Thousands Protest Roe V. Wade Decision

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Thousands of abortion opponents marched from the National Mall to the Supreme Court on Tuesday in their annual remembrance of the court's Roe v. Wade decision.
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Ink wrote:
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I don't how I can be more clear. Concentrate. Some pro life folks want RvW upheld so that a woman can get an abortion if her life is in danger or for other very restricted reasons. They think restricting abortion after viability is a step in the right direction. I don't think your strong card is knowing what pro life people think. Better to continue to tell us how a uterus trumps a fetus.
It's not that any pro-lifer wants "RvW upheld". Only to allow abortion if she'll die without one. Some want it for cases of rape or incest, IE: "certain circumstances". But RvW allows for abortion on demand for any reason, and pro-lifers most definitely don't want "RvW" upheld.

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"I don't how I can be more clear. Concentrate. Some pro life folks want RvW upheld so that a woman can get an abortion if her life is in danger or for other very restricted reasons."
You don't know why, because the polls don't specify why. Given that RvW does not place such a restriction, your conclusion is baseless.
"They think restricting abortion after viability is a step in the right direction."
Again, we're talking about the RvW decision. The poll didn't specify anything about restrictions, and still two-thirds have declared that they want it upheld/approve of it. That's as is. RvW doesn't have anything to do with the restrictions.
"I don't think your strong card is knowing what pro life people think."
Your first three words were a complete sentence, Witless. I can obviously read the polls better than you can.
"Better to continue to tell us how a uterus trumps a fetus."
Since I've never said any such thing, or implied it, your point is moot. Obviously another instance of you mistaking me for someone else.
"You don't know why, because the polls don't specify why. Given that RvW does not place such a restriction, your conclusion is baseless."

Same can be said to you about your OPINION as to what the majority wants. It does NOT specify that it's wanting "RvW upheld" as you claimed and couldn't prove, liar. Don't state opinions as facts or you'll be proven a liar. What you claimed about the majority of people, including some pro-lifers wanting RvW upheld was only your opinion of what was wanted by the majority, which you claimed as fact, and it's not fact. You lied in claiming it as fact.
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That's not what those stats are about, liar. Pro-lifers do want to allow abortion under "certain circumstances" (mother will die without one), without wanting RvW upheld, as you claim. You're an idiot to try to make that particular claim about the stats.
PROVE your claim with a working link so people can see for themselves what those stats are about, and not just your unsubstantiated and ignorant opinion, based on your inability to read for comprehension, of what it's supposedly about.
She doesn't want to understand the reasons behind anything. She just wants to be comfortable in her narrow minded view.

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What do you mean it's not "wanting RvW to be upheld"? Just where do you think the exception to mother's life/health comes from anyway?
That exception equals "Most pro-lifers want to allow for a woman to have a right to abort if she'd die without one."
This is why I've been saying for years, all y'all are working against your own best interests. Being manipulated to hand over your civil rights to personal privacy and bodily autonomy. That you want to hand mine over as well is what's infuriating. And is why people repeat over and over "If you don't like abortion, even the exception for life/health, then don't have one." Nobody will force you but now with all the restrictions, they sure as hell can refuse you. And that's the world you're working towards. The one you want to leave behind for all of our daughters and granddaughters, nieces, cousins, friends, and their families.
Your editorial aside, you didn't prove your claim that the majority "wants RvW upheld".

RvW doesn't just allow for a woman to abort if she will die without one, but for abortions on demand for any reason, so no, the majority isn't talking about "wanting RvW upheld". Allowing so a woman doesn't die without one isn't about "RvW". It's about something altogether different.

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Let's try and concentrate on this one answer of your's.
The polls don't specify why. True.
I am saying that being on the pro life side, I have a better understanding of why people on that side would poll to uphold R V W than you do comming from the other side. Our reasons for upholding R V W would be very different than abortion rights people. The main logical reason not to overturn is because it would be impossible to effectively enforce an anti abortion law.
Ink, did you see the link and what's on it? Does it say wanting RvW upheld? I haven't seen any link from Bitner. Obviously if a pro-lifer wants a woman allowed an abortion if she'd die without one, THAT's the ONLY part they're wanting to uphold from RvW. I have to wonder about the wording of the question on Bitner's link.

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Science doesn't really say we are the last rung on the evolutionary ladder, just the most advanced. That is debatable.

Scientific laws, like the laws of evolution, either are inviolable or violable. We are not forced to live by evolutionary laws because evolution concerns adaptation to the environment; man is the only animal that can deliberately adapt its environment to them. Doing so, actually, affects the evolution of other species.
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<quoted text>This culture has declared man, in our present state, to be the last rung on the evolutionary ladder. That man is under no obligation to live by the laws of evolution under which every other species on earth is obliged to live.
We are woefully wrong about both.
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She doesn't want to understand the reasons behind anything. She just wants to be comfortable in her narrow minded view.
Of course not. The truth doesn't work for them, so they'll twist and lie to make their points.

No pro-lifer would want RvW "upheld". If the question asked, "Would you like RvW abolished and allow abortions only for certain life threatening circumstances...", what do you suppose the numbers would have been then? If the numbers were high, what would her argument be then?

The question obviously didn't include specifics, so desperate PC idiots like her will use it as some sort of verification of whatever they make up in their own mind.Not realizing it also leaves it open for PL to turn it around and do the same. Her so-called proof isn't proof of anything at all.

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The numbers prove you wrong.
Didn't your momma ever teach you that the most popular thing isn't always right?

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What link?
If it's what I think it is, that wasn't about wanting RvW upheld. Just about wanting to allow abortion under CERTAIN circumstances. We already had this discussion from you PC using this table, and it's you idiots who are too dumb to interpret it correctly.
The links in the previous post. I directly quoted just one of them in the post you just responded to. And yes, the question asked WAS about RvW being upheld. You just have to scroll until you find the poll. Yes, there were other posts in the first one, but the RvW was among them.

But thank you, for proving your dishonesty so well, LynneD.
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The main logical reason not to overturn is because it would be impossible to effectively enforce an anti abortion law.
You're so right!!! No one of these people arguing back and forth has presented a doable workable plan to implement terminations except in case of........ Anti-abortion laws would require a board in every town,county,and state to hear and review a request and the woman would have to open her life up to total strangers. On top of that there would have to be a appeals process. What,how, and where? What would be the boards qualifications? Would they be nominated or elected? What be the liability ramifications if a termination was denied and the woman died as she was warned? The only thing limiting abortions does is push women to back alleys,kitchen table procedures, or the do-it-yourself method. Then there's no paper trail,no proof,unless something goes wrong.

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<quoted text>What I 'want' doesn't matter - what I'm talking about is what 'worked' for 3 million freaking years.
We are consigning ourselves to extinction, and I think it will happen within the next 20 years. Can you even imagine what 12 BILLION people will look like? How about 24 BILLION by the year 2030? 48 Billion by 2035?
We gotta do something - outlawing abortion on demand, ain't it.
My sister-in-law think this year will be bad, especially food prices. So bad,she is frightened something will give,like chaos,among people all over the united states. I do hope she is wrong.

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Other species in fact do defend their food supplies and do their best to wipe out competing species. Ants alone can obliterate every living thing in their paths for their own benefit. Social insects or various kinds engage in warfare. Chimpanzees make our urban gangs look like sewing circles. The only real difference between us and our evolutionary brethren is that we can deliberately change our patterns of activity on the basis of choice instead of instinct.
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<quoted text>The six Billion (well, 7, maybe encroaching on 8 by now,) are those who insist on using totalitarian agriculture as an evolutionary strategy - that's most of the world, east, west, north, and south. Totalitarian agriculture is pursued by waging war against every competing species which we perceive as a threat to our food supply:
Bugs in the grain? DDT.
Coyotes on the ranch? Extermination.
Folks on the other side of one, politically? Genocide.
No other species has ever done this.
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Ink, did you see the link and what's on it? Does it say wanting RvW upheld? I haven't seen any link from Bitner. Obviously if a pro-lifer wants a woman allowed an abortion if she'd die without one, THAT's the ONLY part they're wanting to uphold from RvW. I have to wonder about the wording of the question on Bitner's link.
I didn't see it. Just going by what she said. I have also been trying to explain to her and it's not ever going to sink in, that a pro life woman might want RVW upheld to protect a woman from dying in the case of a pregnancy that could be fatal to her.

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That's not what those stats are about, liar. Pro-lifers do want to allow abortion under "certain circumstances" (mother will die without one), without wanting RvW upheld, as you claim. You're an idiot to try to make that particular claim about the stats.
PROVE your claim with a working link so people can see for themselves what those stats are about, and not just your unsubstantiated and ignorant opinion, based on your inability to read for comprehension, of what it's supposedly about.
I just clicked on all three links, and they worked just fine. And they proved my point. I TOLD you that you would have to scroll down. Instead, you just looked at the top of the page, didn't you?

All YOU'VE proven is that you can't be honest, LynneD. But we know that already.
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My sister-in-law think this year will be bad, especially food prices. So bad,she is frightened something will give,like chaos,among people all over the united states. I do hope she is wrong.
Me too.

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Good one person's opinion makes you a winner. It doesn't take much to make your day.
Ah, playing deliberately obtuse again, I see.

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Good one person's opinion makes you a winner. It doesn't take much to make your day.
She's pretty desperate when it comes to trying to claim she made any point that stands.

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More people are using birth control and refusing to have kids than before, and many more are choosing to have small families. China has found its own solution. And there is no dearth of disease and war.
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<quoted text>What I 'want' doesn't matter - what I'm talking about is what 'worked' for 3 million freaking years.
We are consigning ourselves to extinction, and I think it will happen within the next 20 years. Can you even imagine what 12 BILLION people will look like? How about 24 BILLION by the year 2030? 48 Billion by 2035?
We gotta do something - outlawing abortion on demand, ain't it.

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lil Lily wrote:
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"You don't know why, because the polls don't specify why. Given that RvW does not place such a restriction, your conclusion is baseless."
Same can be said to you about your OPINION as to what the majority wants. It does NOT specify that it's wanting "RvW upheld" as you claimed and couldn't prove, liar. Don't state opinions as facts or you'll be proven a liar. What you claimed about the majority of people, including some pro-lifers wanting RvW upheld was only your opinion of what was wanted by the majority, which you claimed as fact, and it's not fact. You lied in claiming it as fact.
I'm talking pure numbers. Nearly two-thirds of the population said they want RvW upheld, and in another poll, approximately the same number said they approved of it.

My point was proved. Not that I expect you to be honest enough to admit it, LynneD.

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I didn't see it. Just going by what she said. I have also been trying to explain to her and it's not ever going to sink in, that a pro life woman might want RVW upheld to protect a woman from dying in the case of a pregnancy that could be fatal to her.
So she hasn't even provided the link of the stats she's making all her claims about? LOL. How predictable. Ink, little advice; don't ever just take the word of one of these fools. They all post lies. They all can't read for comprehension so what they claim is usually nothing like what they read, or used to prove a claim they made.

I understand what you're saying, but I doubt any pro-lifer would want "RvW" upheld, but likely abolished, and create something in its place to allow for the right to abortion under specified "certain circumstances".

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