Sinn Fein wants referendum on Irish unification

Too much too soon. Referendum should be held in 2022 at the earliest.

Isn't there a referendum of sorts on this every time a general election is held?

When the IMF are gone a few years and the country is back on a sound economic footing then we can start talking about United Ireland's and all the rest.

Give it 10 years at least.

they had one before, the Unionists won. Give it up, paddies!

between public inquiries and referendum the pol pots are just itching to start their new stalinist, sectarian,evil and malfunctioning sewer pit of a country.

Most Irish people now see what they are and what they have been, evil bastards.

Dubbadub wrote:

When the IMF are gone a few years and the country is back on a sound economic footing then we can start talking about United Ireland's and all the rest.
Give it 10 years at least.

You either want NI or you don't. You either regard it as part of your country or you don't.

You can't just say: "You keep it for now because we're a bit skint at the moment".

DudTenners wrote:

they had one before, the Unionists won. Give it up, paddies!

Yes in 1973, when Richard Nixon was US President, US soldiers where still in Vietnam and the World Trade Centre first opened.

Boycotted by the Nationalists too....

see, you have have a vote and then sulk and refuse to vote - because you KNOW you will lose it! It isn't "your" country, it is the country of the Loyalists. Put up with it or go South.

Mr Tripod wrote:

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You either want NI or you don't. You either regard it as part of your country or you don't.
You can't just say: "You keep it for now because we're a bit skint at the moment".

It's not about whether I want NI or not. It's about what the people of NI want. Of course I regard it as part of my country, however the people of NI are the only ones who get to vote in any referendum on their future.

The Native Irish (Nationalist/Catholics etc) call them what you like, will soon outnumber the Ulster-Scot(Unionist/Protestan ts etc) so they will have a big say in the future of NI. Me personally, I think it's better to give it 10 more years, let wounds heal further, let the appropriate reconciliation continue, let the old guard retire from all sides up there. Then the time will be right.....

DudTenners wrote:

see, you have have a vote and then sulk and refuse to vote - because you KNOW you will lose it! It isn't "your" country, it is the country of the Loyalists. Put up with it or go South.

You really have no idea do you.

It is not the country of the Loyalists, and there is nothing you lot can do to ever make it that way again. The Protestants will soon be outnumbered and will then depend on the Catholics to keep them in the UK. Peter Robinson the first minister of NI has said this himself.

Most of the Loyalists/Protestants in NI are descended from Scottish colonial planters, when Scotland leaves the UK, I sense a bit of an identity crisis coming on.....

I suggest a referendum in 2022, to coincide with the 100 year centenary of the 26 counties leaving the UK.....

the only reason the pol pots want a one Ireland is so that they may start another campaign of terror against ALL Irish people.
They hate and detest all polital hues and want to impose a stalinist state. The British Army negated that, so they now have to start on this tack.
Their past deeds are well known to the Ulstermen.There will be no compromise there.

just study their faces.

humberman99 wrote:

the only reason the pol pots want a one Ireland is so that they may start another campaign of terror against ALL Irish people.
They hate and detest all polital hues and want to impose a stalinist state. The British Army negated that, so they now have to start on this tack.
Their past deeds are well known to the Ulstermen.There will be no compromise there.

But a United Ireland where the Ulstermen are a central part of the country might be appealing.

1.5 million of them will have a much larger say on an island of 6 million, than in the UK where there are 60 million people. You know?

Should be done the right way though, 2016 is too near in my opinion.

Will there be free pies?
I do love my pies,meat and potatoe's my favourite!

Bobby Sands wrote:

Will there be free pies?
I do love my pies,meat and potatoe's my favourite!

tomato or hp?

Bobby Sands wrote:

Will there be free pies?
I do love my pies,meat and potatoe's my favourite!

Pies?

Thats a bit northern England init?

Still though all should be catered for, extra shipments for meat pies and gravy should be provided for our northern English friends.

There will be a ''decade of celebrations'' up there from both sides.

This year the Unionists will celbrate the Solemn League and Covenant. 1916 the Nationalists will celebrate the 1916 Rising.

The usual,''in your face'' sort of thing, which I don't feel is appropriate.

humberman99 wrote:

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tomato or hp?

It's got to be HP

Dubbadub wrote:

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....The Native Irish (Nationalist/Catholics etc) call them what you like, will soon outnumber the Ulster-Scot(Unionist/Protestan ts etc) so they will have a big say in the future of NI. Me personally, I think it's better to give it 10 more years, let wounds heal further, let the appropriate reconciliation continue, let the old guard retire from all sides up there. Then the time will be right.....

I think it will be a bad move even if 51% or 55% do vote to unite with Eire, but I agree it should be delayed. If I supported either option,(which I don't, particularly) I would still advise waiting until the moment seemed 'natural', not simply await a tipping point in the statistics.

It is not just a matter of letting wounds heal. It is about disestablishing the two communities and establishing a single one. Only then will NI be able to function like a modern society and be beneficial to themselves and whichever poltical unit with which they choose to unite.

(I am still absorbing your comments on other thread Dubbadub. Thanks)

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EdSed wrote:

<quoted text>I think it will be a bad move even if 51% or 55% do vote to unite with Eire, but I agree it should be delayed. If I supported either option,(which I don't, particularly) I would still advise waiting until the moment seemed 'natural', not simply await a tipping point in the statistics.
It is not just a matter of letting wounds heal. It is about disestablishing the two communities and establishing a single one. Only then will NI be able to function like a modern society and be beneficial to themselves and whichever poltical unit with which they choose to unite.
(I am still absorbing your comments on other thread Dubbadub. Thanks)
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Yeah true, I would see the need for a large majority to vote in favour of unification like 65%+ otherwise it will be useless, I say give it 10 years at least. Agree on all you've said in this comment.

It's all about making a united Ireland viable for the people in NI, this is not the case currently and will not be the case for a few more years, even then it is upto the people of NI to decide. I think though that when they start tapping into the oil and gas reserves off the west coast of Ireland, and when the IMF have gone a few years, it will be more viable for the people of NI to be unified with the Republic. Better distribution of the wealth etc. Plus the say they will have here would be a lot greater than the say they ever will have in UK affairs. Their choice though, and 10-20 years is needed in my opinion.....