understand another religion to your own by reading a bit .

Now don't forget Ian Hunter was white who murder two kids Fred & Roise West who raped and murder loads of girl they were white also and I probably find more

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as long as you dont condone Pakies Im happy for you to be hear.
If you side with them against us....... then I dont like it.
Ive lost some quite close friends because I speak the trooth about having to live around lots of pakies.
Also I understand it must be sht to look like a paki and take abuse for it....thats wrong.
Im not racist.......I just hate pakies.
well I dont personally hate pakiz or any community, but sikhs are NOT pakiz, they are veryy different and they have a lot of history with each other! and there are some pakiz that hate sikhs and vice versa, because of history but some have put it behind them now.
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I dont like the Quran.
Ive read bits good and bad....... I genraly dont like alot of what ive read.
I dont hate muslims so much has having to share a culture with them.
Pakies hate us. Im sick of getting on the bus or going to the shop and having to deal with people talking in code language about me.
Im sick of having to pay extra on my insurance because of one group of people who are commiting most of these crimes.
Im sick of having to deal with people who targate me and mine when we are walking home at night.
Pakies are like sandpeople (tuskan raiders).
"they startle easily but they will soon be back.....and in greater numbers."
I dont need people living besides me if most of them hate me.
Racism doesnt exist if you stick to your own.
However I have never experienced racism on the same level of what Pakies think of us English.
The majority (minority exists) of Pakies dont understand that alot of their culture is not welcome hear.
Relating back to the Quoran alot of Paki mentality is very self serving and doesnt help our community.
eg. rapeing underage white girls
or throwing acid in womens faces
or forcing women to marry their cousins back home
Genraly the worst part is the muslim attitude to people like me who think islam is plain sht and never want to convert.
The tragic irony is that they preach this in Christendom.
Yhh I agree with you there are alot of things in the qoran that I don't agree with 2. I've seen that alot of muslims I know dont think for themselves or have their own views they just agree with everything the qoran says even though deep down they know its wrong or doesn't make sense. I'm Sikh but I've also got my own views and opinions, there are some things in the Guru Granth Sahib I don't understand or find it hard 2 believe and theres nothing wrong with that.

also im 100% with u about muslim attitude towards people who do not believe in islam at all, they call us infidels. no offence 2 the muslims but the reason they have that attitude towards us is because in the qoran it says 'u should fight or slay the heads of the infidels!' it also encourages them 2 convert people by persuasion, manipulation or force so when they do have this bad attitude towards us for not being muslim they are only following there religion. but still i cant understand why any religion would encourage people to kill other people, all these things are against sikhism.
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sikhs are really cool

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sikhs are really cool
Yhh i know! Thankzz loool
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Im not sikh, but i will say that they are nice people my best friend is a sikh and she is lovely! Im a hindu but im not a traditional hindu if that makes sense!, and hindus are not exactly great ppl, vut sikhs are warm and very welcoming and ive met some really nice ones, shunned by my own but accepted by another!
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sikh indian pakistani bangoli all get called pakis by racists. racist do not give a monkeys if your indian tamil or bangoli to them we are all pakis.

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Im not sikh, but i will say that they are nice people my best friend is a sikh and she is lovely! Im a hindu but im not a traditional hindu if that makes sense!, and hindus are not exactly great ppl, vut sikhs are warm and very welcoming and ive met some really nice ones, shunned by my own but accepted by another!
Thats gud 2 hear! fanks 4 all the compliments every1 lool
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To Giggs you read a small bit so does that make you an expert on the quran there are people who spend their whole life studying religious text from their own faith and they are still Norway near to understanding their own faith but you understand another religion to your own by reading a bit .
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say:'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
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Now don't forget Ian Hunter was white who murder two kids Fred & Roise West who raped and murder loads of girl they were white also and I probably find more
If Ian Huntly was born in saudi arabia a few hundred years ago he could probably write his own book and create his own religion.

Why is it that Paki peados target vulnerable white children?

Im not saying any child should be raped.

....but pakies exclusively rape our children.

Then again I serpose they rape their own relatives when they force them into marriage.
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sikh indian pakistani bangoli all get called pakis by racists. racist do not give a monkeys if your indian tamil or bangoli to them we are all pakis.
Cant say I know much about Indians, Tamils or Bengolies.... I doubt they would want to live near me because my area is full of dodgey PAKIES!
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Some one sent me a email about muslims,things we don't see in papers and on tv.. I'm very shocked,and these people said they are peaceful lol! Holding up cards,and one muslim woman ,not showing her face the coward! On her card it says "Islam Be Prepared Holocaust on the way, Well! If i knew this woman,i would beat the s..hit out if it. Show your face muslim woman,lets see who you are,you say take over england,when my family died in the war,hell with you,because i will get you there in "Hell" We brits and non-brits will take you on.
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Worst terrorist act in Canada was carried out by Sikh extremists. Was the worst aviation terrorist act ever at the time.
1985 Air India bombing...329 killed. Bomb was planted by Sikhs in Vancouver and blew up near Ireland.
In 2006, if the muslim Toronto18 carried out their act before getting caught, that would have been many times worse.
Gotta wonder about these people eh
I would highly recommend you do more research on that.. Indian government had a huge part in hijacking the plane.
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Feb 16, 2012
 
Giggs lets not forget that every race has something to be ashamed of and those that do evil acts will be punished by god .

While I worked as a volunteer at a hospital for those that have lose their way there were some females who were put into the mental part of the hospital just because they got pregnant outside of marriage or were having affairs. The hospital I worked at had took people in until 20 years ago.

Their are people who have their kids taken away from them because people thought they are to young to have kids.

No one race is perfect not saying I condone what some parts of any race do but unless we go beyond the issue of race and faith and treat everyone equally then these disgusting and also the evil acts will be competed we are all the same I don't mean just being humans but we are all in the same boat we all have family members and also all life is valuable .

Sorry but here I go aagain with the same poem

ON A MOUNTAIN TOP I SAW A MONSTER,
AS IT CAME DOWN THE MOUNTAIN IT WAS A MAN,
AS THE MAN CAME UP TO ME I SAW IT WAS MY BROTHER,

Not ment to sound to liberal but to bring peace we need to unite as one planet with many races and understand one anothers faith. We should be using this forum to explain about us and to spread love and not hate

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