Yulia Tymoshenko, under fire and fired up

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Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text> Perhaps,,,, But one must still think ahead for the next move {Politics is much like chess in that matter} small actions now that seem to be not important have a way of getting larger as time goes by. Yulia if smart will use this attack to garner sympathy from Ukraine’s citizens and indeed capitalize on there anger and frustration with Victor and his strings going to the Kremlin. His disregard of the Ukrainian Constitution does not go unnoticed by the people.

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Haller wrote:

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Yulia is not a next leader of the national movement. Really she was not "national idea" leader before.
We need other leaders definitely strong ones on "national idea", not on looking compromises with russins from eastern regions, how did yulia and previous victor

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Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text> Yulia and Victor,,, It seems we are between the pig and the pin with the two of them. There has to be a middle some were,,, A person that can see Ukraine as a country and just not a opportunity for profit. I will say however that I think that Yulia still did a better job then Victor has with every thing but Gazprom,,, Its one thing to be friends with Russia,,, its quite another to crawl in bed with them,,, Russia should recognize Ukraine as Ukraine and not as “Little Russia”

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Haller wrote:

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Up to this time, Russia is not ready recognize Ukraine as independant country. More, people from eastern part also dont consider themselves as "ukrainians".
Yuli tried to find compromize but her time of is in a past. Other leaders, more strong, are in extreme request.

Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text>A strong leader I will agree,,, but not a brutal one,,, Ukraine has to many of them in there past and quite honestly have suffered enough.

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Haller wrote:

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What means "brutal"? In political life, impossible to be strong and not brutal.
Kind and soft person is not able to destruct janukowic's regime.

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Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text> It is certainly a sign of a strong leader to be at times a bit “brutal” but the sign of a truly great leader to know and understand that it is not necessary 100% of the time. I have noticed that Ukrainians and Russians both equate good leadership quality’s with brutality, I don’t understand why you do this as a culture but the facts and indeed history show this to be not necessarily so but still I hear all the time people talking about Stalin,,, The other day I was in a taxi going to Yalta,, the Taxi driver said that while Stalin was a monster he defeated the Fascists,,, I pointed that Stalin did not defeat the fascists but the brave solders who fought for there loved ones and there home land,,. You are no longer peasants to be ruled over by a feudal lord,,, You are a free people who are perfectly able to govern you’re self’s with out the use of a whip. Its sad that some in Ukraine and Russia have had the boot on there neck for so long that they think it is normal,,,

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Haller wrote:

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I hate Stalin. Also as Lenin and other bolszevics. But this is not a great matter now.
Ukraine now is not a free country where people governs. Believe me. Look at this "parlament" at least , where deputies sell themselves.
So, I am looking for hard or brutal leader, who is ready to start revolution, like in arabic countries.

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Heller wrote:

I prefer arabs, not russians.
I dont want find way a rest of my life.
I want normal gov, not "Criminal President" and others criminals.
I prefer egyptian way. We did it 6- years before and we are able to repeat the Riot.

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Amicus wrote:

I think Heller means the Arab way of getting rid of corrupt leaders is interesting .... to say the least.It is effective though.

Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text> Effective,,,,, Perhaps but so was genocide in Hitler’s Germany, I am not 100% convinced that Government over throw through riots in the streets is a effective tool under all circumstances, Egypt seems like its going the way of Radical Islam along with some of its neighbors, I don’t believe for a minute that this was not fully orchestrated by the Muslim Brotherhood taking full advantage of the hatred of Mubarak by his own people. Obama should have made a break with Mubarak, and to say that they {the Obama administration} did not see this coming is being disingenuous to the extreme, I understand that you are not American and that the States politics are not your own but my big concern in all of this is Obama’s and his administrations stance on the overthrow and there insistence that they are a beguine origination {The Brotherhood} to me is a very telling indication of his stance on Islamic influence in America it self. I am very familiar with this origination {I worked with a follower when I was in the Mideast 10 years ago} and know that it certainly is not a peaceful origination and is hell bent on the destruction of Israel and the implantation of an Islamic Caliphate all through the Mideast and beyond. I feel that Obama is a follower of Islam and that he is indeed anti American and a socialist, I also believe that he is not a US citizen and that we {Americans} are as a people being betrayed and sold out by him and his administration,,, I do not consider my self a conspiracy theorist but the fact that he shut down all access to his birth records is a very provocative move. The showing of only one of his documents is not enough to even buy land in Hawaii,, why should we as Americans believe that he deserves our highest office with the same paper? I for one can not wait for him to be voted out. At this point he makes Jimmy Carter look good.

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<quoted text>Genocide is a tad extreme. I don't think anyone is suggesting that! I think Russians and Ukrainians and even Belarusians all will eventually march and rally on their legislatures, perhaps during election periods or campaigns and twitter up themselves some real democracies for a change of scenery. Ukraine will do it first I think. The old communist trained lizards have to die off first though. May take ten years, but nothing is able to be hidden nowadays.

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Sticking your neck out wrote:

<quoted text> Are you a Muslim?